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Old 27-10-2015, 21:47
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I just don't think its over for Glenn yet.

I think he is going to try and escape, the dumpster will most likely be involved and possibly the red incendiary devices he's carrying, then either he will have to distract the zombies and run or just sit and wait things out.

He could:

1) Throw one of the incendiary devices, starting a fire to distract the zombies, then get up and run or crawl underthe dumpster and wait things out.

2) Wriggle under the dumpster whilst the zombies are busy eating Nicholas and A) escape if there is a convenient manhole cover or something under there, or B) kill any zombies which attempt to crawl in after him with his knife, meaning he would eventually have a pile of dead zombies blocking the entrance to his hiding place and any sight of him. Then he could wait for the rest to disperse before making his escape.

3) He may not need to bother crawling anywhere; because there are so many zombies crammed into a tight space, most will struggle to reach him. He could kill those immediately surrounding him by stabbing them in the head and then use their fallen bodies to cover his own - like Nicholas' body is doing at the moment. Then the rest of the zombies will just see and smell a pile of rotting corpses and Glenn can just wait things out, or, again, distract them by throwing an incendiary device, wriggle free and run to the fence on the side where there were no zombies. Climb over that, escape.

4) Someone could come along and rescue him. If he still has his walkie-talkie on him, he could try to contact the others.

OR maybe the events never happened at all? What if it is Nicholas having a hallucination? He looked like he was 'spacing' out several times that episode. His and Glenn's death scene could be playing out entirely in his own head as he envisions would happen if he shot himself in the head.
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Old 27-10-2015, 21:48
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Is there another thread on this where people can post spoilers or can the OP get the mods to change the title of the thread? I was enjoying this thread immensely until today.
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Old 27-10-2015, 21:58
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Well when we returned some time had passed right? For all we know weeks and months might have passed from the end of last season and each episode we will see a flashback of Glenn helping the group, helping them build, helping them defend themselves. Or Maggie might start losing her mind and she talks to his ghost or sees him before she goes to sleep at night.
I thought Heath said in episode 1 (I think) when he came back to Alexandria that he'd been gone for two weeks and words to the effect that he didn't know who Eugene was at the gate. Which indicates to me from the end of last season to the beginning of this very little time had elapsed.
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Old 27-10-2015, 22:26
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They were looking for the feed store in particular as the fire would have raged quite quickly. They needed something quick, not just any place that could take an hour to fully engulf in flames.
Must have been some accelerants around, even in the vehicles they couldn't use if there was fuel in them.

Just firebomb a shop with some ignitable content and problem solved. All buildings in America seem to be made of wood anyway. Can't be that hard to get a decent fire going in the middle of a town.
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Old 27-10-2015, 23:40
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It was said in an interview with the cast I read this summer, that Glen was the only one who had not killed anyone. I just thought maybe Maggie had not killed anyone, but I was wrong. It is only Glen.
Maybe they meant he hadn't killed any named people as opposed to anonymous "redshirts"
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Old 28-10-2015, 07:52
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Maybe they meant he hadn't killed any named people as opposed to anonymous "redshirts"

They specified that Glenn was the only one who had not killed any living person.
I dont know if that is true, but a quick google search seems to agree with it.
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Old 28-10-2015, 09:20
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Must have been some accelerants around, even in the vehicles they couldn't use if there was fuel in them.

Just firebomb a shop with some ignitable content and problem solved. All buildings in America seem to be made of wood anyway. Can't be that hard to get a decent fire going in the middle of a town.
Once they found the feed store burned down already Nicolas panicked and couldn't figure out anything else to burn down. The herd was approaching so scavenging for items to use to set fires would have been problematic at best.
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Old 28-10-2015, 10:10
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No, he is in trouble, he has freshly dead bodies piled up outside the door, a football stadium's worth of zombies heading his way and has just emptied all the ammo out of his gun.
I did notice in the final overhead shot of the RV that you could see the roof of some kind of house or other building just through the trees - maybe Rick could make a break for that place, whatever it is? I don't think holing up in the RV will do him any good, in any case - I remember back at the farm when Beth's boyfriend Jimmy got eaten in Dale's RV when walkers forced their way through the door. The doors on those things aren't that strong. I guess if he could get up on the roof of the RV he'd be safe from the walkers at least.

