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How awful was the train station scene in EE?
I have a plethora of issues
1 - Charlie working out Roxy was working with Ronnie seemed weak. 2 - Roxy standing looking at Charlie when she could easily have jumped the barrier, same when Ronnie arrived 3 - Running like headless chickens rather than check which platform the next train would arrive at 4 - Charlie leaving the waiting room before the train pulled into the station and then being seen by Ronnie 5 - Roxy (the more able bodied one) standing on the far platform while Ronnie recites a monologue 6 - The staff member knowing Ronnie/Roxy searching for a baby being taken on a train but not even holding the train for a minute till they got across the bridge. It was all pure amateur hour. Just a joke, they could have made that whole Charlie doing a runner thing far more gripping. |
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Agree it was all awful, exits have been really poor lately Lola, Cindy and Liam, Aleks all really weak EE used to do great exits.
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My main gripe with it all was Charlie leaving the baby after everything. He seemed so determined and sure of his reasons - Matthew wasn't safe with Ronnie. So why would he leave Matthew with her in the end when he could've gotten on the train? Yes, he would've gotten into trouble perhaps but he is the baby's father - it could have been easily swung.
What I truly wanted was a call from Charlie to Ronnie at the end of the episode. I loved this coupling at the very beginning, but as I said in another thread Charlie got a bit dull and him and Ronnie were never going to last. I just wanted him to call her and say "I did love you once, and I know you'd never hurt Matthew, so look after him". His change of mind seemed too quick. |
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Also how do they do the divorce papers, she has no idea where he's going?
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and where did he get the fake ticket from? The one he gave to Rox, that would not let her through?
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Maybe he asked the ticket seller "give us one that won't work"
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My main gripe with it all was Charlie leaving the baby after everything. He seemed so determined and sure of his reasons - Matthew wasn't safe with Ronnie. So why would he leave Matthew with her in the end when he could've gotten on the train? Yes, he would've gotten into trouble perhaps but he is the baby's father - it could have been easily swung.
What I truly wanted was a call from Charlie to Ronnie at the end of the episode. I loved this coupling at the very beginning, but as I said in another thread Charlie got a bit dull and him and Ronnie were never going to last. I just wanted him to call her and say "I did love you once, and I know you'd never hurt Matthew, so look after him". His change of mind seemed too quick. |
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and where did he get the fake ticket from? The one he gave to Rox, that would not let her through?
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I didn't even understand what Ronnie's initial plan was. She was going to let Charlie escape so far, and then Roxy would bring Matthew back? Why not just stop him from taking Matthew in the first place
![]() The whole fake ticket thing was silly, as was the running around the station. Poorly scripted, poorly acted, poorly shot. It felt like a Newman era episode. |
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Some of the camera work was dreadful, too.
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I don't think it was as bad as people made out. There was a lack of 'energy' and 'threat' but IMO the blame lies with the director on that. I have never heard of the episodes director before so maybe he was new? It needed to be shot tighter than it was.
What was missing was we needed a build up between Ronnie and Matthew because it lacked the same emotion to when Danielle died and James died. That is because it failed flat because we never see any scenes between them. If Ronnie has not bonded then this should have been explained. What they put together was a half arsed script because other storylines were getting the main focus like the Lucy trial. They need to invest in a character like Ronnie for it to work. Stacey and Ronnie are both a shadow of their former selves and seem sidelined for a too long Lucy plot and the ongoing secrets with the Carters - whos storylines are analysed with indepth detail all the time. |
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I don't understand the plan either. Let them go but then meet them there and stop them?
Roxy just standing there whilst Ronnie poured her heart was actually quite comical. Was half expecting somebody to just jump in front of a train at this stage and action roll across the rails before drop kicking Charlie in the chest. |
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I think the plan was to go to the airport? Ronnie said Richie was waiting with a court order So Charlie was to be arrested for taking Matthew.
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I have a plethora of issues
1 - Charlie working out Roxy was working with Ronnie seemed weak. 2 - Roxy standing looking at Charlie when she could easily have jumped the barrier, same when Ronnie arrived 3 - Running like headless chickens rather than check which platform the next train would arrive at 4 - Charlie leaving the waiting room before the train pulled into the station and then being seen by Ronnie 5 - Roxy (the more able bodied one) standing on the far platform while Ronnie recites a monologue 6 - The staff member knowing Ronnie/Roxy searching for a baby being taken on a train but not even holding the train for a minute till they got across the bridge. It was all pure amateur hour. Just a joke, they could have made that whole Charlie doing a runner thing far more gripping. Ronnie able to do all that running, up and down steps too ![]() It was absolute crap, but then I think all scenes that involve Ronnie are crap. |
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It was surprisingly poor. Oh well.
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Charlie should have taken Matthew, and just left the baby seat there.
Let Ronnie suffer. |
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I thought Charlie would have worked it out when hearing Ronnie's message and she mentioned taking them to France - how did she know?! But no, he didn't even listen to it.
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I don't understand the plan either. Let them go but then meet them there and stop them?
Roxy just standing there whilst Ronnie poured her heart was actually quite comical. Was half expecting somebody to just jump in front of a train at this stage and action roll across the rails before drop kicking Charlie in the chest. ) so I can only assuming that Charlie would have been arrested
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Ronnie is a cold fish and Charlie should have scarpered with the baby. And as someone previously mentioned on this thread, how did she manage all that running up and down the stairs????
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I enjoyed it thanks. People are being a bit over the top about this episode
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Poor Matthew, stuck with Ronnie.
Hopefully eventually she will go to jail for the murder of Carl White, and Matthew will be handed over to Charlie. |
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Charlie should have taken Matthew, and just left the baby seat there.
Let Ronnie suffer. |
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Plethora, lovely word
![]() I agree the train scenes were quite poor and contained some SOR's, as you mentioned OP. I thought they were well acted nevertheless. I cant believe though after his desperation to get Matthew away from Ronnie, Charlie left him at the last hurdle because Ronnie compared him to Nick. |
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Some of the camera work was dreadful, too.
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Was half expecting somebody to just jump in front of a train at this stage and action roll across the rails before drop kicking Charlie in the chest. Also agree about the camera work, it looked like it was done off the cuff almost, like something from a live episode. |
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) so I can only assuming that Charlie would have been arrested

