Results:Who are your favourite units? [MULTIPLE CHOICE]
Osbornes - Jack, Frankie, Nancy, Esther, Charlie, Jade, Tom, Oscar
Roscoe/Butterfield - Jason, Joe, Lindsey, Freddie, Robbie, Kim, Mercedes
Savage/Cunningham - Dirk, Cindy, Holly
Lomax/Roscoe - Tegan, Leela, Ziggy, Peri
McQueen - Pete, Reenie, Porsche, Celine, Cleo, Myra, Nana, Theresa, Kathleen Angel
Loveday - Simone, Louis, Zack, Sonia
Blake/Bradley - Sienna, Nico, Ben, Patrick
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Hollyoaks E4 Daily | 22/09/15 | 7:00 - Out In The Open
Wowzers! What a great episode!
and unfortunately the ep ends with Porsche forgiving JP like I thought!!!
Well it makes sense why it seems Reenie doesn't like Porsche even before revealing Pete abused her.
That was a great episode. When HO can be bothered they can really impress. Hoping for more of the same tomorrow.
Twitter will probably not like it though. They like episodes we don't and dislike the ones we do like.
That JP and Porsche scene might have been good if JP hadn't betrayed Porsche by repeatedly sleeping with her husband and also if he hadn't turned his back on her when he found out about the abuse, it was clear she was lying.
Even though I hate that Porsche has forgiven JP, I would like to see Porsche has some support and fun.
Just going to repeat what I said earlier, there was no emotion from me with this episode, it's all too much, even adding in Porsche being born from that abuse doesn't make me sympathetic. It's overkill.
The sooner the Pete storyline is over the better, Cleo goes from a scared abused clearly pressured girl to acting like Pete's girlfriend who knows what she is doing.
Originally Posted by Ben_Hunt:
“Surely the better act of revenge would be for Nana to marry Derek and wait for him to die for the cash in. In soap terms, not an actual moral situation.
I find the Pete and Cleo thing so odd, like almost like an NSPCC rendition of abuse.”
Good idea .
Best episode in a while, mainly because of its simplicity.
Wholly focussed on the McQueen's, great scenes with Nana and Reenie in particular and history repeating itself with Pete and Cleo.
And not a ruddy Roscoe in sight.
Superb episode....see what happens when the people that can act are given the big storylines
They don't need to bury Derek in the wall, do they? It's a natural death. They just say they came downstairs and found him that way. No one's any the wiser. It's not like they bashed his skull in like Nico did Carly ...
I thought he might be the body in the wall after Nana and Reenie kill him, but now he seems to be dying of whatever illness he had, it wouldn't make sense for them to put him in the wall now.
I would like the body in the wall to be Kim or at least a main character, not a guest character. The idea of it is chilling, so it needs to be someone that has made a impact.
Really good episode.
I can kind of see why Reenie doesn't believe Porsche. She sees Pete as the one good thing that has ever happened to her and is so screwed up with her memories and alcohol that she is blinded to the truth. She probably just can't comprehend of history repeating itself in the same way.
Also, I think they alluded to the idea that one rape victim would automatically recognise another when it just isn't true. Reenie thought that Marlena never spotted it because she's never been raped but of course we know that she has. Likewise Reenie didn't see it in Porsche.
Originally Posted by cfc86:
“Well it makes sense why it seems Reenie doesn't like Porsche even before revealing Pete abused her.
That was a great episode. When HO can be bothered they can really impress. Hoping for more of the same tomorrow.
Twitter will probably not like it though. They like episodes we don't and dislike the ones we do like.”
Agree on all three there Chewy. Reenie always found it difficult to bond with Porsche as she was always a reminder of Derek
Twitter is a mixed bag, and the reaction seems 50/50 at the moment.
I hate this tweet though:
Originally Posted by Jags via Twitter:
“na hollyoaks needs to calm it tf down with the drama i can't be dealing with 20 cheating scandals and rape every episode”
Then again she's probably just a tweenager waiting for Harry to take his top off.
This episode along with the Loveday episode is what Hollyoaks should be doing.
EDIT: Changed my mind over the Twitter thing, there's more inane bollocks about Freddie and Lindsey or saying how messed up the show is rather than the praise this episode deserved.
Originally Posted by
attitude99:
“Can you both predict the future or something?! 
”
I just felt the story was going in that direction.

