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BOTS Audience Have A Gagging Order It Seems
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Exmrs
23-09-2015
Originally Posted by TomGardiner:
“As an audience member who appears often myself, I have to back up last night's audience and say that various legal reasons from a contract signed by audience members before they enter the BOTS studio, states that any given information from a member regarding conflict off-air in the studio, can result in the consequence of that member being banned from the studio and show in the future.”

No offence but some of the idiot loudmouths they have in the audience I can't see them reading a contract before signing and even less likely to keep their big mouth shut.

Look at how they act on the show shouting out , talking over each other and the general look at me , look at me face they have whenever the camera is near.

Whatever Bb has threatened them with must be good either that or they paid them to keep quiet.
TomGardiner
23-09-2015
Originally Posted by Exmrs:
“No offence but some of the idiot loudmouths they have in the audience I can't see them reading a contract before signing and even less likely to keep their big mouth shut.

Look at how they act on the show shouting out , talking over each other and the general look at me , look at me face they have whenever the camera is near.

Whatever Bb has threatened them with must be good either that or they paid them to keep quiet.”

They have to sign the contract, otherwise they can't go into the studio. And as well as that, they are forced to listen to a member of the BOTS team reading out the contract rules. Audience members are asked to be rowdy and voice their opinion - they're asked to shine as much as they can. They were not threatened, they were strictly asked to bide by the rules of the form that they sign.
KT_Dog
23-09-2015
Originally Posted by TomGardiner:
“As an audience member who appears often myself, I have to back up last night's audience and say that various legal reasons from a contract signed by audience members before they enter the BOTS studio, states that any given information from a member regarding conflict off-air in the studio, can result in the consequence of that member being banned from the studio and show in the future.”

Of course... Ah if only there was some way somebody could tell the harrowing story anonymously... But they can't, because the internet hasn't been invented yet.
all_night
23-09-2015
Just because the police were called doesn't mean you can't talk about what you saw. Only if someone was charged would you have to hold back on what had gone on.

Real shame it wasn't live.
all_night
23-09-2015
Originally Posted by TomGardiner:
“They have to sign the contract, otherwise they can't go into the studio. And as well as that, they are forced to listen to a member of the BOTS team reading out the contract rules. Audience members are asked to be rowdy and voice their opinion - they're asked to shine as much as they can. They were not threatened, they were strictly asked to bide by the rules of the form that they sign.”

Is this a new thing? I went on BOTS back when it originally begun and don't recall signing anything.
TomGardiner
23-09-2015
Originally Posted by all_night:
“Is this a new thing? I went on BOTS back when it originally begun and don't recall signing anything.”

This has been around since 2013 - as far as I am aware, but every time I have gone a form has needed to be signed.
Bev75
23-09-2015
Originally Posted by TomGardiner:
“This has been around since 2013 - as far as I am aware, but every time I have gone a form has needed to be signed.”

Thanks for the insight Tom, it is appreciated information (not surprised though). Please do not take any offence at all by my next comment, as none is intended. However, as I was watching BOTS last night I did think to myself that the same audience has become tiresome and it would be nice to see new faces and hear other opinions.

Anyone else had the same thought?
TomGardiner
23-09-2015
Originally Posted by Bev75:
“Thanks for the insight Tom, it is appreciated information (not surprised though). Please do not take any offence at all by my next comment, as none is intended. However, as I was watching BOTS last night I did think to myself that the same audience has become tiresome and it would be nice to see new faces and hear other opinions.

Anyone else had the same thought?”

No, I agree. I'm not a regular like them - I appear once or twice per series. It comes to no surprise that people tire of seeing the same audience. We have a few regulars going into the house tonight, one being Irish John. I do understand your point!
Bev75
23-09-2015
Originally Posted by TomGardiner:
“No, I agree. I'm not a regular like them - I appear once or twice per series. It comes to no surprise that people tire of seeing the same audience. We have a few regulars going into the house tonight, one being Irish John. I do understand your point!”

Thank you Tom.
marbri
23-09-2015
Originally Posted by Kopite1763:
“Carol was being complimentary about Farrah and even said she was sad she was evicted......after the "tiff" Carol had changed her opinion and was glad she had been booted out.
It seems during the break words were exchanged.
As for Farrah on last nights BOTS....I thought she came across extremely rude, especially to Vicki, who merely tried to explain in a calm and reasonable voice, why she wasn't sorry to see Farrah go. Farrah responded in her usual way, of talking over Vicki, not listening to her, putting her hand up, and acting like a prima donna.”

I think Vicki made it clear she wasn't a fan of Farrah. Rylan asked her if she missed seeing Farrah in there and she responded "No, no, no....." Vicki and Aisleyne also tweeted pre-show photos of them hugging each other. You'd be a fool to think those two weren't chatting about their talking points.

