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What did Austin's Mum Do to Go to Prison?
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BlueStreak
21-09-2015
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“It could be I suppose but it would be a harsh legal system that locked up a woman for accidentally or even negligently killing her own child. You would expect a suspended sentence in those circumstances wouldn't you? On the grounds that she has buried her child, the ultimate price and no further punishment can serve any purpose you wouldn't think imprisoning her would be in the public interest.”

I think she stole over $600,000. Nothing to do with his brothers accident. I may be wrong Anth. Don't quote me.

Supercalifragil
21-09-2015
Hm. Surely there's more to the story? So mum embezzles $600k+ to pay off Austin's debts and he throws her in jail?

And the torrent of abuse he lashed at Janice? Projection, the lot of it.

With that level of anger and mental 'disarray', he needs psychiatric treatment and should have been removed from the house straightaway to get it started. That's one seriously messed up individual who should not be 'used' by any TV channel for the purposes of 'entertainment'.
ForGodsSake
21-09-2015
Originally Posted by Tony_Daniels:
“He's clearly dealing with a lot. It's a shame that some people here don't really often consider the human aspect of it. Austin by his own admission has been a complete ass to many people but sometimes pain makes us like that. On here people just see them as a character to be called "vile" or "bully" or "scum" depending on whatever latest highlight package they've seen.

It's one of the most disappointing things about the age of forums and social media, it's the dehumanisation of people and the rush to label everyone something or other based on selective highlights of a television show, as if they're all characters.

Yes Austin as an aggressive d*ckhead this evening but the man was in the diary room getting upset about pent-up pain in regards to his mother going to prison and his brother dying, and you come on here and see people insinuating that he was making it all up, that he wasn't upset or hurt at all. It really is unbelievable how some people lack any kind of empathy with human emotion.”

I think in some cases it's like the boy that cried wolf.
He says so many things that when he really needs support,they don't believe him.

Being nasty, like he was to Janice isn't because "he's hurting", it's because he's nasty.
MistyEyes321
21-09-2015
Originally Posted by Tony_Daniels:
“He's clearly dealing with a lot. It's a shame that some people here don't really often consider the human aspect of it. Austin by his own admission has been a complete ass to many people but sometimes pain makes us like that. On here people just see them as a character to be called "vile" or "bully" or "scum" depending on whatever latest highlight package they've seen.

It's one of the most disappointing things about the age of forums and social media, it's the dehumanisation of people and the rush to label everyone something or other based on selective highlights of a television show, as if they're all characters.

Yes Austin as an aggressive d*ckhead this evening but the man was in the diary room getting upset about pent-up pain in regards to his mother going to prison and his brother dying, and you come on here and see people insinuating that he was making it all up, that he wasn't upset or hurt at all. It really is unbelievable how some people lack any kind of empathy with human emotion.”

Austin is no different now than he was on the first night he has been consistent in his behaviour,
He is no more Offensive in tonight's episode than he has been throughout this series..

The only difference now is that James didn't realise Austin was popular until Friday night, James has since gone into game mode & is doing his best to get Austin to blow up so Austin will lose votes.

Austin was out of order tonight granted but he has been out of order several times with Farrah & that was all good? James didn't have a problem with that now did he?

Also I cannot believe Janice binned his letter from home in light of what Austin revealed tonight she along with the other housemates would have been well aware how much it meant to him. So that was Cruel of Janice & again James stuck up for Janice knowing this!
sutie
21-09-2015
Originally Posted by little legs:
“He really shouldnt have applied to go on CBB if he wasn't in the right state of mind surely ?”



Judging by what we see on these programmes, that would apply to half the contestants.
sutie
21-09-2015
Originally Posted by Supercalifragil:
“Hm. Surely there's more to the story? So mum embezzles $600k+ to pay off Austin's debts and he throws her in jail?

And the torrent of abuse he lashed at Janice? Projection, the lot of it.

