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BOTS Wanted A Fight & They Got One.. Could Have A Lawsuit On Their Hands
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Bev75
23-09-2015
Originally Posted by Arcana:
“Well the story has made it to near the top of the BBC home page.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/articl...between-guests”

As of yet there is nothing on Hertfordshire Police website on their latest news section that they were called out to the incident at the studio.
Vesna
23-09-2015
Originally Posted by Bev75:
“I've seen plenty of guests given time to answer, John McCerick, Vanessa Feltz just to name a couple straight off the bat.

Again Rylan is paid to present "A television presenter is a person who introduces or hosts television programmes, including factual documentaries, live events and sport." Clue is the ear peicre, and the auto-que he is paid to follow. Trying to blame Rylan is a bit blinkered IMO. It is down to the producers & directors.

With regard to the rest of your post, if you regard the British with such distain why do you bother spending your time reading our news and watching our shows?”

Yeah me too but not like this and not that long. There were still 2 evicted to ask questions of. Rylan is paid to moderate and he failed to do so. Emma would never have allowed that. She would have stepped in and said something like we have a lot to get to.
Please keep your fantasies limited to the show. Really pathetic of you to think you know **** all about me. What's wrong with you thinking you can comment about a total stranger . So sad.
FunboyFandango
23-09-2015
Originally Posted by Bev75:
“I've seen plenty of guests given time to answer, John McCerick, Vanessa Feltz just to name a couple straight off the bat.

Again Rylan is paid to present "A television presenter is a person who introduces or hosts television programmes, including factual documentaries, live events and sport." Clue is the ear peice, and the auto-que he is paid to follow. Trying to blame Rylan is a bit blinkered IMO. It is down to the producers & directors.

With regard to the rest of your post, if you regard the British with such distain why do you bother spending your time reading our news and watching our shows?”

Rylan's not a naive fool. He knows exactly what type of show BOTS is and that it is geared a lot around provoking conflict. He's complicit in the production of the show. He has to take some responsibility for what happened last night, as does everyone who works on that show. They are all in it together.

He may not be involved in production decisions, but he does agree to to front a show such as this. He's not without blame.
Bev75
23-09-2015
Originally Posted by Vesna:
“Yeah me too but not like this and not that long. There were still 2 evicted to ask questions of. Rylan is paid to moderate and he failed to do so. Emma would never have allowed that. She would have stepped in and said something like we have a lot to get to.
Please keep your fantasies limited to the show. Really pathetic of you to think you know **** all about me. What's wrong with you thinking you can comment about a total stranger . So sad.”

You had my interest until BiB. Get off your soap box love. I don't think anything of you.
Bev75
23-09-2015
Originally Posted by FunboyFandango:
“Rylan's not a naive fool. He knows exactly what type of show BOTS is and that it is geared a lot around provoking conflict. He's complicit in the production of the show. He has to take some responsibility for what happened last night, as does everyone who works on that show. They are all in it together.

He may not be involved in production decisions, but he does agree to to front a show such as this. He's not without blame.”

Well that's what my original post implied that I hope he isn't made the scapegoat and ends up losing his job having taken sole blame. That would be utterly unfair.
mike65
23-09-2015
Anger issues?

you can't fight in here this is the war room
ultros
23-09-2015
Originally Posted by mike65:
“Anger issues?

you can't fight in here this is the war room”

Lol I saw this again just the other night.

Best satire/black comedy ever

Rylan when he heard Aisleyne was coming for Farrah
JoJo4
23-09-2015
Originally Posted by Bev75:
“Rylan is paid to host, what the producers and directors decide is in their own hands. They are the ones who are culpable, not a paid host who's job it is to follow a script.”

I'm getting sick and tired of viewers blaming Rylan (and Emma at times) for the way the show goes. Rylan is as you say, a presenter, he doesn't make editorial or production decisions and presumably had to respond to either what he heard in his earpiece, or to the intervention in the studio.

