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Old 30-10-2015, 19:58
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the quarry bit annoys me most . if you could lure all the walkers there and burn them it would be perfect...ideal. so why rick sets them all free and risks everyones lives is plain stupidity. also leaving alexandria vulnerable cause you want to play ar being able to control herds of walkers with your mates is vain. ricks show off tendencies get people killed. ok the alexandrians were naive but since rick arrived a lot more of them have died than before
Rick didn't set them free for his own ego. As was clearly shown in the episode, they were very close to breaking free on their own, and they eventually did so. Rick's plan was based on sound logic.
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Old 30-10-2015, 20:02
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The last time we saw him he went a little crazy after losing his son, and how did he learn to fight like he does? I'd say that''s pretty drastic.
Yes, how did he learn all that kung-fu pole fighter stuff?
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Old 30-10-2015, 22:07
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Yes, how did he learn all that kung-fu pole fighter stuff?
I believe that is one of the things they will reveal in the next episode; there were mentions of a new character.

I wonder if the person who taught Morgan how to fight will join Rick's group sometime in the future? Assuming they are still alive. Whoever they are, they seem to have had some influence on Morgan given that he now tries to avoid killing 'all life is precious' and all that. He wasn't like that before.
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Old 30-10-2015, 22:25
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Yes, how did he learn all that kung-fu pole fighter stuff?
Patience young grasshopper, all will be revealed.
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Old 30-10-2015, 22:37
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I was disappointed in Michonne when that guy died by the fence. Why didn't she end his suffering, instead of standing there gawping while he was screaming like mad as he was eaten alive?
Yep agree it was terrible, maybe it will haunt her in future episodes
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Old 30-10-2015, 22:53
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Just finished watching it, After all it really is a friday night program. Was annoyed at that fence scene as mentioned above.

I knew Glen was going to die 5am tuesday morning because no matter how hard you try to avoid spoilers some people just cant help it.
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Old 30-10-2015, 22:58
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Rick didn't set them free for his own ego. As was clearly shown in the episode, they were very close to breaking free on their own, and they eventually did so. Rick's plan was based on sound logic.
i dunno. the logic was that they would escape from the quarry. but rick never looked in to how they could seal them in and destroy them there.
they could have poured petrol on the ones trying to escape on the slope up to the lorries that were penning them in and the others would have caught fire as they herd together. it would have been easy to do this with out all the death and destruction by the rickrambo plan
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Old 30-10-2015, 23:00
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Poor Glen
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Old 30-10-2015, 23:43
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Rick being stick at the end of this weeks epsiode reminds me of him being out numbered in the city of zombies while he hidden under the
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Old 30-10-2015, 23:45
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Old 31-10-2015, 08:12
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Yes.

I dont understand why Michonne did not react and killed that poor man. Has she changed too, is she hurt in some way? Or was it just sloppy writing?

Even if it passed through writing and directing, the actress herself (who I adore, she is amazing), should have said something about it being totally out of character for Michonne.
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Old 31-10-2015, 09:07
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Does burning walkers kill them or just make them crunchy?
As they're human based they can be crematoriumed if the temperature/duration of the fire is right.

I think we saw flame grilled zombies in an earlier season which obviously survived whichever fire it was.

Would be good to see them use new ideas for dealing with hordes and heards, some sort of mass destroying device whether it be based on chemistry (acid, fire) or physics (big machine to steamroller or pulverise them).

Again this is where Z Nation is somewhat more inventive, though for laughs rather than realism. You'll know what I mean if you've seen that show.
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Old 31-10-2015, 09:13
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I dont understand why Michonne did not react and killed that poor man. Has she changed too, is she hurt in some way? Or was it just sloppy writing?

Even if it passed through writing and directing, the actress herself (who I adore, she is amazing), should have said something about it being totally out of character for Michonne.

Maybe she was in shock at nearly getting munched herself after the writers decide she's no longer fit enough to jump a fence. Michonne is definitely fit enough.

