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Old 01-12-2015, 01:17
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Pretty terrible batch of episodes. Morgan and everyone from Alexandria can f**k right off when the show comes back. One of them has been ruined and the rest have just been terrible additions from the second they were introduced.
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Old 01-12-2015, 01:26
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Episode could have been better

Few questions:

What was Gabriel's speech about
Is it safe to cover Judith under the sheet as was done?
How did Judith not even cry?
Has he got a bald spot, if not then this seemed to be the perfect opportunity but why oh why do you keep the hat on Carl?
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Old 01-12-2015, 01:55
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Yet another 'building up' episode. Very tiresome first half of this season, honestly!
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Old 01-12-2015, 02:05
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This season hasn't that great reviews. The problem is since season 1 it's been rubbish. It started off with a strong cast and the new ones introduced have been poor. Far too much storey telling and not enough action. I'm sure I read they have scripts away upto season 11 or something? I doubt that will happen I give the show 2 more seasons.

The mistake was following the comics. All the episodes minus Rick are weak. Some people say it's annoying Rick running the show however all the better cast have left so the show is weaker.

Plus the show always has loads of bad guys each season. Surely there would be more groups that are better? I think over all the show has no real direction. The show will have a legacy of a strong season one and fairly good season 2 but quickly got boring.
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Old 01-12-2015, 02:06
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What has happened to Heath, Mikey, Eric, and Scott ? They had talking parts so can't be considered red shirts. Heath and Scott I believe came back with Michone. I hate it when known characters are missing at important plot times.

I know it wouldn't work TV wise, as Negan would be dead in seconds, but it would have been a great swerve for the comic book fans if Abraham got out an RPG and blew all the Saviours away instantly
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Old 01-12-2015, 02:06
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Yet another 'building up' episode. Very tiresome first half of this season, honestly!
This has been going on for a few seasons now. For some reason the script writers want to make it a soap opera rather than proper drama series.
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Old 01-12-2015, 02:10
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http://www.vox.com/culture/2015/11/3...8-recap-finale

Thoughts on this article? Seems to have a fair judgement on this series ..
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Old 01-12-2015, 02:40
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I think what a lot of you fail to understand is that in order for this show to survive, they do need to keep meeting new people, you can't kill off old characters unless you can replace them. Remember this is Rick's story. Everyone bar RIck is par for the course. Yes the show at some point, in the near future hopefully, will have everyone settled down and it will be more story based, most of you want zombie action every episode and that can't be sustained at all. This is a television show. Television shows rely on characters, characters that all act, speak, and react differently to one another.

This is what The Walking Dead truly is. The zombies are just a vehicle, the show does not revolve around them. No different than The Big Bang Theory using student life as a vehicle or Only Fools and Horses with market traders living from one day to the next. That's just your vehicle, it's not about the vehicle, it is only there to put your characters in a certain living situation with various characters around them and we get to see how they live day to day. For those of you that are banging on about wanting more violence and zombies, go read the comics or watch some horror movies to get your blood fix, if this show was to only be about violence it would get old very quickly and I guarantee all of you would feel the same way. The reason this kind of storytelling needs to be done is because this is what ultimately gets you to care about the characters. People keep talking about season 1. What they are doing with these people in Alexandria is not a whole lot different to what was done in season 1 but you all still found your favourites right?

No one forced Daryl down your throat but he became this legend in the show by nothing more than pure character development and so many people clung on to him and he's their hero. Nothing different than what you see now. Change is inevitable and maybe by the end of this season or season 7 some of these new comers might become a fan favourite of yours but in order to do that time has to be spent telling their story to you because at the end of the day the world will always be full of zombies. There will always be bad guys, there will always be a need to go on a food run or a medical supply run, there will always be new people that need to be taught how to use guns or face the reality of the situation. All these things will never change but what can change are the people we see and their interactions and how they get along and how relationships are forged and the impact we experience when we lose people along the way. That's the part that should keep you watching and it seems that by most of you loving the season 1 cast only, maybe it is possible for you to care about other characters.
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Old 01-12-2015, 07:33
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I think what a lot of you fail to understand is that in order for this show to survive, they do need to keep meeting new people, you can't kill off old characters unless you can replace them. Remember this is Rick's story. Everyone bar RIck is par for the course. Yes the show at some point, in the near future hopefully, will have everyone settled down and it will be more story based, most of you want zombie action every episode and that can't be sustained at all. This is a television show. Television shows rely on characters, characters that all act, speak, and react differently to one another.