Was he completely out of ammo though? He seemed to use all the ammo in the machine gun on the Wolves outside, but he only fired a couple of shots from his sidearm, and I'm sure in his bag he had weapons that he'd taken from the dead Alexandrians.
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Old 28-10-2015, 11:12
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I'm still surprised how easily people get caught by the dead - sure you are a gonna if someone 'ambushes' you but they don't exactly move fast and all you would have to do is walk briskly and dodge them a bit, yet in the WD universe people get caught out in the open etc, such as the hitch-hiker Rick didn't pick up a few seasons ago.

This point was addressed in the movie Cockneys vs. Zombies where Richard Briers is an old guy with a zimmer-frame who gets chased by a zombie and it ends up with both of them shuffling slowly towards a door with everyone just watching, it goes on for ages and is really funny!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KCiWoSrCX4
Yes I have wondered myself many times watching, when they come across individuals being eaten etc

But I spose there is just so much they have to cover in each show they cant explain everything
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Old 28-10-2015, 12:43
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While I agree that it was probably Nicholas getting torn apart, I think it would strain credibility to say that Glenn gets out of this without a scratch or a bite. Plus, they already pulled that fake-out last season, when Nicholas attacked him in the woods and left him with a bunch of walkers all over him. He miraculously survived that, so pulling the same thing with the same character would just seem cheap.

This show has never pulled it's punches with character deaths, and having Glenn survive this unscathed would rob the show of its drama.
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Old 28-10-2015, 12:50
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Another person disappointed by the last episode of WD. So many chances to escape, fire escapes, roofs, various other things, but they just kept making ridiculous choices. I know someone said that in desperate times people DO make stupid choices but when deciding whether to run into a dead end, or running up a flight of stairs, that shouldn't be one of them.

I have mixed feelings about Glen too. If hes dead - then that was a really underwhelming death for such a big character. However, if he isn't I worry that the whole series is going to be based on him being lost, and getting back to Maggie (a lot of the focus of this ep. was that Glen was relying on Nicholas to show him directions, as he didn't know himself. Usually the writers don't focus on who knows the location and who doesn't!) However, we already had a whole series based on reuniting the pair of them, and I don't think I can be bothered seeing all that again.

I am curious to see how Rick gets out of this one though...
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Old 28-10-2015, 12:56
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Just watched Monday's episode now. A trifle disappointing given the near-excellence of last week's episode.
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Old 28-10-2015, 12:57
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Another person disappointed by the last episode of WD. So many chances to escape, fire escapes, roofs, various other things, but they just kept making ridiculous choices. I know someone said that in desperate times people DO make stupid choices but when deciding whether to run into a dead end, or running up a flight of stairs, that shouldn't be one of them.
I got the impression we were supposed to think that the stairs were blocked by the mattress. Although in real life I think most people would have tried to get up them still.
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Old 28-10-2015, 13:05
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If hes dead - then that was a really underwhelming death for such a big character.
Assuming he is dead, I actually kind of like that it was an underwhelming death. It reinforces that, in this world, you don't always get that big, meaningful death, or get to go out in a blaze of glory. Sometimes you just end up in a Kobayashi Maru situation. Or someone else's mistake takes you down with them.
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Old 28-10-2015, 13:06
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I got the impression we were supposed to think that the stairs were blocked by the mattress. Although in real life I think most people would have tried to get up them still.
The problem TWD has is that as soon as anyone takes the high ground to evade walkers it makes the zombie menace non existent.
"Walkers!!" .. Quick climb a tree
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Old 28-10-2015, 13:08
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The problem TWD has is that as soon as anyone takes the high ground to evade walkers it makes the zombie menace non existent.
"Walkers!!" .. Quick climb a tree
Walkers are the Daleks of the horror world.