Michonne was probably in turmoil about her 'promise' he'd get back home and now seeing she couldn't see that through and didn't want to be the one to finalise that by mercy killing him.

Really though I think it was just to linger on the death scene a few seconds to add shock value to the audience as much as the characters being shocked at the close proximity of the death and them being helpless to save him.
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Old 31-10-2015, 09:43
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Does burning walkers kill them or just make them crunchy?
I think there's a few times when we've seen walkers on fire and still functioning, like when Carol attacked Terminus and mingled among the walkers she'd set on fire while in disguise, and when she and Tyreese and the little girls at the farmhouse they got attacked by some walkers that were on fire too.

And when they all went to Atlanta to free Beth, didn't they see a bunch of walkers that had been napalmed back when the army napalmed the city during the outbreak, and they were still kind of functioning, even though they were pretty melted and stuck to the tarmac? And that must have been over a year since the napalming happened.
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Old 31-10-2015, 11:36
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Im hoping it's not a 100% Morgan centric ep, also I can't believe that so far in season 6 we have only seen 1 days worth of events
Well, we also had a lot of flashbacks in the first episode, so it covered several days. That said, I imagine they'll resolve the cliff-hangers from this episode, in addition to the Morgan stuff.

Does burning walkers kill them or just make them crunchy?
It stops them if it cooks the brain, but doing that can be a bit chancy. Fire's not as effective against walkers as it is against humans. However, if they're constrained in a pit or quarry it could be effective and efficient, as long as the smoke didn't attract unwanted attention from elsewhere.

Rick didn't set them free for his own ego. As was clearly shown in the episode, they were very close to breaking free on their own, and they eventually did so. Rick's plan was based on sound logic.
No, it was stupid. He spent time and manpower building a fence to redirect the walkers at a key corner. He could have used that time to shore up the barricades at the quarry. Then he'd have had unlimited time to decide what to do next. He could have tried burning them, and tried killing them with slingshots or whatever, to give the newbies some target practice and build their confidence. He could also improve Alexandria's defences. They need to take down their fence and rebuild it so it works against humans. Dig pits to trap zombies before they even get to the fence, and make it harder to bring vehicles (and tanks!) in close. There's a lot that needs doing before he needed to tackle the quarry. In the meantime it effectively defended against walkers coming from that direction.

Eventually, if nothing else worked at the quarry, he could have gone back to his original plan, but this time take the time to get it right - clear the route in advance, build a stronger redirecting fence, practice. Chances are it would still have failed, since all it took was one car horn to get the walkers off-route, but he'd have been a bit better placed.
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Old 31-10-2015, 11:44
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Yes, but the walkers in the quarry were increasing in number because of the noise they were making, which attracted more walkers, which made more noise. The quarry was the reason that Alexandria had seen so few walkers, as they were all trapped there. The walkers had started to break through the barriers at the quarry, remember the lorry falling down? This forced Rick to make his decision immediately. It may or may not have been the best decision, but he had to prevent the walkers from reaching Alexandria somehow.
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Old 31-10-2015, 12:07
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^^ That the quarry attracted walkers and kept them from reaching Alexandria was a good thing. The longer it continued, the more time they had to improve Alexandria's defences.

The walkers were starting to get through: that's why Rick needed to re-enforce the barricades at the quarry, to stop them. If necessary find more lorries, or build another fence, or do what it takes.

If you remember the lorry falling down, then you'll remember this happened after Rick had spent a day or so building a fence to redirect the walkers. The time spent building the fence, and scouting the route etc, could have been spent improving the barricades at the quarry. When the lorry fell, he had no other choice, but that was because of the wrong choices he'd made earlier. He painted himself into a corner. (Which is kind of a theme of this season.)
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Old 31-10-2015, 12:18
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^^ That the quarry attracted walkers and kept them from reaching Alexandria was a good thing. The longer it continued, the more time they had to improve Alexandria's defences.