This is what The Walking Dead truly is. The zombies are just a vehicle, the show does not revolve around them. No different than The Big Bang Theory using student life as a vehicle or Only Fools and Horses with market traders living from one day to the next. That's just your vehicle, it's not about the vehicle, it is only there to put your characters in a certain living situation with various characters around them and we get to see how they live day to day. For those of you that are banging on about wanting more violence and zombies, go read the comics or watch some horror movies to get your blood fix, if this show was to only be about violence it would get old very quickly and I guarantee all of you would feel the same way. The reason this kind of storytelling needs to be done is because this is what ultimately gets you to care about the characters. People keep talking about season 1. What they are doing with these people in Alexandria is not a whole lot different to what was done in season 1 but you all still found your favourites right?

No one forced Daryl down your throat but he became this legend in the show by nothing more than pure character development and so many people clung on to him and he's their hero. Nothing different than what you see now. Change is inevitable and maybe by the end of this season or season 7 some of these new comers might become a fan favourite of yours but in order to do that time has to be spent telling their story to you because at the end of the day the world will always be full of zombies. There will always be bad guys, there will always be a need to go on a food run or a medical supply run, there will always be new people that need to be taught how to use guns or face the reality of the situation. All these things will never change but what can change are the people we see and their interactions and how they get along and how relationships are forged and the impact we experience when we lose people along the way. That's the part that should keep you watching and it seems that by most of you loving the season 1 cast only, maybe it is possible for you to care about other characters.
What a good and true post.

I thoroughly disliked Eugene and Abraham when they first came into TWD, but I think they're great now, they have developed over time as Hershel,Maggie and Beth did.

It's a character based drama, and as has been said often before , the title refers to Rick and his clan, not the zombies.It's a tale about survival in a post apocalyptic world and as far as a show with zombies can be realistic, it is fairly realistic, there will be lots of adversaries along the way as everyone's out for themselves and supplies are thin on the ground.

I agree with Linkin park about the good groups though. I think there would be more. It annoys me when they appear to be good but are hiding a dreadful secret such as the group at Terminus.
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Old 01-12-2015, 08:37
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all these disasters stem from ricks stupid decision to lure the thousands of walkers out of the quarry instead of torching them there. he seems to make a lot of bad decisions that cost lives. also he has the group and the alexandrians running around doing dangerous stunts that get a lot of them killed when they could be out scouting for supplies and potential enemies or recruits like aaron did the reconnisance when he wanted ricks group to join. ricks not taking the group forward. its in a constant meltdown every week cause rick makes decidions that allow him to play being rambo but are dangerous for the others safety and alexandria
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Old 01-12-2015, 08:45
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Stunned about how underwhelming this episode was. After the first 2 episodes it's like they're doing a Lost and stretching everything out as much as they can.

Far too much 'story' telling. i.e. people sat around talking about trivial stuff (e.g. Deanna to Michonne: "What do you want (out of all this)?" several times) that would not happen in real life. They'd be talking about how to contact the others in and outside of Alexandria, what to do now while there may be still a chance to escape or move around the site a bit.

I feel this season hasn't been as balanced action wise as earlier seasons. I enjoy the set pieces that they come up against, either when something kicks off or they are on a run and come across something unexpected. Now it's all sat around talking tripe while waiting for the safety to be removed and another group of baddies to come on the scene. I do hope the next lot aren't just another rehash of Woodbury and the Governor.

