It had genuinely never occurred to me that people could be so childish and pathetic as to deliberately spoil someone else's enjoyment of a TV show by giving away what's going to happen. I guess I underestimated the power of the internet to turn people into dicks.

What they're doing is taking the death scenes from the comics but changing who gets killed, but in the end it will be the same people who get killed in the series as in the comics, just with the manner of their deaths swapped around (except for Andrea who is still alive in the comics).

not me it doesn't ... theres a thread on here somewhere where a guy is moaning about spoilers on the main page (fiar enough ) but then in the thread itself passes on the spoiler (a death of a character in a show) ..people be dicks

as for the comic book readers some are a smug bunch come into the thread and play the "speculation card" and are somehow always dead right about what happens (terminus being a prime example)

but what can you do as long as they play the "speculation" card and pre phrase whatever they say with "I don't read the comics BUT ....." us non comic book readers are gonna get spoiled

Just watched a really good video on YouTube on my PS4 but now can't find it on my phone to link it but it's the only one that made the most sense to me.

The person pointed out that the end scene wasn't the only first person view in the episode. There was a couple of others in the view of either Rosita, Glenn, Daryl and Michonne when they were in the back of the truck. When they're all together at the end and the open the van it's stil in someone's first person view.



The above isn't a spoiler but I know how sensitive people can be

Yes, that was my original point - people coming on and saying 'oooh I think this will happen next, it's just my speculation, not a spoiler', when actually it's so obviously come from what happens next in the comic! I don't understand why the comic book readers do it!

Yep, I already posted this theory and I like it cos it would mean my favourite character would be safe!

So on my post where I put "I don't read the comics BUT" you're basically saying I'm lying and that i do read the comics? i thought this was a thread where people could come and discuss what they had seen and what they thought was going to happen. I don't read the comics, I have no interest in the comics BUT I do like it when we are kept fishing and people you think are good aren't and people you think are bad might not necessarily be so. I haven't read all the previous posts so maybe there are people who have come in and given major spoilers away but as the show is not following the comics completely I would just take anything said with a pinch of salt.

I would say that would definitely have the Factor if you are correct.

LOL nice deflection there. Posters aren't innocently predicting the correct outcome they are pretending to whilst actually posting a comic book spoiler. It's so blatantly happening.


It wasn't you that initiated the speculation about Dwight though. You just responded from what I can see.

Was convinced vigilante turned pacifist Eastman was a nod to John Eastman, the vigilante in the 80's cult film The Exterminator. Except I just re-watched the movie and his name is Eastland. How could I have got the name wrong all these years? I’ll console myself with the idea that the script writer of the Eastman episode got it wrong too.

I haven't commented for a while so just going to belatedly give my thoughts on the finale after digesting it and reading various theories.

First - the episode itself. It mostly felt like contrived setups, running around in the dark, and padding out the episode with them putting everyone's head on the chopping block before the inevitable final scene which everybody knows is coming...which the writers know they know...and so we have this playing with the audience throughout. The final scene in the woods was pretty well done and chilling with all the whistling but I didn't quite buy how broken they all seemed. I think they should have had a more difficult journey to that point and more deaths (I always want more deaths!) rather than just being broken through helplessness.

As to who it is.....no idea really. I watched various concocted theories on youtube. Half a dozen sound semi-plausible. Half the stuff they rely on could just as easily be production inconsistencies.

Seems plausible

Abraham - based on the scene it would make some sense, assuming Negan is in anyway in control of who gets picked (which is iffy because one time he might have 11 people in front of him and another he might have 25, or 5, or 43). But assuming he was skipping around the order a bit and he wanted to make an example to the group then it would make sense to batter the biggest person there and the one who seemed the least afraid. He also seems the most likely to take a blow and keep moving - if hard-headedness is anything like being massive.

Glenn - Dead, not dead, dead. Seems the ironic kind of thing they might do. Plus - which is as valid a reason as any. Plus the POV shots which seemed to indicate him, Rosita, or Michonne.

Aaron - Couple of reasons. They mentioned him feeling like he owed Maggie. Could be suggesting he's going to make a sacrifice. Also is not as central to storyline and they do seem to have laid off killing major characters recently. And I had a go at matching up the scene with the rhyme and what was shown before the order got messed up, with the syllables used, and got Aaron.

Eugene - Had a few scenes early in the episode doing the usual redshirt thing of sharing knowledge, which often signals a soon-approaching death, so maybe. Also has seemed a bit peripheral recently.

Daryl - I would have thought it more likely him before the bit with him getting shot and stuff. I think him vs Dwight will be next season. Still possible.

Unlikely

Rick - It would be a ballsy move. There were rumours last autumn, that were quickly quashed, that the actor wanted to return home. If GOT can kill their main character then I guess another show could try it. The scene did suggest it wouldn't be Rick or Carl though since the "cut it out and feed it to his father" line did seem to be spoken by Negan as he stood in front of the eventual victim.

Carl - Again, it would be unexpected. I doubt they would though. Also - see above.

