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Bloody good episode, bloody indeed! Miles better than Ep1 and yes i also believe Enid is part of the Wolves tribe.
Having said that i was disappointed the whole episode took place without seeing Rick, Daryll, Abraham and co. getting involved. However Carol and Morgan more than made up for it! Morgan reminds me of Tyrese a little in that he doesn't like killing people. When he saw the attack he should have realised just beating the shit out of people isn't going to stop the Wolves when they're going around hacking everyone to pieces with a machete! Really needs to change his philosophy. He met the Wolves in season 5, he knew what they were like. He isn't going to last long. |
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What an episode! Carol was kicking all kinds of ass. I was so angry with Morgan though - yes, ideally they shouldn't have to kill anyone, but when a gang breaks in and is hacking unarmed people to death, I think you can make an exception to your pacifist ways. Just hitting someone with a stick and telling them to behave isn't going to cut it. And it's proven again the dangers of leaving an enemy alive in this world. The two Wolves Morgan let go last season (the long-haired one and the blond one) ended up leading the attack on Alexandria and killing who knows how many people and capturing others. It's like when Rick was out-voted about killing off the remaining Terminus people, and then later they killed and partially ate Bob. I thought it was interesting that the Wolves seemed to be capturing just men (because they're stronger? To turn into slaves, or stronger walkers maybe?) and killing mostly women and other less strong people, like the two older ladies and the blonde girl, and trying to kill Jessie and Ron (nice scissoring by Jessie, by the way, killing that butch woman Wolf who broke in). Jessie's older son Ron is a little snot, and I hope he gets his comeuppance soon. Deanna and her son were both pretty useless too. They really need to beef up their defences - like getting a sentry besides Sasha who can shoot, and someone in charge of the armoury who isn't afraid of guns. Quote:
I didn't recognize the Wolf. And the young girl, she pretty much admitted such (or was about too) before Carl shut her up. She can be quoted as saying 'how else do you think we' during the attack. Speaking of which, for someone fully aware of the attack outside, she didn't seem fazed at all when entering Carl's house. Why did she also have the keys to the town? it was most likely her that let the wolfs in.
I'm not so sure she is one of the Wolves. I think she just has kind of a fatalistic attitude, not involving herself with the community, staying emotionally unengaged and seeing it just as somewhere to survive. Now that it's come under attack, she's out of there, as it's clearly not safe, as far as she's concerned. Enid's parents came across as total idiots in that flashback - their daughter's screaming at them to get going and there's a bunch of walkers headed right for them, and they're standing around arguing about map directions? No wonder they got eaten. Can't wait for next week, when that walker herd will presumably hit the town. It was a nice bit of misdirection in the previews before this episode, I thought - I assumed that the Alexandrians would be fighting off that horde, but then the threat came from another direction entirely. |
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what was with the A the wall where carol sat with cigarettea at the end?
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Doesn't make sense for Enid to be a wolf, think people are reading to much into things without considering other facts.
Firstly, the wolves only found out about Alexandria when they found Aaron's backpack he left behind last season when Morgan and the wolves first appeared. Enid was already with Alexandria for some months by then. If she was a spy they would have attacked when alexandria was much weaker before Ricky's group arrived. Secondly they had no intel. They would have gone straight for the armoury if they had inside help. Two wolves even asked carol (in disguise) where she got the gun from. I think the JSS was all about Enid being emotionally detached, as seen by her lack of actions during the attack, where just surviving is all they can hope for in the new world. No more life as they used to know it. Every time the group try to make a home and revert back to some prior normalcy they get an awakening. Hopefully this time rick finishes the job and doesn't wait for the remaining wolves to gain the upper hand. Should have learned from the guvnor and terminus that until the other group is all dead there should be no other priority. Except maybe dealing with a horde of zombies! |
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what was with the A the wall where carol sat with cigarettea at the end?
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what was with the A the wall where carol sat with cigarettea at the end?
I took carol seeing it to realise they wern't safe at Alexandria which is why she started crying. Earlier in the day she was discussing cooking with the two women now slayed and here she is with a blood w on her forehead and all the ideals of Alexandria laid waste. The real world is not some fenced in utopia. You will get your arse handed to you if you try to live that way. JSS spelt it out. Survival is all there is now. |
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I didn't see anything in this episode to suggest Enid was one of the wolves, I think it went someway to dispelling that. She was with her parents, they died and she was desperate enough to eat a tortoise. No hint of wolves.
The wolves didn't need an informer anyway, they had the knapsack, photos of the defences and would've been spying. They've also got form for attacking other compounds - Noah's family home for one, I don't imagine that was the first or last. |
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I am such a moron. I've just read through the last few pages in this thread going "who the hell is coral??" Its only now just dawned on me who you guys were referring to
![]() ![]() I'm enjoying the series so far. I was ready to give up on it last year but I'm glad I didn't. I just hope the momentum doesn't drop. |
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it was a very good episode. better than the opener.
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Shane DEFINITELY offered to sacrifice himself so Otis could make it back, Otis refused.
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Season 2 thread >>>>>>
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He wont do that, there are four people standing around him with guns.
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I am such a moron. I've just read through the last few pages in this thread going "who the hell is coral??" Its only now just dawned on me who you guys were referring to.
