Results:Who are your favourite units? [MULTIPLE CHOICE]
Osbornes - Jack, Frankie, Nancy, Esther, Charlie, Jade, Tom, Oscar
Roscoe/Butterfield - Jason, Joe, Lindsey, Freddie, Robbie, Kim, Mercedes
Savage/Cunningham - Dirk, Cindy, Holly
Lomax/Roscoe - Tegan, Leela, Ziggy, Peri
McQueen - Pete, Reenie, Porsche, Celine, Cleo, Myra, Nana, Theresa, Kathleen Angel
Loveday - Simone, Louis, Zack, Sonia
Blake/Bradley - Sienna, Nico, Ben, Patrick
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Hollyoaks E4 Daily | 22/09/15 | 7:00 - Out In The Open
Originally Posted by
attitude99:
“Exactly but Reenie fails to realise this! 
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Yup, it's very sad. I wonder if Nana will believe Derek raped Reenie, now she's told her.
It also looks like Porsche going to make up with JP, which irritates me. The show is trying to make the scene between them comic, never mind the fact he betrayed her!!
Evening all
Not too bad so far.
By the way Mutant, you missed out Matthew from the McQueen's. Although I guess even John-Paul's forgotten about him!
Originally Posted by
Emma_Henvey:
“Since Reenie was raped by her mums boyfriend, it makes it all the more unbelievable the way she treated Porsche
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Originally Posted by NoughtiesMusic:
“Confusing how Reenie doesn't believe Porsche and is turning a blind eye to the way Pete is grooming Celine and Cleo. Despite her own experience at the hands of Derek.”
It is confusing and makes no sense. Even if she didn't want to believe her daughter was abused like she was surely she would have more sympathy to Porsche?
Originally Posted by
Marianne_321:
“BIB Er...... that's a fine goal to have?
*Madness crosses her fingers behind her back & has gone a funny shade of green at having said that* 
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Aww! Are you jealous?

Some really good performances tonight by Zoe Lucker & Diane Langton.
Originally Posted by
cfc86:
“Have you been on Wonky's booze? 
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Oi!
You lot promised to stay out of my cupboard
And Marlena is in denial. It's like a vicious cycle with the McQueens
So Nana won't belive Reenie either!!!
What ever happened to Marlena's other daughter Kathleen?
Originally Posted by
Marianne_321:
“So Nana won't belive Reenie either!!!
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I didn't expect her too really, considering Reenie didn't believe Porsche.
Originally Posted by Reo:
“I doubt I will have any sympathy for Reenie if the truth is that she was abused. It's not just because she is being a hypocrite considering the way she treated Porsche, but also the abuse storyline has been so overused in that family.”
I agree, what makes it all the more shocking is that Pete did admit that he kissed Porsche. It's not a case of he said, she said. Reenie basically accused Porsche of leading Pete on and trying to break her and Pete up. She basically called her daughter was a slapper after Porsche told her Pete abused her
Nana, JP, Reenie, Porsche, and Cleo have all been sexually abused
Nana's reaction to Reenie saying she was raped. At least we know where Reenie got it from with her reaction to Porsche
Why can't Reenie and Nana put two plus two plus two plus two together and work out the truth about Reenie/Derek and Pete/Porsche?
Especially considering John-Paul, Nana, Cleo, Phoebe, Celine and Jacqui's precious abuse.
Originally Posted by Marianne_321:
“Yup, it's very sad. I wonder if Nana will believe Derek raped Reenie, now she's told her.
It also looks like Porsche going to make up with JP, which irritates me. The show is trying to make the scene between them comic, never mind the fact he betrayed her!!”
Porsche should get over it. It's been a month
Originally Posted by
DJ Jimmy:
“Evening all 
Not too bad so far.
By the way Mutant, you missed out Matthew from the McQueen's. Although I guess even John-Paul's forgotten about him!
”
I'm impressed by how good the episode has been so far. My only complaint is how it's exactly like Reenie and Porsche. It's unbelievable how she's complaining her mum doesn't believe her when she's the same to her daughter.
Meanwhile Peter File cares not what is happening to his fiancee, as he is too busy trying to shag her daughter in a school ...
It's so sad how Cleo hasn't a clue about what Pete is doing to her
Originally Posted by
Emma_Henvey:
“I agree, what makes it all the more shocking is that Pete did admit that he kissed Porsche. It's not a case of he said, she said. Reenie basically accused Porsche of leading Pete on and trying to break her and Pete up. She basically called her daughter was a slapper after Porsche told her Pete abused her 
Nana, JP, Reenie, Porsche, and Cleo have all been sexually abused 
Nana's reaction to Reenie saying she was raped. At least we know where Reenie got it from with her reaction to Porsche
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Nana, JP, Reenie, Porsche Cleo, Jacqui and Phoebe. With Celine being mentally and emotionally abused.
It's too much for one family and I can't and don't feel any emotion for this episode.
So sad, so very sad. Vicious circle

Third generation being abused.
Originally Posted by cfc86:
“I'm impressed by how good the episode has been so far. My only complaint is how it's exactly like Reenie and Porsche. It's unbelievable how she's complaining her mum doesn't believe her when she's the same to her daughter.”
You're right. I think Cleo is the key in the story. As soon as she has the courage to reveal the truth, then the whole family will realise what's been happening all this time.
Originally Posted by
DJ Jimmy:
“Oi! 
You lot promised to stay out of my cupboard
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We made no such thing
Originally Posted by
NoughtiesMusic:
“And Marlena is in denial. It's like a vicious cycle with the McQueens
”
Originally Posted by
Marianne_321:
“So Nana won't belive Reenie either!!!
”
Originally Posted by attitude99:
“I didn't expect her too really, considering Reenie didn't believe Porsche.”
Unless this will lead Reenie finally believing Porsche and the storyline can move forward.
It's hard to feel sympathy for Reenie after the horrible way she treated Porsche. She says that Derek said things like she was asking for it and that she was leading him on, but when Porsche confessed to Reenie and even Pete admitted to kissing her. Reenie said because of the way Porsche dressed and the amount of boyfriends she had, she was basically leading him on
Zoe Lucker is fan bloody tastic
Really well acted Reenie/Nana scenes!!
At least Nana and Reenie are having a heart-to-heart, when Porsche revealed what happened with Pete there was an argument and forgotten the next day.
Originally Posted by oilcat:
“Zoe Lucker is fan bloody tastic”
These scenes are really good between Nana & Reenie.
When HO wants to be and when they use their best actors the episodes can be really good.
Originally Posted by DJ Jimmy:
“You're right. I think Cleo is the key in the story. As soon as she has the courage to reveal the truth, then the whole family will realise what's been happening all this time.”
Unless Nana and Reenie finally realise Porsche was telling the truth. I don't know whether Cleo sees what Pete is doing as abuse. Saying that I don't expect this to change everyone not believing Porsche.