With that level of anger and mental 'disarray', he needs psychiatric treatment and should have been removed from the house straightaway to get it started. That's one seriously messed up individual who should not be 'used' by any TV channel for the purposes of 'entertainment'.”




What do you mean - 'He throws her in jail?' How could he have done that? The judiciary did that, surely?
Fanntastik
21-09-2015
Originally Posted by Tony_Daniels:
“He's clearly dealing with a lot. It's a shame that some people here don't really often consider the human aspect of it. Austin by his own admission has been a complete ass to many people but sometimes pain makes us like that. On here people just see them as a character to be called "vile" or "bully" or "scum" depending on whatever latest highlight package they've seen.

It's one of the most disappointing things about the age of forums and social media, it's the dehumanisation of people and the rush to label everyone something or other based on selective highlights of a television show, as if they're all characters.

Yes Austin as an aggressive d*ckhead this evening but the man was in the diary room getting upset about pent-up pain in regards to his mother going to prison and his brother dying, and you come on here and see people insinuating that he was making it all up, that he wasn't upset or hurt at all. It really is unbelievable how some people lack any kind of empathy with human emotion.”

I couldn't care less what he has been through. Nothing and I repeat, NOTHING, justifies, excuses, or even explains the way he treated Janice tonight. Plenty of people go through awful things in life but do not turn out to be bullies. There is nothing dehumanizing about calling a spade a spade. Even if Austin had a perfect life, he would still be the most viscous, malignant person in that house. If he has got so many issues to sort out then he should have rejected the £££ and seen a therapist instead of going on a Z-list reality show. I have no sympathy for a man whose behaviour is so inexcusable.
Teddybear99
22-09-2015
Originally Posted by Tony_Daniels:
“He's clearly dealing with a lot. It's a shame that some people here don't really often consider the human aspect of it. Austin by his own admission has been a complete ass to many people but sometimes pain makes us like that. On here people just see them as a character to be called "vile" or "bully" or "scum" depending on whatever latest highlight package they've seen.

It's one of the most disappointing things about the age of forums and social media, it's the dehumanisation of people and the rush to label everyone something or other based on selective highlights of a television show, as if they're all characters.

Yes Austin as an aggressive d*ckhead this evening but the man was in the diary room getting upset about pent-up pain in regards to his mother going to prison and his brother dying, and you come on here and see people insinuating that he was making it all up, that he wasn't upset or hurt at all. It really is unbelievable how some people lack any kind of empathy with human emotion.”

Thank you for saying this, I totally agree, and it is one of the reasons I rarely join in on this forum anymore.
Sasparella
22-09-2015
Originally Posted by Teddybear99:
“Thank you for saying this, I totally agree, and it is one of the reasons I rarely join in on this forum anymore.”

If this had all happened this year, or even last year then I'd agree that he should be sympathised with, but this all happened in March 2013 and the newspaper story about his mothers' sentence stated that, all that month that it happened (his mother's trial and sentencing) all his tweets ignored all that and were all about him, and his husband not being able to come to the US, not a mention of his mother even once. So I find it rather hard to be convinced that his being nasty to people is because he's upset about his mother all of a sudden, two and a half years later.
wildpark
22-09-2015
Originally Posted by Sasparella:
“If this had all happened this year, or even last year then I'd agree that he should be sympathised with, but this all happened in March 2013 and the newspaper story about his mothers' sentence stated that, all that month that it happened (his mother's trial and sentencing) all his tweets ignored all that and were all about him, and his husband not being able to come to the US, not a mention of his mother even once. So I find it rather hard to be convinced that his being nasty to people is because he's upset about his mother all of a sudden, two and a half years later.”

He is a narcissist. That he turns the death of his brother in a car accident, and the imprisonment of his mother for theft, into a pity party for himself (to justify his absurd rage against Chloe and his vicious verbal assault of Janice) is entirely characteristic.
missfrizzy
22-09-2015
Originally Posted by Tony_Daniels:
“He's clearly dealing with a lot. It's a shame that some people here don't really often consider the human aspect of it. Austin by his own admission has been a complete ass to many people but sometimes pain makes us like that. On here people just see them as a character to be called "vile" or "bully" or "scum" depending on whatever latest highlight package they've seen.

