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I thought it was a bit dull. I kept waiting for something to actually happen.
It also struck me as completely implausible. As if the Saviours could possibly anticipate their every move -- including which wood they'd hike through -- without the assistance of modern technology (as we know it). I just wanted to laugh. Plus they kept spelling things out for us. I think we can tell the Saviours have a lot of men and resources without every character telling us every time they came across another roadblock. Also, the last scene with Negan was laid on with a trowel. It was all a bit "ooh isn't he so evil and nasty?" I dunno, I just thought it was unintentionally funny rather than tense. Trevor from GTA V was good, though. |
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What if the first half of S7 is Negans story up to meeting Rick with the S7 midseason finale revealing whom got Lucilled ?
The audience will be watching every move now and unless they are prepared to hire the "Lucilled" actor to hang around during filming until Oct, I don't see how it won't be figured out. Both Norman and Steven are on Instagram which they use frequently to show what they're doing. They'd have to stop using that as well to protect the show. I think this cliffhanger will just motivate more people to figure out who it is. And this is assuming all employees/workers on the set won't be tempted to tell someone who it was? I myself was disappointed with Jeffrey Dean Morgan. Mainly his new body. He's lost 3 stone and now looks too thin to be menacing. I assumed (based on the comic drawing) that it would be somebody large and scary. I didn't find him scary at all and I really like him. Andrew Lincoln and Steven Yuen were very impressive though in that last scene. |
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I think it was Daryl. When they had that other Hilltop guy earlier in the episode and were making a show of him one of the guys said, we make a show of the guy who fired the first bullet.
Daryl fired the first bullet again Neagan's group. |
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If Negan was the ultimate bastard then it would be Maggie. As it would definitely hurt them the most. |
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I found the the episode really upsetting - I don't want any of the group to die such a horrible brutal death.
I do think that the writers will know who dies - they may have carried on with the scene to ensure continuity. I really really hope Eugenes OK - I've properly fallen in love with him lately Not sure why people have such a problem with the cliffhanger - they're nothing new! |
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He is leaving as well, so my guess is its Daryl
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I must have misheard it then. But I still have a feeling it's it's that person I mentioned.
Abraham was the most calm, stoic and biggest of them all. It would be no surprise that he took it like a champ. I rule out the women, based on their gender alone (which is stupid), and I am left with Glenn (hopefully it is him), Eugene (my absolute favourite) or Aaron.. Those were the weakest, who would surprise Negan if he took it like a champ. Of course, Rick looked the most terrified and shievering, but we all know he is safe. I am surpirised they made Rosita, Sasha and Michonne just sit there without even crying or shaking. That woild be normal behavior from young women in such a horror. |
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I can't believe we won't find out who died until the next season 😬
The last 20 minutes were intense, seeing Rick so scared made myself feel anxious. Morgan and Carol bits were interesting,wonder who the horse rider guys were? Anyways I'm kind of disapointed that it was a cliffhanger, feel a bit cheated. It was weird seeing Jeffrey Dean Morgan as the bad dude Neegan as I have been watching Extant on Sky One, where he plays one of the good guys!!! |
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Now I've watched it, I don't actually have an issue with the cliffhanger. I like how it was done, and I really liked the episode on the whole. It was good to see Morgan finally realise he can't be the good guy all the damn time. Also loved the seen when the group left and Gabriel was on watch. Although he was hardly in it, it felt like he'd really stepped up to the plate in that moment.
I thought the whole cast was great, especially that end scene. Jeffrey Dean Morgan was spot on as Negan. On The Talking Dead, they mentioned how they shot that end scene over two days, and they didn't use stand ins when they were filming JDM as Negan, like shows usually do. The real cast were there, totally in character off screen, for all of that time. I thought Andrew Lincoln in particular was excellent. As for who it could be, everything seems to be pointing to Abraham, who has been my guess since I knew they were going with this storyline from the comics. I would be shocked if it was any of Glen, Daryl, Michonne or Rosita, as they were hardly in the episode. It would hardly seem fair if they didn't get much of a "goodbye" episode, especially Glenn who I think has been treated shoddily all season. Even Denise got one, and this really felt like Abraham's. Either him or Eugene, who also seemed to get some kinda of closure in this episode. Aaron is an interesting option. I felt the scene where he told Rick he was coming even if Rick didn't want him to, and linked back to when the group captured Aaron, was there for a reason. Not a spoiler, but something I noticed...