Nor does he decide what questions to ask, that is all discussed in production meetings during the day - same with Emma's questions after evictions. The whole ambience of last night's show was guaranteed to throw up something nasty and the responsibility for that lies with the production team who only have themselves to blame.
Bev75
23-09-2015
Originally Posted by JoJo4:
“I'm getting sick and tired of viewers blaming Rylan (and Emma at times) for the way the show goes. Rylan is as you say, a presenter, he doesn't make editorial or production decisions and presumably had to respond to either what he heard in his earpiece, or to the intervention in the studio.

Nor does he decide what questions to ask, that is all discussed in production meetings during the day - same with Emma's questions after evictions. The whole ambience of last night's show was guaranteed to throw up something nasty and the responsibility for that lies with the production team who only have themselves to blame.”

Here, here. Absolutely agree.
richie4eva
23-09-2015
Last night wasn't Toofy or Emma's fault at all

Production knew:

1. To get Aisleyne tipsy as possible knowing she would kick off on Farrah

2. It was very dangerous putting Farrah and Aisleyne on the same panel, given the history between those three and that Farrah had a go at Nicola McClean a known friend of Aisleyne

3. which buttons to push to get things stoked up nicely

Pity now tomorrow is probably now overshadowed by the SOTS events, as most will be talking about that instead of who wins tomorrow

Feels a shame this series was well on the way to being the first series in a long time to be talked about for the right reasons, but yet again something happens which sours everything and now it's the wrong reasons which will be talked about again
hyperstarsponge
23-09-2015
Actually this means that bit on the side would be gone, Its not the main show that the problem here. Its the production of that shoddy show which no one really likes. We on here won't really miss that terrible so called side Big Brother show either. If you have to do a spin-off cut it down to 30 mins once a week and call it Big Brother box tick discussion show. Replace all of the rest with live feed.
FunboyFandango
23-09-2015
Originally Posted by JoJo4:
“I'm getting sick and tired of viewers blaming Rylan (and Emma at times) for the way the show goes. Rylan is as you say, a presenter, he doesn't make editorial or production decisions and presumably had to respond to either what he heard in his earpiece, or to the intervention in the studio.

Nor does he decide what questions to ask, that is all discussed in production meetings during the day - same with Emma's questions after evictions. The whole ambience of last night's show was guaranteed to throw up something nasty and the responsibility for that lies with the production team who only have themselves to blame.”

Nobody forces them to be part of the show. They do shoulder some of the blame for being complicit in it. They could easily walk away if they are honest with themselves and realise they are part of something that, as you say, is guaranteed to throw up something nasty.

They aren't naive innocents caught up in a brawl that has nothing to do with them.
teresagreen
23-09-2015
Originally Posted by JoJo4:
“I'm getting sick and tired of viewers blaming Rylan (and Emma at times) for the way the show goes. Rylan is as you say, a presenter, he doesn't make editorial or production decisions and presumably had to respond to either what he heard in his earpiece, or to the intervention in the studio.

Nor does he decide what questions to ask, that is all discussed in production meetings during the day - same with Emma's questions after evictions. The whole ambience of last night's show was guaranteed to throw up something nasty and the responsibility for that lies with the production team who only have themselves to blame.”

I agree. They don't produce the show. They present it and are told what to do and say. Rylan did well to keep going and explain things to the viewers the way he did.
SULLA
23-09-2015
Originally Posted by ultros:
“Updated Sun story/working link -

Vicki Michelle rushed to hospital after CBB brawl

ACTRESS Vicki Michelle was rushed to hospital last night after a brawl during a Celebrity Big Brother show.”

She was then obliged to join a queue of 50 others as it was not an urgent matter.

Originally Posted by SnowStorm86:
“Farrah is awful but Aislyene disgraced herself last night. Yet another bleak moment in BB history.”