TBH Going to a roof would only work if the walkers could be either lead away or forgot you were there. Other wise you'd be stuck up there till you died of hunger.
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Old 28-10-2015, 13:11
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I got the impression we were supposed to think that the stairs were blocked by the mattress. Although in real life I think most people would have tried to get up them still.
It was blocked by more than just a mattress and also the door at the top appeared to have been boarded up. Though I agree, if it were me, I'd have still tried to get up them because it's a higher vantage point, the zombies would've struggled to get up them and the numbers climbing the stairs would've been in small, controlled amounts and therefore easy to kill or kick down the stairs.
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Old 28-10-2015, 13:17
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Is was also funny that the fence that blocked the alleyway just happened to have a sheet over it so that no one could see what was on the other side.
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Old 28-10-2015, 13:22
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Immediately after the close-up of Glenn on the floor, with Nicholas being torn apart on top of him (I'm certain it's only Nicholas who is being eaten at that point) you get an aerial shot of the place and you can see Glenn has fallen really close to the dumpster, with the back of his head facing it.

Glenn appears to slide back towards the dumpster but I can't tell if he's being dragged towards it or if he was using his legs to push himself towards it and then he disappears from view.
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Old 28-10-2015, 13:26
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There were other stairs before they got to the alley.
I think the whole point of the bad choices was to show how when Nicholas was given a chance to lead, he still messed up. Hence the 'thank you' for the chance.
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Old 28-10-2015, 13:27
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I'm still surprised how easily people get caught by the dead - sure you are a gonna if someone 'ambushes' you but they don't exactly move fast and all you would have to do is walk briskly and dodge them a bit, yet in the WD universe people get caught out in the open etc, such as the hitch-hiker Rick didn't pick up a few seasons ago.

This point was addressed in the movie Cockneys vs. Zombies where Richard Briers is an old guy with a zimmer-frame who gets chased by a zombie and it ends up with both of them shuffling slowly towards a door with everyone just watching, it goes on for ages and is really funny!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KCiWoSrCX4
I think with the hitch-hiker, he'd been running to try and catch up with Rick and the others in the car. He did that twice I think. He was probably exhausted by the time the walkers got to him. The walkers move slowly, but they never get tired themselves. Or maybe the hitcher just gave up and let himself get taken - he did seem in great despair after Rick and the others drove off and left him, after al.

But usually it should be fairly easy to walk briskly and dodge them - after Rick and the others escaped Terminus we saw them walking ahead of a herd that was following them and keeping just far enough away - at least until they had to stop and rest.
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Old 28-10-2015, 13:44
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There were other stairs before they got to the alley.
I think the whole point of the bad choices was to show how when Nicholas was given a chance to lead, he still messed up. Hence the 'thank you' for the chance.
Yes, Glenn knew better than anyone all the awful things Nicholas had done yet he chose to believe in Nicholas and gave him a chance to redeem himself. I believe Nicholas was thanking Glenn for helping him do that, for believing in him and for teaching him and trying to keep him safe.
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Old 28-10-2015, 14:36
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Great episode 3 as far as i'm concerned! These are the kind of TWD episodes i like and i wish there were more of and not the borefests that was Ep1 or the character study arcs that we see so often with this show.

I just love the pure adrenaline and excitement we get in these types of episodes.

As for Glenn, whether he lives or dies just accept it for what it is - a tv show.

If he dies in the next episode, then bravado on the makers for killing off a major character in the manner in which he died and no one will ever know what happened to him.

If he lives, then he survives another day. Move on.

The fact the actor didn't appear on Talking Dead tells me he survived......so far.

Loved the ending and the overhead shot of Rick on the bus and hordes of zombies about to strike. Great episode!
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Old 28-10-2015, 16:37
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So which will be the cheesier escape, Glenn or Rick's?

Glenn, under the dumpster, no other way out unless someone else intervenes. I was expecting Rick to go back for the others in the motorhome (at least to get Michonne and the others as they legged it from the shop, if not for Glenn and Nick by arriving at the end of the alley) as a way out for them, until I realised what he was really doing.

Rick, lean out the back window of the motorhome and ask the walkers for a push so he can jump start it.
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Old 28-10-2015, 17:17
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Given Zombies don't eat each other, I've often wondered how much or what organs of a person have to be eaten to stop them "coming back". Presumably if the body reanimated they would stop eating them.
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