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It has to be Eugene, its the only thing that could justify listening to him going on about being a survivor for three eps, and that cringe violin music when he went of as a decoy in the camper van. And (assuming someone on the show is still thinking some things through, and not making decisions based solely on ratings etc ) Negan would have probably interacted with him, and that would explain his last line: you took it like a champ/man... whatever.
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That episode was tense as f*ck !
Just so relentlessly bleak, one horrible thing after another. Having said that, was anyone else thinking 'FFS, Negan, stop grand-standing and just kill someone already ! Yes, you're a cartoon bad guy, you're top dog, we get it'.What's the deal with Negan's group anyway? I gather their MO is that when they come across another group, they usually kill one of them to show how bad-ass they are, then 'recruit' the rest (or presumably kill them if they refuse) to work for him, stealing, recruiting, killing and whatnot. Thing is, I can't believe that people who have - up to the point they met Negan's people - presumably been relatively sane and normal and killed only when they believed it necessary for their own survival (such as Rick's group) turn into sadistic torturers and killers if they weren't that way before. We've seen a few instances where it's been shown that people have apparently refused or not worked hard enough or whatever, and paid a horrible price, but look at how many there were (and have been) in Negan's group, all happily joining in the fun ! Are we meant to infer from it that the majority of people surviving in that world are sadistic killers, all too happy to join a larger group and do more killing, and that the 'good guys' left are few and far between? We've seen this before with Terminus, where previously good people suddenly become very violent and extreme in their methods when they experience brutality and I didn't buy it then either. Eugene or Abraham for me. |
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Disappointed they're going to make us wait until it's inevitably spoiled online once filming resumes.
I hope they go with the comic as surely if the death is to have a big impact it must also be like that in the comics so would be a big deviation of story to change character. If they're going to listen to the fans and have yet to decide then it will be a cop out as the big characters will only end up being killed off if the actors themselves decide to leave the show. Negan saying "as my mother says pick the one that's best, and, that, is, you" surely means he picked either a strong character (Rick, Daryl, Abraham) or one that would have the biggest psychological impact on the group (Rick, Carl or Maggie). Logically it would be Rick as we know Negan likes to have power and it would be like his attempt to get the hilltop boss's head delivered. I'm expecting Aaron or some minor character just because the producers will pussy out and not want to upset the fans with their favourites. Just stick to the story like Game of Thrones, it's more powerful when they do what's best for the story rather than the fans. Otherwise they may as well have the fans write the story, like they tried with Snakes on a Plane. |
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I think tonight was the first time we've seen Rick look really scared. Even more so than waiting to be terminated at Terminus.
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What if the first half of S7 is Negans story up to meeting Rick with the S7 midseason finale revealing whom got Lucilled ?
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What's the deal with Negan's group anyway? I gather their MO is that when they come across another group, they usually kill one of them to show how bad-ass they are, then 'recruit' the rest (or presumably kill them if they refuse) to work for him, stealing, recruiting, killing and whatnot. Thing is, I can't believe that people who have - up to the point they met Negan's people - presumably been relatively sane and normal and killed only when they believed it necessary for their own survival (such as Rick's group) turn into sadistic torturers and killers if they weren't that way before. We've seen a few instances where it's been shown that people have apparently refused or not worked hard enough or whatever, and paid a horrible price, but look at how many there were (and have been) in Negan's group, all happily joining in the fun ! Are we meant to infer from it that the majority of people surviving in that world are sadistic killers, all too happy to join a larger group and do more killing, and that the 'good guys' left are few and far between? We've seen this before with Terminus, where previously good people suddenly become very violent and extreme in their methods when they experience brutality and I didn't buy it then either. |
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[quote=Versailles;82034889]Abraham was the most calm, stoic and biggest of them all.