A fair assessment

Originally Posted by JoJo4:
“I'm getting sick and tired of viewers blaming Rylan (and Emma at times) for the way the show goes. Rylan is as you say, a presenter, he doesn't make editorial or production decisions and presumably had to respond to either what he heard in his earpiece, or to the intervention in the studio.

Nor does he decide what questions to ask, that is all discussed in production meetings during the day - same with Emma's questions after evictions. The whole ambience of last night's show was guaranteed to throw up something nasty and the responsibility for that lies with the production team who only have themselves to blame.”

Perhaps he showed be replaced by a robot.
JoJo4
23-09-2015
Originally Posted by FunboyFandango:
“Nobody forces them to be part of the show. They do shoulder some of the blame for being complicit in it. They could easily walk away if they are honest with themselves and realise they are part of something that, as you say, is guaranteed to throw up something nasty.

They aren't naive innocents caught up in a brawl that has nothing to do with them.”

I'm not sure that's a realistic observation - it's what they do, it's their means of making a living. Rylan is a media whore, in the nicest possible way and probably doesn't have any fixed ideas about what he would consider 'a step too far'. He might reconsider in light of what happened last night, but if it all blows over and gets swept under the general media cover up carpet, why would he take responsibility, either morally or literally?
Miss.D
23-09-2015
It is obvious that they invited Aislyene on for a row. i don;t see why she had to get involved, really. She was ready to antagonise Farrah, she wanted a row- and we all know that farrah is easy to rile up.
ultros
24-09-2015
Originally Posted by Miss.D:
“It is obvious that they invited Aislyene on for a row. i don;t see why she had to get involved, really. She was ready to antagonise Farrah, she wanted a row- and we all know that farrah is easy to rile up.”

The BOTS producers manufactured the situation. They knowingly created a dangerous situation by booking the thuggish Aisleyne to go on & have a go at Farrah after saying she wanted to throw champagne over Farrah on twitter.

That Vicki woman who got hurt in the fracas (Aisleyne's mate) is now trying to make out that Aisleyne was innocent in causing the situation it was all Farrah, and she's thinking of pressing charges against her... yet we saw what caused it with our own eyes!

Farrah started off the show in a jolly mood talking about what a nice time she was having in London & how nice everyone was being to her.
Aisleyne was aggressive & confrontational from the start screaming "get on a plane & f*ck off home" amongst other things to Farrah, then threw a drink at her...
Imagine if you were Farrah & someone you didn't know did this to you. You would ether start crying or get angry & defend yourself... and we all know going by Farrah's temperament which one it will be for her... and so did the producers, that's why they put Aisleyne on with her and prodded the situation with a stick until it exploded

The producers booked Aisleyne for the very reason to cause a fight. Rylan was even bragging about how volatile the situation was from the start.

Rylan - There are 3 ladies waiting to get their teeth into tonight's action & possibly eachother... we're just hoping there's going to be no rows tonight (he says sarcastically)

Rylan - She's a glamor puss who's always ready to roar and I think she's got her claws out, give it up for Aisleyne

Rylan - I'm dreading these words coming out of my mouth, Aisleyne do you miss Farrah being in the house

It was human bear baiting at it's most sickeningly obvious!

Farrah is not the villain here. BOTS themselves orchestrated what happened and the dumb thug Aisleyne was the willing protagonist.
If anyone should sue then it's Farrah for being put into a situation by the producers designed solely for her to be attacked by Aisleyne, after their earlier attempts for her to be taken down by Friday's panel (Nicola, James Jordan etc) failed.
bluegroper
24-09-2015
Originally Posted by ultros:
“The BOTS producers manufactured the situation. They knowingly created a dangerous situation by booking the thuggish Aisleyne to go on & have a go at Farrah after saying she wanted to throw champagne over Farrah on twitter.

That Vicki woman who got hurt in the fracas (Aisleyne's mate) is now trying to make out that Aisleyne was innocent in causing the situation it was all Farrah, and she's thinking of pressing charges against her... yet we saw what caused it with our own eyes!