It's one of the most disappointing things about the age of forums and social media, it's the dehumanisation of people and the rush to label everyone something or other based on selective highlights of a television show, as if they're all characters.

Yes Austin as an aggressive d*ckhead this evening but the man was in the diary room getting upset about pent-up pain in regards to his mother going to prison and his brother dying, and you come on here and see people insinuating that he was making it all up, that he wasn't upset or hurt at all. It really is unbelievable how some people lack any kind of empathy with human emotion.”

I dont care how upset he is. The way he disrespected a woman old enough to be his grandmother, the things he said to her and the names he called her were just unforgivable.
His language, his tone of voice, his aggression, his spoilt brat entitlement, his self pitying, has made him an obnoxious, disgusting character.

A lot of people have lost a loved one, or had some tragedy or bad news in their family, does that give them the right to go around calling people c***s and bad mothers? What an a$$hole this man is. I can't believe some people are actually sticking up for him.
EnricoIV
22-09-2015
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“It could be I suppose but it would be a harsh legal system that locked up a woman for accidentally or even negligently killing her own child. You would expect a suspended sentence in those circumstances wouldn't you? On the grounds that she has buried her child, the ultimate price and no further punishment can serve any purpose you wouldn't think imprisoning her would be in the public interest.”

Though that's not what occurred here, the only way something like that would have happened had the mother been driving drunk or high, or possibly (but a more remote chance) if it was a child who was not restrained. She could then be charged with vehicular manslaughter.

In this case, she stole money. A lot of it. She went to prison.

His brother, was driving himself. None of the articles I saw ever resolved whether he was or not, but was suspected to have been driving drunk or high.
EnricoIV
22-09-2015
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“I think, with CBB, it's more a case of being invited rather than applying. It's income for them.”

He is so much a nobody, he has to have contacted them. Or had his "agent" do it.
theid
22-09-2015
"Did anyone catch the fact that Armacost received a stiffer sentence than Shamus Patton, the guy who shot 9 people at Black Expo in 2010 and got released early and re-arrested this week after a high-speed chase with police?"


The most interesting part of the article about his mother! Funny place, America. No wonder the citizens are unbalanced.
Jeanie
22-09-2015
Originally Posted by Fanntastik:
“I couldn't care less what he has been through. Nothing and I repeat, NOTHING, justifies, excuses, or even explains the way he treated Janice tonight. Plenty of people go through awful things in life but do not turn out to be bullies. There is nothing dehumanizing about calling a spade a spade. Even if Austin had a perfect life, he would still be the most viscous, malignant person in that house. If he has got so many issues to sort out then he should have rejected the £££ and seen a therapist instead of going on a Z-list reality show. I have no sympathy for a man whose behaviour is so inexcusable.”

Agreed. People have been through a hell of a lot worse than Austin, and they don't go through life being vile to others and expecting everyone to make excuses for them. He would get a lot more from others if he didn't have a self-righteous sense of entitlement.

As a wise person once said,

"Life is not about what happens to you, it's about how you deal with it."
Kittycat36
22-09-2015
Originally Posted by Tony_Daniels:
“He's clearly dealing with a lot. It's a shame that some people here don't really often consider the human aspect of it. Austin by his own admission has been a complete ass to many people but sometimes pain makes us like that. On here people just see them as a character to be called "vile" or "bully" or "scum" depending on whatever latest highlight package they've seen.

It's one of the most disappointing things about the age of forums and social media, it's the dehumanisation of people and the rush to label everyone something or other based on selective highlights of a television show, as if they're all characters.