The walkers were starting to get through: that's why Rick needed to re-enforce the barricades at the quarry, to stop them. If necessary find more lorries, or build another fence, or do what it takes.

If you remember the lorry falling down, then you'll remember this happened after Rick had spent a day or so building a fence to redirect the walkers. The time spent building the fence, and scouting the route etc, could have been spent improving the barricades at the quarry. When the lorry fell, he had no other choice, but that was because of the wrong choices he'd made earlier. He painted himself into a corner. (Which is kind of a theme of this season.)
Sure, just throw up a barricade there and then with two people, or build one twenty miles away where you have time and manpower and materials.
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Old 31-10-2015, 12:27
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^^ ???

Obviously he'd use more than two people. The barricade they built wasn't twenty miles away. The show hasn't been clear on the geography, but it was somewhere between the quarry and Alexandria, which is walking distance. (20 miles away is where they planned to lead the walkers.) They have vehicles; we've seen them move people around for largish jobs before.
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Old 31-10-2015, 13:59
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Whatever extra barricades they might have built at the quarry they would not have been able to shore up the cliff face which collapsed and let the lorry fall so that would still have happened.

Once that did there would only have been whatever defences Rick and Co had managed to put up in a couple of days to stop the Herd.


Yes Rick's plan to just lead the Herd away wasn't the best but I don't think keeping the Walkers in the Quarry for a longer term would have worked out well either.
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Old 31-10-2015, 17:15
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How long is a couple of weeks?
I am not native English speaker, so a just curious how long Heath and his friends had been out of Alexandria.

If it is four weeks, then Rick et co must have been in Alexandria less than that. And in that short period of time, Noah, Reg, his son and some more have died.

They seem to cope well. But I guess they will have to.
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Old 31-10-2015, 18:46
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How long is a couple of weeks?
I am not native English speaker, so a just curious how long Heath and his friends had been out of Alexandria.
A couple of weeks would be 2 weeks.

And in that short period of time, Noah, Reg, his son and some more have died.
They were losing people before Rick showed up. Nicholas and whatshisname lost 4 or 5 people shortly before Rick and co arrived.

I'm guessing while no one who stayed behind the Walls full time had been killed since the Walls went up they regularly lost people who went outside.
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Old 31-10-2015, 19:53
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A couple of weeks would be 2 weeks.



They were losing people before Rick showed up. Nicholas and whatshisname lost 4 or 5 people shortly before Rick and co arrived.

I'm guessing while no one who stayed behind the Walls full time had been killed since the Walls went up they regularly lost people who went outside.

Yes, I know they were losing people. I was not saying anything against Rick. My (kind of) point was that they seem to cope well, given that they have lost so many in so short period of time.
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Old 31-10-2015, 20:00
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I think it was a s*itty move of Rick to deny Pete a burial inside the walls. Not for Pete's sake (), but for his sons.
For some reason unknown to man, children (when they are young that is) love their parents, even if they are lousy at parenting.

Rick has been there two weeks, and should still be adapting. I know Deanna agreed, but she just lost her husband, so that was understandable.


I also agree with Morgan in that they too are killers. Just because they kill someone they think are unworthy of living does not make it right. Or maybe it is. I am pro capital punishment, but I am also pro a fair trial.
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Old 01-11-2015, 00:34
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I think it was a s*itty move of Rick to deny Pete a burial inside the walls. Not for Pete's sake (), but for his sons.
For some reason unknown to man, children (when they are young that is) love their parents, even if they are lousy at parenting.

Rick has been there two weeks, and should still be adapting. I know Deanna agreed, but she just lost her husband, so that was understandable.


I also agree with Morgan in that they too are killers. Just because they kill someone they think are unworthy of living does not make it right. Or maybe it is. I am pro capital punishment, but I am also pro a fair trial.
I agree, I mean if anything it now has a psychological edge on the kids that they will want to get him back.

Really is a big mistake
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