So no takers then, Ok if one of the channels do take up season six could u guys shout it from the roof tops! or at least until I can hear it!

Did you try YouTube? Keep an eye on Spike too

werent so annoyed about posting spoilers earlier in this thread tho

She at least spoiler tags them, the people making predictions based on comic knowledge are doing it in the open.

You should get a Now tv box-(entertainment package) you can get them for about 15-20 quid for 3 months viewing and then 6.99 a month thereafter. Although there are only the last 8 eps of season 6 on there atm but when the show is running they have every ep of every season.

we should have a roll call for all those who said they wouldnt be watching again after certain episodes and have carried on watching. I guarantee all still are

you have the internet, just search watch walking dead online, theres loads of sites that will provide you with what your after

Spike UK is currently showing season 5. Season 5 ends tomorrow night.

Spike UK and Channel 5 have confirmed they won't be picking up season 6.

I had no idea they started filming the new season at the start of the month. Apparantly they are on episode 3 now. It just shows you how much they get done long before the first episode even airs on TV.

I was looking through the awards for this show and was surprised that Maggie doesn't appear to have had any nominations.

I think that she's brilliant.

It's best to look on ebay for NOW TV vouchers afterwards, I got 3 months entertainment for £8 last week.

Finally caught up with the finale. I knew what happened but still found it

But she's not in any way a "cringing wimp" now. The Carol of season 1 and 2 could only react by screaming, hiding and hoping someone would help her when walkers hit. She had no skills and no belief in herself. She was just living in fear. That's not who she is now. When confronted with danger she fights it face on with incredible smarts and brutality.

The simple fact is she isn't afraid to kill, she simply doesn't want to. Whereas before she thought she was incapable, now she knows she is incredibly capable, but she also knows what it is costing her emotionally.

Every death - though she knows is utterly a nessecity - is weighing on her shoulders, and she can't take any more guilt. She knows she can kill, she knows she will, she also knows she can't live with doing that anymore.

IMO Morgan certainly played a huge part in her breakdown. Here she is already struggling incredibly with the guilt of the deaths she's caused, and he starts preaching to her that all life is precious and there is always another choice than murder. He basically becomes her every worst fear and doubt about herself come to life. His insistence feeds her self-doubt that she should have found another way other than murder. (I hate the fact that we don't see Morgan showing the same insistence with any of the others who have also taken human lives)

It's no wonder she starts to think he's right. But he's not. He realised that in the finale, and hopefully in s7 Carol will realise that too and be made aware that she's not a monster. She needs to unburden herself to someone who can reassure her she has always done the right thing.

You need to think of this logically. I know it's TV and it's not real but you can still apply logic.

IF this were real what would Carol do? Carol would now realise that this world is a lot bigger than she originally, there's a hell of a lot of survivors out there and they're armed. One bullet to the head and she is dead, it's not her and the gang against the Walkers.

Over the years she has lost many good people, people she tried to protect, people that in the end she COULDN'T protect. Those numbers are going down. She's seeing that now, the people she knew are dwindling down.

Look at her reaction at Alexandria. Not only did she pretend to be the innocent housewife to fit in but she did it because she was trying to TAKE IT OVER. Why was she trying to TAKE IT OVER? Because she never thought in her wildest dreams there would be another place full of survivors. What does that mean? That means there might be people there that also aren't stupid, that are well armed with guns and if they don't like her they could easily get rid of her. Basically she's outnumbered and she can't do anything about it. Her instininct is to take it over because by taking it over it gives her and the group power, power they simply don't have in numbers nor ammunition.

Throughout the last season this is what she comes to realise more and more. Not only has she lost loved ones but she's finding out daily that she's just another person, just another woman, just another face in the crowd and it can be game over for her at any time. She's not in control. They don't know when the Wolves will attack again, they don't know when the Walkers will get in again, they don't know when the people of Alexandria will turn on them again. Before it was her and Rick and Glenn and Daryl and they knew the group wouldn't turn on their own. They were a cohesive unit, now it's all wide open, there's not 6 or 7 people watching you're back now, it's maybe 1 or 2 and the rest are somewhere else. Not everyone has her back. They all look after themself first.