Yes Austin as an aggressive d*ckhead this evening but the man was in the diary room getting upset about pent-up pain in regards to his mother going to prison and his brother dying, and you come on here and see people insinuating that he was making it all up, that he wasn't upset or hurt at all. It really is unbelievable how some people lack any kind of empathy with human emotion.”

well said
blue_angel
22-09-2015
Originally Posted by Tony_Daniels:
“He's clearly dealing with a lot. It's a shame that some people here don't really often consider the human aspect of it. Austin by his own admission has been a complete ass to many people but sometimes pain makes us like that. On here people just see them as a character to be called "vile" or "bully" or "scum" depending on whatever latest highlight package they've seen.

It's one of the most disappointing things about the age of forums and social media, it's the dehumanisation of people and the rush to label everyone something or other based on selective highlights of a television show, as if they're all characters.

Yes Austin as an aggressive d*ckhead this evening but the man was in the diary room getting upset about pent-up pain in regards to his mother going to prison and his brother dying, and you come on here and see people insinuating that he was making it all up, that he wasn't upset or hurt at all. It really is unbelievable how some people lack any kind of empathy with human emotion.”

Excellent post.
Kopite1763
22-09-2015
Originally Posted by Sasparella:
“If this had all happened this year, or even last year then I'd agree that he should be sympathised with, but this all happened in March 2013 and the newspaper story about his mothers' sentence stated that, all that month that it happened (his mother's trial and sentencing) all his tweets ignored all that and were all about him, and his husband not being able to come to the US, not a mention of his mother even once. So I find it rather hard to be convinced that his being nasty to people is because he's upset about his mother all of a sudden, two and a half years later.”

Two and a half years is no time at all.

My best friend was killed in car crash 21 years ago, because an idiot was driving recklessly ...I still get angry, upset and would happily give him a smack if I ever had the misfortune to come across him, for all the pain and hurt he has caused.
babygerle
22-09-2015
Originally Posted by Tony_Daniels:
“He's clearly dealing with a lot. It's a shame that some people here don't really often consider the human aspect of it. Austin by his own admission has been a complete ass to many people but sometimes pain makes us like that. On here people just see them as a character to be called "vile" or "bully" or "scum" depending on whatever latest highlight package they've seen.

It's one of the most disappointing things about the age of forums and social media, it's the dehumanisation of people and the rush to label everyone something or other based on selective highlights of a television show, as if they're all characters.

Yes Austin as an aggressive d*ckhead this evening but the man was in the diary room getting upset about pent-up pain in regards to his mother going to prison and his brother dying, and you come on here and see people insinuating that he was making it all up, that he wasn't upset or hurt at all. It really is unbelievable how some people lack any kind of empathy with human emotion.”


Thanks Daniel for your empathy and I know Austin raised his voice etc. but he is dealing with so much yet, not everyone wants to see this. Pent up pain with disloyal friends switching sides in that house was enough for his tears in the diary room. He is still a team player to me and a kind person considering shaving his hair for Gail. When pain makes you act up, you realise it and apologise which he did.
It would have been nice for James to see Austin's empathetic side, but ooohhh no, James had to quietly manipulate and switch between housemates because he is desperate to win

📣Austin & James in the final and Austin to beat James please📢
babygerle
22-09-2015
Originally Posted by babygerle:
“Thanks Daniel for your empathy and I know Austin raised his voice etc. but he is dealing with so much yet, not everyone wants to see this. Pent up pain with disloyal friends switching sides in that house was enough for his tears in the diary room. He is still a team player to me and a kind person considering shaving his hair for Gail. When pain makes you act up, you realise it and apologise which he did.
It would have been nice for James to see Austin's empathetic side, but ooohhh no, James had to quietly manipulate and switch between housemates because he is desperate to win

📣Austin & James in the final and Austin to beat James please📢”

Sorry, Tony Daniels even😎
wotnot
22-09-2015
Originally Posted by EnricoIV:
“I particularly like the way the articles refer to him : "a former reality TV character." Not a "star" and not a "celebrity." And "former." Lol.”