Biggest problem with the episode for me was how dumb the writers have made the veterans. We can forgive the Alexandrians such stupidity after their sheltering from the real world but the veterans should have more street smarts.

1. opening of episode wasted on some kid (who I can't really recall why he went so introverted and stays upstairs, seemed to happen after sitting on Carol's step during ep 2 when the wolves attacked) and his half eaten cookie and the ants.

2. The tower toppling (which should have been the opening scene, but no they want to slow the episode right down so all the action occurs in the opener for the second half of the season). Rick and the other guy had been reinforcing the wall right next to it but somehow missed seeing/hearing all the bits of wood falling off that we'd been shown in clips throughout the previous episode.

3. All the 'horror chick falls' as the veterans react to the wall breach and have to be slowed down enough to be at peril from slow walkers. Seemingly everyone (Rick, Maggie, Carol especially) can no longer run without tripping over their own feet. Maggie wasting time firing a couple of shots so the other walkers catch up with her before she can get to the ladder. Rick and Deanna somehow slow enough to have walkers all around them. Carol falling so badly she gets concussed!

4. Dumbassness everywhere.

Eugene being the one to say 'help' to Daryl on the radio then drops the radio! I guess it would have been too handy for him to give some proper feedback to Daryl on the state of things so they weren't just cruising down the road when Negan's mob on the bikes stopped them. Way too casual, they didn't even have their guns drawn when stepping out of the truck despite being ambushed by possibly the same bunch just a few hours ago. And what's with putting that clip after the end credits? No warning about that on Fox so I turned over after being so disappointed in the episode and couldn't care less about staying tuned for Talking Dead. Bet I'm not the only one that missed it (and many probably still have if they don't see something like the heads up on this thread).

Rick and Michonne taking ages to decide to get to the armoury to get a means of dealing with the horde. They could have slipped out of the back door if they'd been a bit quicker. Leave the others to worry about Deanna and the kids. Just get them upstairs and barricade the stairs instead of trying to barricade several ground floor entrances.

Eugene (again) sat reading a history of the world book (using valuable lighter fluid for light that isn't needed) instead of using his only asset (brain) to come up with immediate action plans.

Rosita and Tara just handing over their guns to a wolf armed with a knife, who is part of a group that mercilessly slaughtered Alexandrians last time they saw him. Rosita could definitely have shot the guy in the head.

Wolf guy inexplicably not killing anyone despite that being his MO and even saying all along that is what they do, to show that Morgan has no chance of changing him, yet he has changes already!

This show needs better writers if they are to avoid it continuing to be the dumbed down version we are seeing, that seems influenced by the approach they took with Fear The Walking Dead.

This show has taken a dumpster dive. So disappointing.
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Old 01-12-2015, 08:51
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all these disasters stem from ricks stupid decision to lure the thousands of walkers out of the quarry instead of torching them there. he seems to make a lot of bad decisions that cost lives. also he has the group and the alexandrians running around doing dangerous stunts that get a lot of them killed when they could be out scouting for supplies and potential enemies or recruits like aaron did the reconnisance when he wanted ricks group to join. ricks not taking the group forward. its in a constant meltdown every week cause rick makes decidions that allow him to play being rambo but are dangerous for the others safety and alexandria
Setting fire to walking corpses would make things exponentially worse. They'd still be the same as before, only now they're on fire!
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Old 01-12-2015, 09:08
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Ah just a lackey, there is hope then.

I won't bother spoiling the surprise as everyone in the know seems excited about this bloke's arrival.

Three and a half months until the new episodes, how cruel.
Two and a half months, not 3 (December, January, half of February), it returns on 14th February.
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Old 01-12-2015, 09:10
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For those who hates Morgan
Spoiler
This one post (where it was made clear it was something to do with hating Morgan) that had way to much information outside the spoiler ruined the Carol - Morgan scene for me, please refrain from doing this again, you may like to live your life knowing what happens and ruining the excitement of the reveal, but I do not!!
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Old 01-12-2015, 09:12
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Virtual Paul, agree with everything you say except for the wolf, perhaps Morgan and the doctor's mercy may have changed his outlook somewhat.

