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i read that wrong, i thought AJ odudu
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Is it reasonable that James betrays Austin and Jenna and then calls himself a "very loyal person"
Not at all. Then lets not forget the first person Jenna nominated was Austin when she moved to the room. AND, Jenna has always said "you should stay loyal to YOUR team" when she speaks about Team USA. Now that James was loyal to Team UK, she doesn't like it. |
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Exactly. And he nominated the 2 people who have cornered him and kicked off at him for no reason (and others).
I know I'd rather nom someone close to me if they have been an utter asshole to me and others over someone who has never had a disagreement with me. |
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What is his answer then?
Why did he decide to choose doing Chloe a favour over being loyal to a friend (Jenna) This is what they want to know, it's what they find suspicious, it's what James will not answer. |
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It's a game show where you nominate people for eviction.
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It says more about them than him imo. He nominated hid closest friends because even he could see how horrible they were
People then also forget that Sherrie nominated Bobby. Shouldn't they be "loyal" to each other? |
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As I have just posted, I find no reason why James should ever be loyal to Jenna when she has bitched about him over 20 times across the series, and said very bad things about him in the room.
![]() How you can blame Jenna for saying anything about anybody in the room of unreality, the room of false pretense. The room of bitchy provocation... Beyond me. And i'll give you a reason why you should expect loyalty from James to Jenna. A. He calls her a friend. B. He calls himself a loyal person. He's a tactical player salv and i'm quite sure you know this and quite sure you see the tactical advantage in hiding his tactics. Edit - I've just read your previous reply #27 |
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last night, as usual. If he wants them out, why doesn't he hang out with the people he's protecting like Chloe, Stevi, Bobby, Janice etc? Why don't people see that this is why Jenna and Austin were angry at the nomination. He enjoys their company, but in order to appease the public he nominates them.
James likes Austin and Jenna more than the other housemates But he doesn't want the public to judge him by the company he keeps, so he threw them under the bus to suck up to the viewers I can just picture him walking on't moors with that special person called his grandfather. A brace of rabbits on his back, the old man brings the whippets and ferrets to heel, takes off his flat cap, in which nests his favourite pigeon, puts his gnarled old hand, hardened from many years down't mine, on young Jim's shoulder. "Remember lad" he says, sagely, "there comes a time in life when a man has to sh*t on his mates if that's what it takes to get what he wants" |
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That about sums it up
James likes Austin and Jenna more than the other housemates But he doesn't want the public to judge him by the company he keeps, so he threw them under the bus to suck up to the viewers I can just picture him walking on't moors with that special person called his grandfather. A brace of rabbits on his back, the old man brings the whippets and ferrets to heel, takes off his flat cap, in which nests his favourite pigeon, puts his gnarled old hand, hardened from many years down't mine, on young Jim's shoulder. "Remember lad" he says, sagely, "there comes a time in life when a man has to sh*t on his mates if that's what it takes to get what he wants" ![]() Reminds me of this god awful commercial I saw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yEr2bXC15I IF their tagline is tweaked a little it could become James's new tagline. |
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Red Card referee!!!