It would be no surprise that he took it like a champ. I rule out the women, based on their gender alone (which is stupid), and I am left with Glenn (hopefully it is him), Eugene (my absolute favourite) or Aaron.. Those were the weakest, who would surprise Negan if he took it like a champ. Of course, Rick looked the most terrified and shievering, but we all know he is safe. I am surpirised they made Rosita, Sasha and Michonne just sit there without even crying or shaking. That woild be normal behavior from young women in such a horror.[/QUOTE] I don't think Michonne would cry but I did see Sasha and Rosita with tears |
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I'm going to be bold and say it was Rick if not Glenn.
If Rick goes they may try and take the show in another direction next season? Slightly off topic but does anybody watch Fear the walking dead? I think it's poor in comparison to the regular Walking dead series. Seems to be filmed in a different way too almost like motion sickness? |
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What's the deal with Negan's group anyway? I gather their MO is that when they come across another group, they usually kill one of them to show how bad-ass they are, then 'recruit' the rest (or presumably kill them if they refuse) to work for him, stealing, recruiting, killing and whatnot. .
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Absolutely classic - what an uncanny resemblance!!! |
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Negan should have taken out one in the episode then lined up for a second if they want a cliffhanger. That would have been a fitting and shocking end to the season, best of both approaches.
Besides it seems like Negan is a pussy if he lets all but one live after they've done so much to his gang. That's his usual MO when he meets a new group, take out one of them, before they even do him any wrong. This just feels like a 'oh they'll let the main ones live as always, bet it's one of Aaron, Eugene, Abraham, Rosita, Sasha'. I was hoping for it to be Carl. His 'I won't let anything happen like it did with Denise' speech just before the whistling started was so cringy. He's barely a teenage boy! |
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I'm still confused as to how there are so many of them Saviours, but they've never been to Alexandria before? They have Hilltop under their control. The Alexandrians were there long before Rick and Co arrived. Its like hundreds of people just suddenly appeared from nowhere?
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well in an interview, the producers have stated, they are going to show it and they feel, probably push boundaries in showing the actual kill
I found it, disturbing,sickening and incredbly tense, throughout, the sense of dread prior to, THAT SCENE was palatable I know they keep saying, they are not going with the comics, and in the past, have deviated plenty but I think, they MAY be using the art of misdirection either Glenn or, Daryl/Abraham I really think, they could go there with Daryl but this audio on you tube, if, it has not already been posted is freaky https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsjNz9FBsXY |
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Absolutely classic - what an uncanny resemblance!!! |
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well in an interview, the producers have stated, they are going to show it and they feel, probably push boundaries in showing the actual kill
I found it, disturbing,sickening and incredbly tense, throughout, the sense of dread prior to, THAT SCENE was palatable I know they keep saying, they are not going with the comics, and in the past, have deviated plenty but I think, they MAY be using the art of misdirection |
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No one cares about the fecking comics.
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Negan saying "as my mother says pick the one that's best, and, that, is, you" surely means he picked either a strong character (Rick, Daryl, Abraham) or one that would have the biggest psychological impact on the group (Rick, Carl or Maggie).
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We are making assumptions at this point on Negan and his group based on the little we have seen them.
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However, Rick and his group have also had various moments that could fall into this category. Remember how Rick was all for staging a coup in Alexandria in season 5. Plus, they staged an attack on The Survivors on the promise of trade from the Hilltop group. Yes, Negan has much vast numbers, but there must be some sort of social structure for him to be the leader.
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Seeing Jeffrey Dean Morgan in both The Good Wife and TWD, he does love to smirk while he acts!
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Absolutely classic - what an uncanny resemblance!!!
Just so relentlessly bleak, one horrible thing after another. Having said that, was anyone else thinking 'FFS, Negan, stop grand-standing and just kill someone already ! Yes, you're a cartoon bad guy, you're top dog, we get it'.