I'm not going to defend Farrah, girl has a lot to learn. But what I have learned about her is that if she picks up on your negative feelings towards her she shuts down, wall goes up and she talks through you. Farrah doesn't act that way with EVERYONE, she gives what she gets. She gives it tenfold but she gives what she gets. If you look at the more mature, sensible ones in the house (Sherrie, Scoop and yes even Gail) Farrah was different with them. They recognized her pressure point, chose a different approach and it worked. Sane intelligent people who really don't like that sort of behaviour and don't feel the need to ham it up for attention know how to avoid the wrath of people like Farrah. You can see it in Emma's eviction interview, Farrah arrives ready to play the game and then when Emma sticks to the party line of evil Farrah you see Farrah shut down. Emma thinks she's a difficult interview but Rylan has a different approach and gets a different Farrah to interview. Emma couldn't hide her dislike of Farrah, Rylan could (during his post eviction interview, the rest of his airtime he plays a big part in the Farrah fiasco but at the time of her interview Farrah would have been unaware).

If I walk into an arena waving a red flag to a bull I can't be surprised and stunned by the reaction of the bull. Vicki may have just been waving a red handkerchief compared to the huge tarp Aisleyne was flapping around but they both went on the panel to have a go at Farrah. Farrah knew it. She didn't even look at either of them and for all her faults I think Farrah would have acknowledged Vicki had there been nothing negative prior to the "live" show. Her first night on BBOTS was with an anti-Farrah panel and for her next appearance the stacked the panel against her again. She was ready and on the defensive from the start.
spkx
23-09-2015
Originally Posted by KT_Dog:
“Of course... Ah if only there was some way somebody could tell the harrowing story anonymously... But they can't, because the internet hasn't been invented yet.”

Would you believe the tale of an anonymous person on the internet?
Veri
23-09-2015
Originally Posted by TomGardiner:
“As an audience member who appears often myself, I have to back up last night's audience and say that various legal reasons from a contract signed by audience members before they enter the BOTS studio, states that any given information from a member regarding conflict off-air in the studio, can result in the consequence of that member being banned from the studio and show in the future.”

Originally Posted by TomGardiner:
“I tried to ask Paul, who is a good friend of mine, last night - and he wouldn't even tell me any information because he was strictly forbidden too. Other than the details we have already heard today.”

That's a ridiculous restriction when Aisleyne is free to tell her version to the Mirror.

Besides, so what if BB might ban someone who said what happened? Why are they all letting the mere possibility intimidate them?
Veri
23-09-2015
Originally Posted by diesels hummin:
“Maybe the matter is under criminal investigation and the potential witnesses are required to remain silent until it is decided if charges are to be brought.”

Originally Posted by Bev75:
“If it is to go to court any witness statements aired on a pubic platform may be considered as influencing the jury and the case being thrown out of court. The police will have told all witnesses this if they did attend.”

Originally Posted by patricia50:
“This is what is being said on various newspapers and sites and adds nothing new.
I would probably agree with another poster that charges of assault may be brought and as such it cannot be commented on but I wish I was a fly on the wall. I lay all the blame with channel 5 as they knew this would be explosive and brought Aisleyne in purposely for that reason. They cannot then act as if it was a shock to them. Its like fight night all over again. Did anyone notice by the way that just before it was taken off as they started to kick off Jenna looked scared. She's full of the big "I am" but only likes to load bullets for Farrah, not get involved in this mayhem”

Aisleyne has commented and has even given her version to the Mirror.

So none of those legal explanations are convincing.
FunboyFandango
23-09-2015
Originally Posted by Veri:
“That's a ridiculous restriction when Aisleyne is free to tell her version to the Mirror.

Besides, so what if BB might ban someone who said what happened? Why are they all letting the mere possibility intimidate them?”

I agree. If I were them i'd tell all to anyone who asked. Why would you even want to be part of a show like that after what happened last night?

I'd be embarrassed to be associated with it.
Sun Tzu.
23-09-2015
Two desperate z listers in a room, we all know what happened really.
KT_Dog
23-09-2015
Originally Posted by spkx:
“Would you believe the tale of an anonymous person on the internet? ”

That would be very dependent on the information contained within the tale I would have thought. But if the question is, do I disregard anything that's given out from a position of anonymity then the answer would be no, I don't. I disregard things based on my evaluation of the content rather than the accompanying handle. If I did then reading forums such as this would be something of a waste of time I suppose. My real name isn't KT_Dog for example, I'm guessing yours isn't spkx?
hyperstarsponge
23-09-2015
Funny thing is that social media is your opinion and not owned by Channel 5, If I say the show is a disgrace and should be axed on social media. Its my word not there's. Mind I will never even go near the show these days anyway so its moot point.
nattoyaki
23-09-2015
Makes total sense they have to sign a contract. Whether they read it or now doesn't count legally.

At the same time I'm amazed no-one's come out anonynously via a proxy etc today and explained just what did go on!!!

Originally Posted by Bev75:
“Thanks for the insight Tom, it is appreciated information (not surprised though). Please do not take any offence at all by my next comment, as none is intended. However, as I was watching BOTS last night I did think to myself that the same audience has become tiresome and it would be nice to see new faces and hear other opinions.

Anyone else had the same thought?
”

Absolutely! It's just one of the reasons I don't watch at all anymore. You can almost see Rylan lining up the order of his favourites in his head before he starts

Originally Posted by TomGardiner:
“No, I agree. I'm not a regular like them - I appear once or twice per series. It comes to no surprise that people tire of seeing the same audience. We have a few regulars going into the house tonight, one being Irish John. I do understand your point!”