![]() How you can blame Jenna for saying anything about anybody in the room of unreality, the room of false pretense. The room of bitchy provocation... Beyond me. And i'll give you a reason why you should expect loyalty from James to Jenna. A. He calls her a friend. B. He calls himself a loyal person. He's a tactical player salv and i'm quite sure you know this and quite sure you see the tactical advantage in hiding his tactics. ![]() As I have said, she is the person out of the whole house along with Farrah that bitched about him the most. A "friend" doesn't mean you can't nominate them when they have done something wrong. I'd nominate a friend if I thought they were being an asshole. I wouldn't want loyalty with people who act in a certain way. Austin and Jenna have calmed down now. Out of everyone, Jenna deserves the least loyalty from James in the house. As I said again, she has been awful behind his back. He doesn't even know 90% of the stuff she has said behind his back, I just don't know how people aren't seeing it. As for Austin, James would have been pretty dumb to think nominating his friend who was in the Top 4 was going to score points with the viewers, It's a stupid tactic. If I wanted to really win, I'd want to get support from the public by arguing with the people I knew were unpopular, not the people I knew were popular. That's a ridiculous thing to do So it proves he did it because he was annoyed at Austin, not because he wanted the public to say "YAYYY, he nominated his friend, he must win now".A huge majority of HMs in the past kick off with people they know are unpopular. As a HM said in the past (cant remember which series) "You need to be careful who you fight with, because if you row with the favourite to win, you are done" (I think it was BB6 Craig). If James wanted to get points from the public, he would have gone against the Bobby's, the Janice's and The Sherrie's knowing they weren't as popular. |
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Sorry, I don't get why he should be loyal to her out of all people
![]() As I have said, she is the person out of the whole house along with Farrah that bitched about him the most. A "friend" doesn't mean you can't nominate them when they have done something wrong. I'd nominate a friend if I thought they were being an asshole. I wouldn't want loyalty with people who act in a certain way. Austin and Jenna have calmed down now. Out of everyone, Jenna deserves the least loyalty from James in the house. As I said again, she has been awful behind his back. He doesn't even know 90% of the stuff she has said behind his back, I just don't know how people aren't seeing it. As for Austin, James would have been pretty dumb to think nominating his friend who was in the Top 4 was going to score points with the viewers, It's a stupid tactic. If I wanted to really win, I'd want to get support from the public by arguing with the people I knew were unpopular, not the people I knew were popular. That's a ridiculous thing to do So it proves he did it because he was annoyed at Austin, not because he wanted the public to say "YAYYY, he nominated his friend, he must win now".A huge majority of HMs in the past kick off with people they know are unpopular. As a HM said in the past (cant remember which series) "You need to be careful who you fight with, because if you row with the favourite to win, you are done" (I think it was BB6 Craig). If James wanted to get points from the public, he would have gone against the Bobby's, the Janice's and The Sherrie's knowing they weren't as popular. James knew as of Friday who were the top 4 and Austin was then his competition ....he wasn't going to nominate the Fakers as he saved Janice for them and he couldn't nominate the other Brit ...Natasha. |
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No matter what James did or how bad it was there will always be an excuse.
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That's the point , they are no competition for him.
James knew as of Friday who were the top 4 and Austin was then his competition ....he wasn't going to nominate the Fakers as he saved Janice for them and he couldn't nominate the other Brit ...Natasha. Getting rid of the competition is a bad move and always has been in BB. It doesn't score points with the public. Scoring points would be going for unpopular people. James would have to be very very dumb to get rid of people he knew were popular because that is not a good trait in a BBUK HM. That's why it's not what he was doing. Austin was being appalling, friend or not. I wouldn't let any friend speak to anyone like he has been. End of story
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I still don't understand why he nominates Austin then cuddles up to him in bed with his arms round him the next night, it doesn't make sense.
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I still don't understand why he nominates Austin then cuddles up to him in bed with his arms round him the next night, it doesn't make sense.
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I still don't understand why he nominates Austin then cuddles up to him in bed with his arms round him the next night, it doesn't make sense.