But yes it was very frustrating that they keep finding ways of contriving to slow up the action. Except for the first 2 episodes they have been desperately slamming on the brakes since then. I can only assume they have been running out of ideas and budget to pay all of the actors to appear on every show.

It looks like Neagan may be another Guv'nor type, honestly does everyone have to be so similar in the apocalypse?
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Old 01-12-2015, 09:14
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Stunned about how underwhelming this episode was. After the first 2 episodes it's like they're doing a Lost and stretching everything out as much as they can.

Far too much 'story' telling. i.e. people sat around talking about trivial stuff (e.g. Deanna to Michonne: "What do you want (out of all this)?" several times) that would not happen in real life. They'd be talking about how to contact the others in and outside of Alexandria, what to do now while there may be still a chance to escape or move around the site a bit.

I feel this season hasn't been as balanced action wise as earlier seasons. I enjoy the set pieces that they come up against, either when something kicks off or they are on a run and come across something unexpected. Now it's all sat around talking tripe while waiting for the safety to be removed and another group of baddies to come on the scene. I do hope the next lot aren't just another rehash of Woodbury and the Governor.

Biggest problem with the episode for me was how dumb the writers have made the veterans. We can forgive the Alexandrians such stupidity after their sheltering from the real world but the veterans should have more street smarts.

1. opening of episode wasted on some kid (who I can't really recall why he went so introverted and stays upstairs, seemed to happen after sitting on Carol's step during ep 2 when the wolves attacked) and his half eaten cookie and the ants.

2. The tower toppling (which should have been the opening scene, but no they want to slow the episode right down so all the action occurs in the opener for the second half of the season). Rick and the other guy had been reinforcing the wall right next to it but somehow missed seeing/hearing all the bits of wood falling off that we'd been shown in clips throughout the previous episode.

3. All the 'horror chick falls' as the veterans react to the wall breach and have to be slowed down enough to be at peril from slow walkers. Seemingly everyone (Rick, Maggie, Carol especially) can no longer run without tripping over their own feet. Maggie wasting time firing a couple of shots so the other walkers catch up with her before she can get to the ladder. Rick and Deanna somehow slow enough to have walkers all around them. Carol falling so badly she gets concussed!

4. Dumbassness everywhere.

Eugene being the one to say 'help' to Daryl on the radio then drops the radio! I guess it would have been too handy for him to give some proper feedback to Daryl on the state of things so they weren't just cruising down the road when Negan's mob on the bikes stopped them. Way too casual, they didn't even have their guns drawn when stepping out of the truck despite being ambushed by possibly the same bunch just a few hours ago. And what's with putting that clip after the end credits? No warning about that on Fox so I turned over after being so disappointed in the episode and couldn't care less about staying tuned for Talking Dead. Bet I'm not the only one that missed it (and many probably still have if they don't see something like the heads up on this thread).

Rick and Michonne taking ages to decide to get to the armoury to get a means of dealing with the horde. They could have slipped out of the back door if they'd been a bit quicker. Leave the others to worry about Deanna and the kids. Just get them upstairs and barricade the stairs instead of trying to barricade several ground floor entrances.

Eugene (again) sat reading a history of the world book (using valuable lighter fluid for light that isn't needed) instead of using his only asset (brain) to come up with immediate action plans.

Rosita and Tara just handing over their guns to a wolf armed with a knife, who is part of a group that mercilessly slaughtered Alexandrians last time they saw him. Rosita could definitely have shot the guy in the head.

Wolf guy inexplicably not killing anyone despite that being his MO and even saying all along that is what they do, to show that Morgan has no chance of changing him, yet he has changes already!

This show needs better writers if they are to avoid it continuing to be the dumbed down version we are seeing, that seems influenced by the approach they took with Fear The Walking Dead.