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As extreme as sometimes Ricks actions and ideas seem, for me every episode is vindicating him more and more. Just off the top of my head;
He wants rid of Pete due to his violent and abusive tendancies - Pete ends up killing Deannas husband. He wants them (original Alexandrians) to learn to use guns & protect themselves, despite their reluctance - last week when encountering walkers when building the walls they havent a clue how to cope and similarly this week when under attack by a human enemy they are practically hopeless. He doesnt want any recruitment to the group, at least for a while - the recruitment info (photos etc.) seemingly leads the wolves to Alexandria and gives them a heads up on their defences. |
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What an episode! Carol was kicking all kinds of ass. I was so angry with Morgan though - yes, ideally they shouldn't have to kill anyone, but when a gang breaks in and is hacking unarmed people to death, I think you can make an exception to your pacifist ways. Just hitting someone with a stick and telling them to behave isn't going to cut it.
And it's proven again the dangers of leaving an enemy alive in this world. The two Wolves Morgan let go last season (the long-haired one and the blond one) ended up leading the attack on Alexandria and killing who knows how many people and capturing others. It's like when Rick was out-voted about killing off the remaining Terminus people, and then later they killed and partially ate Bob. I thought it was interesting that the Wolves seemed to be capturing just men (because they're stronger? To turn into slaves, or stronger walkers maybe?) and killing mostly women and other less strong people, like the two older ladies and the blonde girl, and trying to kill Jessie and Ron (nice scissoring by Jessie, by the way, killing that butch woman Wolf who broke in). Jessie's older son Ron is a little snot, and I hope he gets his comeuppance soon. Deanna and her son were both pretty useless too. They really need to beef up their defences - like getting a sentry besides Sasha who can shoot, and someone in charge of the armoury who isn't afraid of guns. Didn't Enid say she'd grabbed the big set of keys so that 'they' (presumably the Wolves) couldn't get them? I'm not so sure she is one of the Wolves. I think she just has kind of a fatalistic attitude, not involving herself with the community, staying emotionally unengaged and seeing it just as somewhere to survive. Now that it's come under attack, she's out of there, as it's clearly not safe, as far as she's concerned. Enid's parents came across as total idiots in that flashback - their daughter's screaming at them to get going and there's a bunch of walkers headed right for them, and they're standing around arguing about map directions? No wonder they got eaten. Can't wait for next week, when that walker herd will presumably hit the town. It was a nice bit of misdirection in the previews before this episode, I thought - I assumed that the Alexandrians would be fighting off that horde, but then the threat came from another direction entirely. |
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Bloody good episode, bloody indeed! Miles better than Ep1 and yes i also believe Enid is part of the Wolves tribe.
Having said that i was disappointed the whole episode took place without seeing Rick, Daryll, Abraham and co. getting involved. However Carol and Morgan more than made up for it! Morgan reminds me of Tyrese a little in that he doesn't like killing people. When he saw the attack he should have realised just beating the shit out of people isn't going to stop the Wolves when they're going around hacking everyone to pieces with a machete! Really needs to change his philosophy. He met the Wolves in season 5, he knew what they were like. He isn't going to last long. |
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Episodes 1 and 2 were happening more or less at the same time, I think Ricky might have been busy rounding up walkers.
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The question is where was Rick?
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It was alive when driving, got killed in the crash, turned into a walker.
Given their previous use of trucks, I wouldn't mind betting the truck was full of walkers which would have been released into Alexandria, as someone has said, for teh Wolf cults aim of turning the living into walkers. Quote:
Until he does a Jack Shephard and puts someone at risk during surgery, say Deanna, and will only fix her if they lower their guns and does whatever he says. Then he is in complete control of the situation.
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The question is where was Rick?
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It was a Wolf, and Deanna's other son killed him when he emptied his clip into the cab. I suppose in all the many Zombie worlds, the dead turn as quick as is required for the plotline.
Given their previous use of trucks, I wouldn't mind betting the truck was full of walkers which would have been released into Alexandria, as someone has said, for teh Wolf cults aim of turning the living into walkers. I guess we can deduce that Versailles would not survive in the Walking Dead universe. Killed by another human, not a walker. I would have been that idiot who screams and screams and had to be put down. I asked my husband what he would do had there been an acopalypse. I would have stored up on medicines, food, water, wood and diet Pepsi. And got our two teenage sons to help him barricade our house. While I and our two daughters do what we need to do inside the house. Turns out, that was a lousy plan, as he would have taken us out and away. I am extremely pragmatic, ad have no interest in living in fear. |
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It was a Wolf, and Deanna's other son killed him when he emptied his clip into the cab. I suppose in all the many Zombie worlds, the dead turn as quick as is required for the plotline.
Given their previous use of trucks, I wouldn't mind betting the truck was full of walkers which would have been released into Alexandria, as someone has said, for teh Wolf cults aim of turning the living into walkers. I guess we can deduce that Versailles would not survive in the Walking Dead universe. Killed by another human, not a walker. |
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Season 2 thread >>>>>>
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Oh, please..
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On another note, my reasons for saying this about Pete, is that he seemed redeemable. He was no Ted Bundy or Charles Manson, he may have been persuaded to live in peace.
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