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Why should it be scrapped? If you find it too much turn it off.
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Seems an easier option for viewers with obvious mental impairments of hypochondriac munchausen by proxy, to simply stop watching.
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The logical endpoint of that argument is televising anything which gets an audience, on the grounds that people can choose whether or not they want to watch it. Have you seen The Hunger Games?
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You could save yourself time by just declaring yourself bemused.
It is immaterial in this instance how Janice arrived at her mental impairment. As for the violence (and its inevitability given the set up) the fact it happened is all you need to know. Not sure how I could be entertained by something that was not broadcast, but then again you admit to being bemused. In short, if you have watched the show as you suggest, and if you paid attention to who was on you knew what to expect. Why call for a program you clearly enjoy watching to be cancelled? |
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Why call for a programme you clearly enjoy watching to be cancelled?
What I like about CBB Is still there, but the producers are degrading the concept to the point where it is degrading our sense of what it is to be a human being - desensitizing us to what is acceptable behaviour. Given the way they are running the show a fight in the studio was inevitable. Whether I personally watch it or not in future is irrelevant. The point is should it be broadcast? |
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I am CBB's biggest fan, but after witnessing a vicious and sustained verbal assault on a 60 year old woman (with obvious dementia), by a 28 year old man (with obvious behaviour problems) broadcast in its entirety by Channel Five, and now violence in the studio afterwards, which was entirely predictable, among former housemates, it is time to scrap it.
Channel Five should lose its license. |
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I agree with you in regards to Janice's obvious mental instability and possible early dementia, but this is what keeps the show afloat. This has probably been the craziest series yet and I bet it's been ratings gold. Good or bad, this is why people tune in. They don't care to see housemates getting along with eachother all the time and being civil. That would be...well, dullsville. BB cast the bottomfeeders of celebrities, and the more unstable, the better. Hell, remember Gary Busey? He has major BRAIN damage (from a horrific motorcycle accident, years ago) and he actually won that year!
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The logical endpoint of that argument is televising anything which gets an audience, on the grounds that people can choose whether or not they want to watch it. Have you seen The Hunger Games?
BOTS is a dramatised coming together of low rent celebrities, where feuds and disagreements are encouraged for our viewing pleasure. Yes I understand what you are saying, but though last nights shenanigans could arguably have been prevented, they did involve grown adults and no deadly weapons were provided.. ![]() A slap on the wrist and a little more responsible production in the future would suffice. I don't think you can draw realistic comparisons with the Hunger Games...yet. |
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by somebody who (to me) clearly has psychopathic tendencies
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Oh my stars! 'Obviously', 'Clearly' ...I would respectfully suggest that watching people on Big Brother isn't the best clinical study for making your apparently unshakable pychiatric diagnosis of them! And out of interest, are these labels your giving them relevant to your stance? If you hadn't identified the clear signs of dementia and psychopathy in two of the participants would the events that distressed you no longer warrant a call for the shows immediate removal?
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watching people on Big Brother isn't the best clinical study of them!
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She managed to fight her way through the series with Gary Busey, who was goaded in much the same manner despite being clearly mentally impaired and the Jade Goody year where they victimised a fellow housemate with racial slurs and was headline news on BBC as a result. Why the sudden change of opinion?
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As I recall Jade Goody was removed from the House because of her behaviour. Austin does not even seem to have received a warning. Spot the difference.
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Quite the opposite. Why do you think guests offering psychological insights into their behaviour are such a regular feature of the show.
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As I recall Jade Goody was removed from the House because of her behaviour. Austin does not even seem to have received a warning. Spot the difference.
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Your confusing psychology with psychiatry
In the case of Janice I see evidence of mental confusion. Again I do not speculate what could be the cause. I simply observe her behaviour. |
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You start from the premise that the programme has always been about goading mentally impaired people. I do not accept your premise. But even if I was to accept your premise, it would hardly be a good argument for keeping the show on air.
I'll try to be clearer this time regarding your request for the show to end. What is it about this series that makes it soo much worse than any that have gone before considering the foul language and targeting of individuals that has taken place on previous series? |
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She managed to fight her way through the series with Gary Busey, who was goaded in much the same manner despite being clearly mentally impaired and the Jade Goody year where they victimised a fellow housemate with racial slurs and was headline news on BBC as a result. Why the sudden change of opinion?
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What is it about this series that makes it so much worse than any that have gone before considering the foul language and targeting of individuals that has taken place on previous series?
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I am suggesting that Austin has psychopathic tendencies. I am not speculating about the cause, or possible cures. Maybe he can change, maybe he can't. I simply see evidence of a problem.
In the case of Janice I see evidence of mental confusion. Again I do not speculate what could be the cause. I simply observe her behaviour. |
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Gay housemates have always been allowed to get away with a lot more
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I am CBB's biggest fan, but after witnessing a vicious and sustained verbal assault on a 60 year old woman (with obvious dementia), by a 28 year old man (with obvious behaviour problems) broadcast in its entirety by Channel Five, and now violence in the studio afterwards, which was entirely predictable, among former housemates, it is time to scrap it.
Channel Five should lose its license. |
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So to return to my previous question, are the disorders you believe you've identified in these participants an important factor in your belief the show should now be cancelled? Or would you suggest that channel 5 choosing to air footage of a 28 year old man aggressively screaming C**T at a 60 year old woman is probably reason enough on its own terms?
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Having been witness to a couple of occasions when one of my close family members had seizures as a result of illness, i never for a second assumed that what Janice had in the diary room was anything like a seizure. The rigidity and involuntary movement is very obvious and is quite different to what Janice presented in my eyes. I could well be wrong, but i can only draw from my own experience.
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