It seems Reenie's bad behaviour started thanks to the sexual abuse & witnessing Derek's physical abuse of Nana. It looks like that all contributed to her having the most problems with Porsche than her other daughters. Also Reenie's still in total denial that Pete could do the same to Porsche, looks like she won't allow herself to believe it.
I must say I'm really glad Nana believed Reenie in the end.
Originally Posted by
DJ Jimmy:
“Agree on all three there Chewy. Reenie always found it difficult to bond with Porsche as she was always a reminder of Derek 
Twitter is a mixed bag, and the reaction seems 50/50 at the moment.
I hate this tweet though: 
Then again she's probably just a tweenager waiting for Harry to take his top off.
This episode along with the Loveday episode is what Hollyoaks should be doing.”
The Loveday episode was excellent. Hollyoaks can really pull it out the bag sometimes, & that's really only happened about 4/5 times this year.
Originally Posted by NoughtiesMusic:
“I wish the writing for the McQueens could be this good all the time. Just get Mercedes away from the Roscoes, Porsche to stop yelling (she's a decent character otherwise) and keep Lockie away from them.”
Agreed. I'll always have a soft spot for the McQueens so I hope the writes give Porsche and Mercedes something to do other than shag and screech. Saying that I quite like Mercedes with Joe.
Originally Posted by seventhwave:
“Oh, Reenie
While I don't wish to make light of this storyline, Porsche was 24 this year. That means she was born in 1991. Why are they making out like it was the '60s or '70s where there was much more stigma against single mothers and girls had to go into Homes to have their babies?”
I think there will always be some kind of stigma against single mothers. Not as much but they still get criticised and called a slapper, whore, slut etc. At least round my way they are but it has everything you can think of and none of it is good.
Originally Posted by
Marianne_321:
“and unfortunately the ep ends with Porsche forgiving JP like I thought!!!
”
Let's hope she forgives Mercedes as easily.
Originally Posted by DJ Jimmy:
“Best episode in a while, mainly because of its simplicity.
Wholly focussed on the McQueen's, great scenes with Nana and Reenie in particular and history repeating itself with Pete and Cleo.
And not a ruddy Roscoe in sight.”
This is the HO I enjoy. Decent acting, emotional moments with a little comedy in between and an episode we can relate to. Why does the show insist on the crap they give us 90% of the time?
Originally Posted by seventhwave:
“They don't need to bury Derek in the wall, do they? It's a natural death. They just say they came downstairs and found him that way. No one's any the wiser. It's not like they bashed his skull in like Nico did Carly ...”
Or Mercedes and Cindy with Browning while Lindsey was in the background cheering them on.
It makes no sense to hide his body buy it could be a way to punish him after what he did. How I don't know but to understand I'd have to think like Kirkwood and no thank you.
How do these people get into school out of hours? It's impossible.....
Derek is creepy......

Originally Posted by DJ Jimmy:
“Best episode in a while, mainly because of its simplicity.
Wholly focussed on the McQueen's, great scenes with Nana and Reenie in particular and history repeating itself with Pete and Cleo.
And not a ruddy Roscoe in sight.”
It was good because the ep focused on the characters. No OTT reveal of Derek's abuse in the dog etc.... I wish the show was more like this all the time without so many public reveals. Those were powerful emotional scenes between Reenie & Nana.
YAY & snap, no Roscoes!!


If ever there was a cause to celebrate this is it?

Really liked the episode, seeing the cycle of abuse. It reminded me of the early days of the Blake storyline.
grouchy today, is hollyoaks worth watching
Originally Posted by ChelseaEllie:
“grouchy today, is hollyoaks worth watching”
YES, it is. Honestly it was a great episode.
Originally Posted by Reo:
“I thought he might be the body in the wall after Nana and Reenie kill him, but now he seems to be dying of whatever illness he had, it wouldn't make sense for them to put him in the wall now.
I would like the body in the wall to be Kim or at least a main character, not a guest character. The idea of it is chilling, so it needs to be someone that has made a impact.”
I'd like to put Nico forward to be in the wall.
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“Really good episode.
I can kind of see why Reenie doesn't believe Porsche. She sees Pete as the one good thing that has ever happened to her and is so screwed up with her memories and alcohol that she is blinded to the truth. She probably just can't comprehend of history repeating itself in the same way.
Also, I think they alluded to the idea that one rape victim would automatically recognise another when it just isn't true. Reenie thought that Marlena never spotted it because she's never been raped but of course we know that she has. Likewise Reenie didn't see it in Porsche.”
That's true. Of course not all rape victims recognise each other but with the McQueen family you'd think one person would pick up on it. Mind you nobody buy JP and Reenie knew about Nana.
Originally Posted by
DJ Jimmy:
“Agree on all three there Chewy. Reenie always found it difficult to bond with Porsche as she was always a reminder of Derek 
Twitter is a mixed bag, and the reaction seems 50/50 at the moment.
I hate this tweet though: 
Then again she's probably just a tweenager waiting for Harry to take his top off.
This episode along with the Loveday episode is what Hollyoaks should be doing.
EDIT: Changed my mind over the Twitter thing, there's more inane bollocks about Freddie and Lindsey or saying how messed up the show is rather than the praise this episode deserved.”
It is sad but you do read about rape victims who get pregnant not bonding with the baby due to the reminder.
Ugh! I detest twitter and the tweens. Just shows the type of vapid people on there that watch the show. It's sad they prefer topless boys and affairs.
Tonight, the Lovedays and Ste's diagnosis have been the standout episodes this year.
Originally Posted by
Marianne_321:
“I just felt the story was going in that direction.
It seems Reenie's bad behaviour started thanks to the sexual abuse & witnessing Derek's physical abuse of Nana. It looks like that all contributed to her having the most problems with Porsche than her other daughters. Also Reenie's still in total denial that Pete could do the same to Porsche, looks like she won't allow herself to believe it.
I must say I'm really glad Nana believed Reenie in the end.”
I would never have thought of it until a couple of posts earlier. It will be interesting if the relationship between Reenie and Porsche will change or if she'll continue to push her away.
This is the HO I wish we could have every night. Good acting, good writing and brilliant all round. It's frustrating when we have the drivel we normally get.
Originally Posted by ChelseaEllie:
“grouchy today, is hollyoaks worth watching”
Yes. It was fantastic tonight.
Looking at tomorrow we are back to T-bag crap and the oompa loompa. Great
Originally Posted by
cfc86:
“Looking at tomorrow we are back to T-bag crap and the oompa loompa. Great
”
why is Zig and Zag called Ziggy
Originally Posted by
cfc86:
“Looking at tomorrow we are back to T-bag crap and the oompa loompa. Great
”
Yup, typical Hollyoaks, after an occasional great ep they follow it by cr*p so you don't get your hopes up that the quality with change for the better!!!