And I think this is what we will see next season. No doubt the world will be opened up even more and we will see even more places and people and get to know Negan's crew and where they live and they're gonna be split up and mix with people that could just kill them anytime. I don't think Carol will return to the way she was. She can't change this situation nor can she fix it because they are all outnumbered.

And IF this were real, that's what would happen in real life. People would break down. They would have a mental breakdown after so long and lose the will to keep fighting. Ideally that is how the show would end. There is millions of survivors. This show is Rick's story. This show should end by them being killed and Rick being the last one. It will be grim but that's what would happen in real life. Or they lose food and water and get so far until they reach a city or Washington and it's overrun with Walker and at that point they accept fate, they can't fight anymore and they accept the innevitable. That's where the show should be headed.

I agree completely that it's realistic that people would break down, but I completely disagree with your reasons for why Carol is breaking down.

Being taken out herself is the LAST thing Carol is worried about. It was shown repeatedly in this season that Carol does not really care if she lives or dies. She doesn't value her own life at all, hence she only started fighting in Same Boat when Maggie and the baby were in danger. And why when the Saviour was shooting her she was actually relieved because she thought she was going to die.

She has no qualms with being just another face in the crowd, in fact she CRAVES it - and that was part of the appeal of her cover at Alexandria, and why she seemed to partly return to it when she hooked up with Tobin. But she knows her own instinct to protect everyone she loves, and how good she is at it, means she simply CAN'T be.

It makes no sense that she'd leave her family because she fears being just another face, with no one to watch her back - that's exactly what she is making herself by going off alone.

Her fear is that she can't see people she loves die anymore, but nor can she live with what she knows she HAS to do to protect them so she tries to go off and be alone so she doesn't have to kill for anyone. Of course, it won't work at all - even ignoring Morgan finding her - because she cares too much about EVERYONE and when she sees someone in trouble who needs her help, she'll step up. The only way it can be resolved is for her to realise it's what she has to do, what they all have to do - as Rosita told her - and they have to find a way to live with it.

I don't think she was trying to take it over. She went covert because she didn't trust them and wanted to keep a tactical advantage. She didn't know what that advantage would be needed for, or even if it would be needed at all. It was Rick who talked about taking Alexandria from them, and that was only a contingency if the Alexandrians weren't up to it.

Going covert is how Carol has always worked. Back in the prison, she started teaching the children without the parent's knowledge, and she would do things that needed to be done without asking authority. When she advised Andrea to have sex with the Governor and then murder him, that was going covert and it was what Carol would have done. (I think this goes back to when she was an abused housewife; I'm sure she had fantasies of murdering her husband after sex, and knew how easily she could do it, but didn't because she lacked courage). Going covert in Alexandria was just business as usual for her, not a new reaction to new circumstances.

Any progress?
I have quit watching Fear the Walking dead.
But will never quit Walking Dead.

FWIW I think next season will involve Rick first somehow gaining some level of trust from Negan and his crew. Rick will appear to become one of Negan's crew. He will have to do something extreme, like kill one of his own crew to gain that "trust". There will be feelings of betrayal from his former crew. And then he'll betray Negan and take over or get Neegan's crew depleted or destroyed. Or make them less violent.

But then, this is The Walking Dead where nothing is ruled out in order to survive and the show tries its damndest to be unpredictable.

Ok - my theory on who is dead..........its only a theory - but i'll spoiler it.



Hope I've done the spoiler correctly.......

Hang on - was that character even there ? Its been a while since the finale....

any other ideas ?

Dave

Nope they were not

Just a heads up that Season 6 appears to be half price on Amazon Prime Video today if you are a Prime member.

If anyone want to know who died, they can send me a pm. I will not post it here.