This show has taken a dumpster dive. So disappointing.
You are making so many good points and are covering what I was saying last night. It has just missed the spot so much this season with trying to be "edgy" or "groudnbreaking" The glacial pace at which the series is moving, with only a couple of days being covered in this first half, has been so boring.

I too was perplexed at how most of the well established characters seemed to be making silly moves. Had they did this during the siege of the prison, the series would have ended as none of them would have survived.

Carol really did puzzle me and did not resemble the woman who snuck into Terminus like a one woman army to free her group
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Old 01-12-2015, 09:29
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You are making so many good points and are covering what I was saying last night. It has just missed the spot so much this season with trying to be "edgy" or "groudnbreaking" The glacial pace at which the series is moving, with only a couple of days being covered in this first half, has been so boring.

I too was perplexed at how most of the well established characters seemed to be making silly moves. Had they did this during the siege of the prison, the series would have ended as none of them would have survived.

Carol really did puzzle me and did not resemble the woman who snuck into Terminus like a one woman army to free her group
I dunno I kinda liked the fact that carol was trying to convince Morgan that they needed to kill the wolf .. Tried to make him realise that it was the best option and it's not that she wants to kill Morgan but he was allowing a threat to her friends/family to remain a threat by living then she would do whatever it takes to remove that threat (including killing Morgan).. And that right there is why Carole is a true BAMF

ETA .. Also she is probably a little shell shocked st the minute in terms of the show we are talking only a couple of hours since the wolves raided Alexandria and whilst they are trying to recover from that the walkers break though (plus she was concussed ) I think if she wasn't Morgan may have had his hand a little fuller
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Old 01-12-2015, 09:58
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Hmmm my thoughts on the mid season finale....

It was kinda ho hum, some good bits but plenty of dull bits

Missed Daryl, Sasha, Abraham, Glen, Aaron surely they should have all been back for the MSfinale?

* Not sure why when you have bullets you would choose to be eaten alive (silly Deanna)
* Morgan is an idiot, don't even know the name of the woman the wolf took and how the hell will they survive? (i'm sure they will somehow)
* Kind of glad to see the back of Alexandria, I felt it really slowed any story down
* the writers must have taken ALOT of holiday or ha some serious writers block and had to make stuff up as they went along
* I really hope the last part of this season proves better
*maybe get some fans from forums around the world to help get the writers block fixed

As always just my opinion but unlike many years i'm happy to wait till Feb till the next bit
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Old 01-12-2015, 10:02
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I dunno I kinda liked the fact that carol was trying to convince Morgan that they needed to kill the wolf .. Tried to make him realise that it was the best option and it's not that she wants to kill Morgan but he was allowing a threat to her friends/family to remain a threat by living then she would do whatever it takes to remove that threat (including killing Morgan).. And that right there is why Carole is a true BAMF

ETA .. Also she is probably a little shell shocked st the minute in terms of the show we are talking only a couple of hours since the wolves raided Alexandria and whilst they are trying to recover from that the walkers break though (plus she was concussed ) I think if she wasn't Morgan may have had his hand a little fuller
My comment on Carol was surrounding the fact she seemed rather clumsy at the beginning, falling over her feet etc, unless this was part of her plan to get into Morgan's place

The biggest surprise for me was Carl and how he handled that little snot Ron. When he commented that Ron's dad was a bit of an a**hole.
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Old 01-12-2015, 10:03
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* Kind of glad to see the back of Alexandria, I felt it really slowed any story down
I don't think we have. I'm sure somehow they'll manage to clear out the walkers, fix the wall and then plod along occasionally teasing the appearance of Negan for the rest of the season.

I'm out. I'll keep an eye on this thread to see if things pick up but no more watching 'live' for me at best I will give it a binge watch in the summer depending on what does (or indeed doesn't) happen.
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Old 01-12-2015, 10:47
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I think what a lot of you fail to understand is that in order for this show to survive, they do need to keep meeting new people, you can't kill off old characters unless you can replace them. Remember this is Rick's story. Everyone bar RIck is par for the course. Yes the show at some point, in the near future hopefully, will have everyone settled down and it will be more story based, most of you want zombie action every episode and that can't be sustained at all. This is a television show. Television shows rely on characters, characters that all act, speak, and react differently to one another.