Former talent show 'losers', former comedian, former supermodel, former singer (or murderer of tunes as she is often referred to) ... and the list goes on, they wouldn't be on CBB iof they were current surely.
MissyGee
22-09-2015
Originally Posted by Tony_Daniels:
“He's clearly dealing with a lot. It's a shame that some people here don't really often consider the human aspect of it. Austin by his own admission has been a complete ass to many people but sometimes pain makes us like that. On here people just see them as a character to be called "vile" or "bully" or "scum" depending on whatever latest highlight package they've seen.

It's one of the most disappointing things about the age of forums and social media, it's the dehumanisation of people and the rush to label everyone something or other based on selective highlights of a television show, as if they're all characters.

Yes Austin as an aggressive d*ckhead this evening but the man was in the diary room getting upset about pent-up pain in regards to his mother going to prison and his brother dying, and you come on here and see people insinuating that he was making it all up, that he wasn't upset or hurt at all. It really is unbelievable how some people lack any kind of empathy with human emotion.”

As others have said, an excellent post.

However as we go back to the basics of human emotion, humanity and empathy, then it should also be noted that despite what's gone on with his family, his outburst of hatred and vitriol should not be acceptable either.

I was quite surprised at myself, how when watching that unfold, I was so horridly disgusted by the way he spoke to Janice. Then seeing him breakdown and watching him apologise, I just wanted to shout at the screen "someone go hug him!".

Bobby did, followed by "Nana". Natasha was also comforting him. Now that's humanity, to see how distressed he was and act on it with comfort and kindness.

Again despite what's gone on with him, his behaviour was disturbing. Do we forgive? I do as he clearly has problems. But is it acceptable - hell no. He needs help.
Darcyprincess
22-09-2015
Originally Posted by Tony_Daniels:
“He's clearly dealing with a lot. It's a shame that some people here don't really often consider the human aspect of it. Austin by his own admission has been a complete ass to many people but sometimes pain makes us like that. On here people just see them as a character to be called "vile" or "bully" or "scum" depending on whatever latest highlight package they've seen.

It's one of the most disappointing things about the age of forums and social media, it's the dehumanisation of people and the rush to label everyone something or other based on selective highlights of a television show, as if they're all characters.

Yes Austin as an aggressive d*ckhead this evening but the man was in the diary room getting upset about pent-up pain in regards to his mother going to prison and his brother dying, and you come on here and see people insinuating that he was making it all up, that he wasn't upset or hurt at all. It really is unbelievable how some people lack any kind of empathy with human emotion.”

Yes I agree, his breakdown was heartbreaking and had me in tears, that was definitely real and how people cannot show some compassion for somebody that is hurting and showing such pain I don't know. Kudos to Natasha, Bobby and Sherrie for comforting him when he was so distressed!
Darcyprincess
22-09-2015
Originally Posted by MissyGee:
“As others have said, an excellent post.

However as we go back to the basics of human emotion, humanity and empathy, then it should also be noted that despite what's gone on with his family, his outburst of hatred and vitriol should not be acceptable either.

I was quite surprised at myself, how when watching that unfold, I was so horridly disgusted by the way he spoke to Janice. Then seeing him breakdown and watching him apologise, I just wanted to shout at the screen "someone go hug him!".

Bobby did, followed by "Nana". Natasha was also comforting him. Now that's humanity, to see how distressed he was and act on it with comfort and kindness.

Again despite what's gone on with him, his behaviour was disturbing. Do we forgive? I do as he clearly has problems. But is it acceptable - hell no. He needs help.”

Exactly this and exactly how I feel! No it's not acceptable and he most definitely needs help for his problems, counselling and anger management. I hope he gets it!
Salv*
22-09-2015
I personally don't think this is a reason to dislike Austin.

We all know im Team James and thought his nom of Austin was deserved as he was being very nasty to people.

BUT I don't think whatever his Mum did should be a justifiable reason to bash him.
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