Austin got over James' nomination and James got over Austin' behaviour. That's what I like about them, yes it can be like WWIII at the time, but soon after, it's like nothing ever happened. Just like me and my sister, our rows and you wouldn't expect us to speak for months. Then she comes up to me and says something like "want to get some food". |
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Sorry, I don't get why he should be loyal to her out of all people
![]() As I have said, she is the person out of the whole house along with Farrah that bitched about him the most. A "friend" doesn't mean you can't nominate them when they have done something wrong. Quote:
I'd nominate a friend if I thought they were being an asshole. I wouldn't want loyalty with people who act in a certain way. Austin and Jenna have calmed down now. Their not the assholes he is Out of everyone, Jenna deserves the least loyalty from James in the house. As I said again, she has been awful behind his back. He doesn't even know 90% of the stuff she has said behind his back, I just don't know how people aren't seeing it. Like i said before all they want is the basis on which his decision to pick Janice was made. Their not asking for this: "because Chloe needed a grandpa figure" They are asking for an answer to this: Why do chloe a favour and not base your decision on friendship. That's the place they want to reach and the place James continuously retreats away from. Why? Is it because he would then have to explain he'd placed tactical advantage over friendship? Perhaps he'd have to explain that he doesn't really see Jenna as a friend despite tactically behaving that way. Quote:
As for Austin, James would have been pretty dumb to think nominating his friend who was in the Top 4 was going to score points with the viewers, It's a stupid tactic. If I wanted to really win, I'd want to get support from the public by arguing with the people I knew were unpopular, not the people I knew were popular. It's quite smart actually considering James knew the effect his nom would have on Austin. Austin has fallen hook line and sinker for James, Austin, like Farrah, is also hot headed and liable to explode under the subtlest of provocations. SCORE!!!That's a ridiculous thing to do So it proves he did it because he was annoyed at Austin, not because he wanted the public to say "YAYYY, he nominated his friend, he must win now".
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A huge majority of HMs in the past kick off with people they know are unpopular. As a HM said in the past (cant remember which series) "You need to be careful who you fight with, because if you row with the favourite to win, you are done" (I think it was BB6 Craig). Sound reasoning for the early stages sure, but not for this late stage, There can only be one winner, and at some point you have to tactically challenge the big dogs based on sound reasoning and evaluation of success. James has fashioned a wonderful position to score points off Austin, whilst at the same tim fashioning a wonderful position to look innocent of any wrong doing, although the cracks are plain to see. It's quite baffling how people don't want to see the cracks but plaster over them to aid him to victory If James wanted to get points from the public, he would have gone against the Bobby's, the Janice's and The Sherrie's knowing they weren't as popular.
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Is it reasonable that James betrays Austin and Jenna and then calls himself a "very loyal person"
Not at all. If you want to look at it another way - he was loyal to his team - I'd have thought Jenna at least would understand that. He hasn't fallen out with any of his team mates - he was ,,loyal to them. |
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James is hanging out with Austin like nothing happened, there's a pic on twitter of them cuddling on the bed a few minutes ago. They're over it, they realize this is just a game.
James can still adore Austin (he said Austin was his best friend in the same breath he nominated him), but he understands at the same time Austin has been on self destruct mode for a few days now. Believe it or not, maybe James actually did nominate Austin for his own good like Bobby said. |
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James is hanging out with Austin like nothing happened, there's a pic on twitter of them cuddling on the bed a few minutes ago. They're over it, they realize this is just a game.
James can still adore Austin (he said Austin was his best friend in the same breath he nominated him), but he understands at the same time Austin has been on self destruct mode for a few days now. Believe it or not, maybe James actually did nominate Austin for his own good like Bobby said. ... in what way would being evicted two days before the final be 'good' for Austin ?
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If Austin survives tonight James will be brown nosing him.
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See, I don't get that
... in what way would being evicted two days before the final be 'good' for Austin ? ![]() |
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That's rather dramatic IMO - he didn't 'betray' them - he nominated them.
If you want to look at it another way - he was loyal to his team - I'd have thought Jenna at least would understand that. He hasn't fallen out with any of his team mates - he was ,,loyal to them. |
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What is his answer then?
Why did he decide to choose doing Chloe a favour over being loyal to a friend (Jenna) This is what they want to know, it's what they find suspicious, it's what James will not answer. |
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If Austin survives tonight James will be brown nosing him.
My hope is that Austin stays (not to win as he's an arse) and exposes James for the weasel he is - without shouting but by more subtle techniques (if he has it in him). |
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Like i said before all they want is the basis on which his decision to pick Janice was made. Their not asking for this: "because Chloe needed a grandpa figure" They are asking for an answer to this: Why do chloe a favour and not base your decision on friendship.