Dear god, not that eejit yet again. I was thinking of watching due to all the drama, probably not now
SegaGamer
23-09-2015
Originally Posted by TomGardiner:
“No, I agree. I'm not a regular like them - I appear once or twice per series. It comes to no surprise that people tire of seeing the same audience. We have a few regulars going into the house tonight, one being Irish John. I do understand your point!”

Oh no, not that guy again. He would have loved last night, i bet he would have been clapping like a dolphin and foaming out of the mouth at what he seen from the panelists.
nattoyaki
23-09-2015
Originally Posted by Veri:
“That's a ridiculous restriction when Aisleyne is free to tell her version to the Mirror.

Besides, so what if BB might ban someone who said what happened? Why are they all letting the mere possibility intimidate them?”

I think it's a bit different having someone who was directly involved telling their story to a newspaper compared to 30 no doubt differing accounts going mad all across social media.

At the end of the day Ash will have to stand by her account, the others are all a grey area.

Just mho
SIOPHIE_FIERCE
23-09-2015
Originally Posted by marbri:
“I think Vicki made it clear she wasn't a fan of Farrah. Rylan asked her if she missed seeing Farrah in there and she responded "No, no, no....." Vicki and Aisleyne also tweeted pre-show photos of them hugging each other. You'd be a fool to think those two weren't chatting about their talking points.

I'm not going to defend Farrah, girl has a lot to learn. But what I have learned about her is that if she picks up on your negative feelings towards her she shuts down, wall goes up and she talks through you. Farrah doesn't act that way with EVERYONE, she gives what she gets. She gives it tenfold but she gives what she gets. If you look at the more mature, sensible ones in the house (Sherrie, Scoop and yes even Gail) Farrah was different with them. They recognized her pressure point, chose a different approach and it worked. Sane intelligent people who really don't like that sort of behaviour and don't feel the need to ham it up for attention know how to avoid the wrath of people like Farrah. You can see it in Emma's eviction interview, Farrah arrives ready to play the game and then when Emma sticks to the party line of evil Farrah you see Farrah shut down. Emma thinks she's a difficult interview but Rylan has a different approach and gets a different Farrah to interview. Emma couldn't hide her dislike of Farrah, Rylan could (during his post eviction interview, the rest of his airtime he plays a big part in the Farrah fiasco but at the time of her interview Farrah would have been unaware).

If I walk into an arena waving a red flag to a bull I can't be surprised and stunned by the reaction of the bull. Vicki may have just been waving a red handkerchief compared to the huge tarp Aisleyne was flapping around but they both went on the panel to have a go at Farrah. Farrah knew it. She didn't even look at either of them and for all her faults I think Farrah would have acknowledged Vicki had there been nothing negative prior to the "live" show. Her first night on BBOTS was with an anti-Farrah panel and for her next appearance the stacked the panel against her again. She was ready and on the defensive from the start.”

Very well put. Agree on all points.

Just to add, in the other corner we have Jenna who thinks she was good for Farrah and was mentoring her when in reality she would wind her up real good and this resulted in Farrah getting into arguments most of the time.
JavarnJohnson
23-09-2015
Originally Posted by marbri:
“I think Vicki made it clear she wasn't a fan of Farrah. Rylan asked her if she missed seeing Farrah in there and she responded "No, no, no....." Vicki and Aisleyne also tweeted pre-show photos of them hugging each other. You'd be a fool to think those two weren't chatting about their talking points.

I'm not going to defend Farrah, girl has a lot to learn. But what I have learned about her is that if she picks up on your negative feelings towards her she shuts down, wall goes up and she talks through you. Farrah doesn't act that way with EVERYONE, she gives what she gets. She gives it tenfold but she gives what she gets. If you look at the more mature, sensible ones in the house (Sherrie, Scoop and yes even Gail) Farrah was different with them. They recognized her pressure point, chose a different approach and it worked. Sane intelligent people who really don't like that sort of behaviour and don't feel the need to ham it up for attention know how to avoid the wrath of people like Farrah. You can see it in Emma's eviction interview, Farrah arrives ready to play the game and then when Emma sticks to the party line of evil Farrah you see Farrah shut down. Emma thinks she's a difficult interview but Rylan has a different approach and gets a different Farrah to interview. Emma couldn't hide her dislike of Farrah, Rylan could (during his post eviction interview, the rest of his airtime he plays a big part in the Farrah fiasco but at the time of her interview Farrah would have been unaware).

If I walk into an arena waving a red flag to a bull I can't be surprised and stunned by the reaction of the bull. Vicki may have just been waving a red handkerchief compared to the huge tarp Aisleyne was flapping around but they both went on the panel to have a go at Farrah. Farrah knew it. She didn't even look at either of them and for all her faults I think Farrah would have acknowledged Vicki had there been nothing negative prior to the "live" show. Her first night on BBOTS was with an anti-Farrah panel and for her next appearance the stacked the panel against her again. She was ready and on the defensive from the start.”

Sums up both Farrah and the situation perfectly. Couldn't agree more.
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