This is what The Walking Dead truly is. The zombies are just a vehicle, the show does not revolve around them. No different than The Big Bang Theory using student life as a vehicle or Only Fools and Horses with market traders living from one day to the next. That's just your vehicle, it's not about the vehicle, it is only there to put your characters in a certain living situation with various characters around them and we get to see how they live day to day. For those of you that are banging on about wanting more violence and zombies, go read the comics or watch some horror movies to get your blood fix, if this show was to only be about violence it would get old very quickly and I guarantee all of you would feel the same way. The reason this kind of storytelling needs to be done is because this is what ultimately gets you to care about the characters. People keep talking about season 1. What they are doing with these people in Alexandria is not a whole lot different to what was done in season 1 but you all still found your favourites right?

No one forced Daryl down your throat but he became this legend in the show by nothing more than pure character development and so many people clung on to him and he's their hero. Nothing different than what you see now. Change is inevitable and maybe by the end of this season or season 7 some of these new comers might become a fan favourite of yours but in order to do that time has to be spent telling their story to you because at the end of the day the world will always be full of zombies. There will always be bad guys, there will always be a need to go on a food run or a medical supply run, there will always be new people that need to be taught how to use guns or face the reality of the situation. All these things will never change but what can change are the people we see and their interactions and how they get along and how relationships are forged and the impact we experience when we lose people along the way. That's the part that should keep you watching and it seems that by most of you loving the season 1 cast only, maybe it is possible for you to care about other characters.
Great post.
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Old 01-12-2015, 11:01
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My comment on Carol was surrounding the fact she seemed rather clumsy at the beginning, falling over her feet etc, unless this was part of her plan to get into Morgan's place

The biggest surprise for me was Carl and how he handled that little snot Ron. When he commented that Ron's dad was a bit of an a**hole.
Ah fair enough I misinterpreted what you wrote ... I don't think the fall was intentional though (to be honest I found the carol falling over and Maggie escape a little "forced") if it were any of the alexandrians I would have believed it but two of our hardcore survivors ?

I was more surprised he didn't rat him out but then Rick might have upped and killed him as well
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Old 01-12-2015, 11:02
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all these disasters stem from ricks stupid decision to lure the thousands of walkers out of the quarry instead of torching them there. he seems to make a lot of bad decisions that cost lives. also he has the group and the alexandrians running around doing dangerous stunts that get a lot of them killed when they could be out scouting for supplies and potential enemies or recruits like aaron did the reconnisance when he wanted ricks group to join.
I agree. Fair enough, the zombies were eventually going to get out of the quarry, but they obviously had the materials and the know-how to build another barrier to keep them in because they did precisely that several miles down the road. Agree with all the people tripping and injuring themselves. Agree with how improbable it was that they were all suddenly surrounded by walkers coming from all directions - there was only one breach in the barrier and they easily all had a few hundred yards start on the walkers who tend to mill around a lot before deciding what to do.
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Old 01-12-2015, 11:23
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Ah fair enough I misinterpreted what you wrote ... I don't think the fall was intentional though (to be honest I found the carol falling over and Maggie escape a little "forced") if it were any of the alexandrians I would have believed it but two of our hardcore survivors ?

I was more surprised he didn't rat him out but then Rick might have upped and killed him as well
I know. I was just sitting there shaking my head at how stilly they were. Though by the looks of things there aren't very many Alexandrians left.

In my mind, Carl shows more common sense than Morgan has in his little finger. Yes, Carl respects life, but when push comes to shove and its kill or be killed he will pull that trigger. He was letting Ron know that in no uncertain terms
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Old 01-12-2015, 11:59
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Carl has become one of my favourite characters. He's generally the one making the most sense and doing what needs to be done whilst still being a kid when he gets the chance.
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