I didn't know who Austin was before this show and yes his choice of words has been pretty harsh especially towards Janice. As I said earlier, I do think he is projecting his anger and frustrations on to Janice because there is a connection there. I am not justifying it, just trying to understand why he aims everything in her direction.

The show you refer to may well have been before losing his brother and his mother's imprisonment, but he also said how he envied his husbands strong loving family so I think his issues stem from the environment he was raised in. Losing his brother and then his mum going to prison have compounded his issues and the BB house will definitely bring that to the surface.



I think you're right about Farrah and people did try to push her into talking about what has happened for her to create the steely exterior. I actually admire the fact that she didn't break down and tell all, it is her business and something to dscuss in private.

Having said that, had she succumbed to the constant badgering from certain hms then her treatment in there may well have been better. I also think whilst she may have a vicious mouth on her, she was constantly getting (verbally) attacked from day one and I did feel sorry for her at times.

Austin again has been vicious too, and c**t being the swear word I detest the most but I did feel his tears were genuine in the DR. I was also surprised that Bobby was first to comfort him whilst his best friend in the house just sat back showing no concern at all. James was probably thinking, "wtf, stop crying you might stay now and ruin all my hard work," ... just a thought.

The tears he cried may well have been genuine but they came out of self pity. He knew he'd gone too far. He acted exactly like a toddler in a tantrum. Grizzle gutting his way out of it.

Me too. He behaved just like a Toddler having a tantrum, when he realised his temper wasn't working , he switchedto tears over his Brother. He did not fool me.

He was hilarious. None of that was real. I have no respect for someone who uses his dead brother to win a game show.

If his tears weren't real then he deserves an Oscar.

During the show (before the meltdown) I made a flippant comment that Austin had some mother issues. He obviously does. Whether he feels guilty that she is in jail or that she let him down but I suspect that is why he is so angry with Janice all the time. She supports CJ but not Austin? I don't know, playing amateur psyche here ...

I don't think his new found friendship with Jenna helps. She feeds his anger. James has a much more calming effect on Austin. Its no coincidence that Austin was much nicer and calmer when he was hanging out with the Brits.

It was sad to hear him say he was jealous of his husbands perfect family. I hope his husband can encourage him to get some help.

I do feel for him but it doesn't excuse his behaviour.

Yes, very insightful. They may be reality experts but they still have emotions that come out that they can't control or even understand.

Apologies, I interpreted your question about the different reactions as implying there was a double standard at play. But if it was simply an observation, then I'm sorry for reading you wrong. I was at a funeral yesterday so not in the best mood.

that was so fake clearly he needs more acting lessons

A very perceptive post.

I can't believe the cynicism of people saying Austin was acting. Even Judi Dench isn't that good. That was REAL.

Also, those people investing Janice with qualities of caring and understanding are simply fooling themselves. Janice cares about Janice. Period. (As she would say). We'll see whether Chloe Jasmine gets even so much as a backward glance, when Janice jets back to America.

I believe he feels pain but uses it to his advantage.
His diary room rant was proof of this to me.

He knew he'd gone too far with his awful rant at Janice ,that all the housemates were disagreeing with him and thought he was going to be thrown out, hence the tears (or lack of them).

Austin. What a big self pitying baby of a man.

He took all his rage and anger out on Janice because James nominated him, then when Natasha stood up to him, and he realised he had gone too far, his only option was to go into the diary room and do damage limitation by playing for sympathy, again with his dead brother, and also throwing his mother into the mix too.

What a horrible individual, he should have been thrown out for the obnoxious things he said to Janice. I know she is no angel, but she is old enough to be his grandmother, and as for calling her the C word...............

Of course it was self pity. He made that clear surely. Did you think he'd break down like that over calling Janice a few names? I certainly would have been sceptical if that was the issue.

He was crying for himself after revealing all his loss and pain. He did realise he'd gone too far and that what what he said wasn't warranted or fair and he apologised honestly I thought for that.

Austin had a strange home life, well strange to me anyway. There's an article in the Mirror online but I can't do the link. Seemingly every time he took a shower his mother walked in on him. There were times when his father would be naked in the jacuzzi while his mother was naked powdering her t...s and the door open while Austin was using the toilet. Austin claimed there was nothing incestuous and that they embraced nudity. I was painfully shy as a child and even today some of that shyness remains. I couldn't have coped at all living like that.