Farrah started off the show in a jolly mood talking about what a nice time she was having in London & how nice everyone was being to her.
Aisleyne was aggressive & confrontational from the start screaming "get on a plane & f*ck off home" amongst other things to Farrah, then threw a drink at her...
Imagine if you were Farrah & someone you didn't know did this to you. You would ether start crying or get angry & defend yourself... and we all know going by Farrah's temperament which one it will be for her... and so did the producers, that's why they put Aisleyne on with her and prodded the situation with a stick until it exploded

The producers booked Aisleyne for the very reason to cause a fight. Rylan was even bragging about how volatile the situation was from the start.

Rylan - There are 3 ladies waiting to get their teeth into tonight's action & possibly eachother... we're just hoping there's going to be no rows tonight (he says sarcastically)

Rylan - She's a glamor puss who's always ready to roar and I think she's got her claws out, give it up for Aisleyne

Rylan - I'm dreading these words coming out of my mouth, Aisleyne do you miss Farrah being in the house

It was human bear baiting at it's most sickeningly obvious!

Farrah is not the villain here. BOTS themselves orchestrated what happened and the dumb thug Aisleyne was the willing protagonist.
If anyone should sue then it's Farrah for being put into a situation by the producers designed solely for her to be attacked by Aisleyne, after their earlier attempts for her to be taken down by Friday's panel (Nicola, James Jordan etc) failed.”

How do you know Vicki Michelle was good friends with Aisleyne? They only met on the show and we didn't see what was happening at all. We didn't see what was happening during breaks leading up to the argument. Farrah is a thug for throwing glass that is not the action of a rational person. And don't excuse her from the other night she never met any of the panel before and Carol McGriffin was even supportive of her until she was insulted during the break!

C5 will have to take out heavy liability insurance if they ever invite Farrah back to the show she is a loose cannon and dangerous!
Veri
24-09-2015
Originally Posted by FunboyFandango:
“Nobody forces them to be part of the show. They do shoulder some of the blame for being complicit in it. They could easily walk away if they are honest with themselves and realise they are part of something that, as you say, is guaranteed to throw up something nasty.

They aren't naive innocents caught up in a brawl that has nothing to do with them.”

That's a good point, imo, and one too seldom made.

The presenters are complicit, and by choice.
ultros
24-09-2015
Originally Posted by bluegroper:
“How do you know Vicki Michelle was good friends with Aisleyne? They only met on the show and we didn't see what was happening at all.”

I didn't say 'good friends' I said 'mate', and I meant they both know eachother as they inhabit the same UK Z-list circuit as the likes of the TOWIE/Geordie Shore cast who turn up on whatever will have them, BOTS, The Write stuff, charity soccer matches etc.

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“We didn't see what was happening during breaks leading up to the argument.”

What happened during the breaks??? Do tell !!!

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“Farrah is a thug for throwing glass that is not the action of a rational person. And don't excuse her from the other night she never met any of the panel before and Carol McGriffin was even supportive of her until she was insulted during the break!”

Carol had slagged Farrah off every time she was on BOTS up untill that time then wimped out knowing she was going to be face to face with Farrah saying "she's been nicer this past few days".
During the break Carol butted in contradicting Farrah when she was explaining something that happened in the house between Austin & James to Gail... Farrah told her to shut up as she wasn't there!!!
As for the other 2 James & Nicola they were bragging from the start of the show how they were going to 'let Farrah have it' before Farrah even came on then failed miserably.

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“C5 will have to take out heavy liability insurance if they ever invite Farrah back to the show she is a loose cannon and dangerous!”

Oh I'm sure Farrah will be devastated that she can't fly all the way over from America to do BOTS for 100 bucks a pop
bluegroper
24-09-2015
Originally Posted by ultros:
“I didn't say 'good friends' I said 'mate', and I meant they both know eachother as they inhabit the same UK Z-list circuit as the likes of the TOWIE/Geordie Shore cast who turn up on whatever will have them, BOTS, The Write stuff, charity soccer matches etc.