Rosita - Having watched a few theories it seems as though people are saying that Negan's comic book counterpart wouldn't have picked a woman or child as his victim, but, as far as I'm concerned, the two (comic and tv show) are different entities, so I don't think the tv show Negan has exhibited any protective feelings towards women yet. She was also in the van so the POV could be hers. I don't think it will be though. She had no real dialogue or last scene you usually get put in for dramatic effect, foreshadowing her exiting.

Michonne - Also fits the van POV shots but I don't think they'd willingly take the character out of the storyline at this point unless the actress wanted out.

Maggie - I doubt it really. Wouldn't have got up after the first blow in the physical condition she was in at the time.

Sasha - Nothing to suggest her that I can remember.

So I'm sort of between Abraham, Glenn and Aaron over who likely gets the bat. Rick, Carl, Maggie or Michonne would shock me the most. I guess we'll know before the new season airs with leaks from shooting or even people putting two and two together seeing what new roles actors are signing up for.

No I wasn't accusing you.. I'm accusing the poster that started the Dwight helps Daryl out theory ..never in a million years anyone who hasn't read the comic would think that in the slightest. There is nothing pointing to it (not like when the wolf guy helped denise) so if said Morgan and carol come to the rescue that would make some sense but one of Negan's people who killed an Alexandrian ? helping ,,,that's only coming from one place

SOME comic book readers just like to look smart when their "speculation" turns out to be true and they can claim they called it ..its completely a dick move to do other people and if I had my way anyone who reveals spoilers deliberately should have to face Negan and Lucille

If people do that then I don't think it's in the spirit you'd expect for the good of the thread.

I don't mind when somebody says that they think something might happen and puts it in spoilers and openly admits that they think that because they've read the comic, but that's very different from somebody being disingenuous about it and pretending to predict and speculate as if they know as little as most other people and as if they don't know what's in the comic.

I've read a bit about what happened in the comic after this point. But I simply haven't said a thing. One main reason being is that I think the show could deviate from the comic anyway in terms of what happens to a character. Because although events might be similar they often use different characters from the comic to carry those events.
But for another reason I'd be dishonest to myself, let alone anybody, else if I pretended to be innocently speculating about something which I know is in the comics.

i agree if someone puts speculation out there they have gleaned from reading the comic admits it and put it in tags im fine with that

but people saying I haven't read the book but "I think mrs higglesbottom will die from heatstroke when she rushes out to save little timmy from the dessert king" is just purely wrong

You've just totally spoiled that book for me

I re-watched the finale today and have to say I was choked when it came to the bit with Abraham and Eugene. The music that was playing was so sad and beautiful I have a feeling it may be one of them who's going. I hope not

For my preference it can be anyone except Rick, Michonne, Daryl,Glenn, Maggie, Abraham and Eugene.

I wish they hadn't left it there though- it's not fair.

Well after 1 month i have finally watched every epsiode without spoilers etc and i'm glad this was recommended for me to watch.

Personally i think its either glenn or abraham that gets killed. Glenn as he tried to get to maggie while in line or abraham as he practically stood up to negen.

Somehow i think its more about te living threat now than the dead, guess we can expect a full on war between rick/negen.

Looking back at parts of series 5 and 6 there were scenes where Michonne overruled Rick and literally took charge of the group as the leader, either assuming direct control, or heavily questioning Rick's decision making with the support of the group behind her.

Just saying. Something to take into consideration in relation to the Series 6 finale.

Personally I doubt it will be Aaron that got Lucilled as for shock value it would have to be a member of the Ricktatorship

I'm strongly behind Abraham now.

Especially when the comic has only a very limited relationship to the show. I'm only up to #40 of the comic, but there are already huge differences - which I won't spell out because they would be spoilers for people who haven't yet read the comic, of course.

well the admins have been alerted to my post, I rambled ahead in my enthusiasm, thinking no one here, would really care about the source material, the show, frequently deviates from, as it may not be a part of the show

I saw it, as speculative at the time, ( will they won't they go there) rather than a spoiler, given the nature of their reputation for deviation and various statements, they have made

apologies all,

I think the producers of The Walking Dead should be forced to watch Line Of Duty on a continuous loop until they finally realise that's how they should do 'tense and shocking'.

Alot of people don't read the comics and as you say they have deliberately deviated. I pick up on somethings from the comics but don't investigate. I just read reactions from some of the cast on reading the script and finding out it was a cliffhanger. It is going to be rough for them when they have filmed the scene as it will be at the start of the season. On after buzz a panellist said that the cast and crew may be on embargo but the editing is done out of house and he had been given episodes before. Hence he didn't believe the secret could be kept.

Looks like I've been posting in the wrong thread for season 6, i was in the season 5 thread typical me! Looking for some indication that of which channel will be picking up season 6 o freesat/terra tv if any or if there is any possible release date for the DVD, missing the show, bought Fear of the walking dead the other week, Blu-ray from asda £14.99p just to get a fix! not bad for £2.50 an episode but expext the story line to pick up better for season 2.