Hope that helps

Thank you very much xynaria.

I am generally astounded if Austin was faking in the diary room after he was called there after going too far over Janice.

My impression was that it was genuine even if it he seemed a little bit too self aware and sure of what was causing his bad behaviour as if it was an acceptable excuse that he keeps ready to deploy on the occasions when he has gone too far.

If he knows he has the issue he needs to sort it out rather than depend on it to excuse his unacceptable behaviour.

Apart from the letter incident I have no idea what had made Austin so crazy with rage over Janice anyway but edited or not he needs to keep control.

As for the smartarses on here who are so certain that his Diary room breakdown is all an act.......I don't know what to suggest because I can't relate to people who aren't capable of empathy ( regardless of how they feel about a person)unless of course they have a recognised medical condition.

Thread should be called Austin is a pain.

I have had him sussed from the start as a nasty little boy who if he does not get his own way throws all his toys out of his pram.
He is a horrible little individual and has been all they way through. I think that he is just as vile as Farrah and the only reason that his nastiness didn't come that much to the forefront early on is that everyone was concentrating on just how vile Farrah was.

All his issues revolve round him as in "me me me" . In his sad little mind everything should be all about him and go the way he wants it to, If anything happens to diversify from that path he has a hissy. I think the rest of the housemates should be applauded for the compassion that they are showing towards him when really he deserves a good smack.

There's been plenty of posts on Austin, so I may have missed it, but has anyone mentioned his first argument with Janice? When she was so patronising towards him about gay rights and how young he is? I wouldn't be surprised if it all stems from that, with the rest of her - quite a lot of the time selfish - actions all being tiny straws that all eventually broke the camel's back.

Responsibility doesn't seem to come into it all for Saint James, who has convictions for assault, including biting someone. Yet no-one's trying to justify what he's done on here. It's a case of ignoring it. I've intentionally referenced it about five times today and all those castigating Austin and deifying James just ignore it.

And before you say it didn't happen in the house; I'm quite aware of that. I don't really care when or where it happened. He's a thug. He's playing a blinder and is almost certainly going to win. But it remains that the real thug in that house isn't one of 'the Americans' as DS posters so charmingly call them.



Do you ever stop to wonder why those were the Americans that were selected to take part in a US versus UK themed CBB, hmm?

God almighty, can people really be THAT blind to manipulation?

That, and the fascination with the 'bromance'.

He's a very insecure, angry control freak dealing (badly) with all sorts of issues.

He's shown that he has very fixed ideas about how people should be and reacts badly when they fail to fall in line with those ideas. Possibly because he's had a bit of an erratic homelife, he seems, from the tasks in particular, to take real comfort in rules and structure and reacts badly when those are threatened.

Janice is the polar opposite of that and lives entirely by the Dickinson book of rules. I don't think it's Janice that he's angry at, more that Janice's flouting of the rules and general apparent lack of care for the things that Austin sees - needs - as vital to keeping him 'stable' is bringing out all his own insecurities. I think fear accounts for a lot of his OTT uncontrollable rage.

Ditto re James who 'broke' Austin's rules by not behaving in the way that Austin needs people who claim to be his friend behaved, with no concession to how he himself was behaving since all he could see was the 'rule-break'.

No offense, but it's apples and oranges. I never knew that James had a reputation for being a thug even so how is that even relevant to Austin aggressive outbursts?

Austin may have gone through some harrowing life experiences but doesn't give him the right to abuse or take out that frustration on someone else's. Any sympathy or understanding I personally have for someone and their experiences goes straight out the window as soon as they start attacking others for no valid reason.

Austin is a pain. a massive pain

Far more than a wee bit but rather a massive amount ..his frustration was building up like crazy when James was with Jenna during the task. I'm surprised many haven't said more about this.


Oh there's no doubt in my mind that they were chosen because they were so up their own rectums but the biggest problem with Brits and Americans is that they speak the same language so both parties think they are in similar cultures and they are not at all, they are poles apart, far more than say Britain and the rest of Europe and that leads to vast misunderstandings.

The bib is irrelevant to this discussion because James hasn't behaved like that in the house and this thread is about Austin's despicable behaviour