What happened during the breaks??? Do tell !!!


Carol had slagged Farrah off every time she was on BOTS up untill that time then wimped out knowing she was going to be face to face with Farrah saying "she's been nicer this past few days".
During the break Carol butted in contradicting Farrah when she was explaining something that happened in the house between Austin & James to Gail... Farrah told her to shut up as she wasn't there!!!
As for the other 2 James & Nicola they were bragging from the start of the show how they were going to 'let Farrah have it' before Farrah even came on then failed miserably.


Oh I'm sure Farrah will be devastated that she can't fly all the way over from America to do BOTS for 100 bucks a pop ”

So she has gone home and won't appear at the finale CBBBOTS then?
ultros
24-09-2015
Originally Posted by bluegroper:
“So she has gone home and won't appear at the finale CBBBOTS then? ”

I can't see her being at the final but I doubt she will care as it's essentially not having to work & still getting paid

So she can put her feet up & relax instead of having to turn up to the final & have some desperado try & have a go at her to look good on TV again.
FunboyFandango
24-09-2015
Originally Posted by JoJo4:
“I'm not sure that's a realistic observation - it's what they do, it's their means of making a living. Rylan is a media whore, in the nicest possible way and probably doesn't have any fixed ideas about what he would consider 'a step too far'. He might reconsider in light of what happened last night, but if it all blows over and gets swept under the general media cover up carpet, why would he take responsibility, either morally or literally?”

I don't think there is any doubt he is complicit in it. It's a fact.

Whether or not he realises it is another matter, either way it doesn't absolve him of any responsibility.
Darcyprincess
24-09-2015
Originally Posted by ultros:
“The BOTS producers manufactured the situation. They knowingly created a dangerous situation by booking the thuggish Aisleyne to go on & have a go at Farrah after saying she wanted to throw champagne over Farrah on twitter.

That Vicki woman who got hurt in the fracas (Aisleyne's mate) is now trying to make out that Aisleyne was innocent in causing the situation it was all Farrah, and she's thinking of pressing charges against her... yet we saw what caused it with our own eyes!

Farrah started off the show in a jolly mood talking about what a nice time she was having in London & how nice everyone was being to her.
Aisleyne was aggressive & confrontational from the start screaming "get on a plane & f*ck off home" amongst other things to Farrah, then threw a drink at her...
Imagine if you were Farrah & someone you didn't know did this to you. You would ether start crying or get angry & defend yourself... and we all know going by Farrah's temperament which one it will be for her... and so did the producers, that's why they put Aisleyne on with her and prodded the situation with a stick until it exploded

The producers booked Aisleyne for the very reason to cause a fight. Rylan was even bragging about how volatile the situation was from the start.

Rylan - There are 3 ladies waiting to get their teeth into tonight's action & possibly eachother... we're just hoping there's going to be no rows tonight (he says sarcastically)

Rylan - She's a glamor puss who's always ready to roar and I think she's got her claws out, give it up for Aisleyne

Rylan - I'm dreading these words coming out of my mouth, Aisleyne do you miss Farrah being in the house

It was human bear baiting at it's most sickeningly obvious!

Farrah is not the villain here. BOTS themselves orchestrated what happened and the dumb thug Aisleyne was the willing protagonist.
If anyone should sue then it's Farrah for being put into a situation by the producers designed solely for her to be attacked by Aisleyne, after their earlier attempts for her to be taken down by Friday's panel (Nicola, James Jordan etc) failed.”

Absolutely UNBELIEVABLE! I rest my case what I have just written on another thread! You really don't want to take on board what Farrah has actually done do you? Even when you get it from the horses mouth, Vikki! I won't put what I am really thinking because I would be banned!
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