That's that question answered, at least.
Can Pasha reach the semi-finals this year?
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Originally Posted by beebopbabsie:
“And again. Why don't you get over YOUR self.”
“And again. Why don't you get over YOUR self.”
Don't the T&C's ask us to debate the post not the poster?
Originally Posted by StigOfTheKrump:
“That's that question answered, at least.”
“That's that question answered, at least.”
Indeed it is ...........
Originally Posted by coppertop1:
“Oddly stalky post.
Really this forum is exactly that a place to discuss things I wasn't aware it was a gang up on others.
Many people will have different ideas and we are all allowed to state them.
I find it really odd that there are a few people on here stating everything is sweetness and light, when I am sure they get equally irritated.
As for the person who brought in the para olympics, shame on you. If you can't see the difference you really don't know much about disability.
Just for your information that are irritating disabled people and some of them would not be able to dance because of their attitude rather than their disability.”
“Oddly stalky post.
Really this forum is exactly that a place to discuss things I wasn't aware it was a gang up on others.
Many people will have different ideas and we are all allowed to state them.
I find it really odd that there are a few people on here stating everything is sweetness and light, when I am sure they get equally irritated.
As for the person who brought in the para olympics, shame on you. If you can't see the difference you really don't know much about disability.
Just for your information that are irritating disabled people and some of them would not be able to dance because of their attitude rather than their disability.”
I brought up the paralympics and have no shame for doing so .
The point was made that a certain 'select' group of dance teachers would not be bothered teaching students who don't have a natural flair or show promise as champions . I used the paralympics as an example of people who defy that ridiculous notion that only perfection is worthy of being encouraged and catered for . I stand by it .
Originally Posted by aggs:
“Don't the T&C's ask us to debate the post not the poster?”
“Don't the T&C's ask us to debate the post not the poster?”
Yes, though that posting was addressing the self same remark aimed at me. Which i have not dignified with a retort.
Originally Posted by coppertop1:
“Oddly stalky post.
Really this forum is exactly that a place to discuss things I wasn't aware it was a gang up on others.
Many people will have different ideas and we are all allowed to state them.
I find it really odd that there are a few people on here stating everything is sweetness and light, when I am sure they get equally irritated.
As for the person who brought in the para olympics, shame on you. If you can't see the difference you really don't know much about disability.
Just for your information that are irritating disabled people and some of them would not be able to dance because of their attitude rather than their disability.”
“Oddly stalky post.
Really this forum is exactly that a place to discuss things I wasn't aware it was a gang up on others.
Many people will have different ideas and we are all allowed to state them.
I find it really odd that there are a few people on here stating everything is sweetness and light, when I am sure they get equally irritated.
As for the person who brought in the para olympics, shame on you. If you can't see the difference you really don't know much about disability.
Just for your information that are irritating disabled people and some of them would not be able to dance because of their attitude rather than their disability.”
Do be careful what you're implying, won't you? I was asking a very straightforward question of somebody that has posted her credentials on a regular basis for all the years that I have read these forums, and that is all.
Originally Posted by coppertop1:
“I find it really odd that there are a few people on here stating everything is sweetness and light, when I am sure they get equally irritated. ”
“I find it really odd that there are a few people on here stating everything is sweetness and light, when I am sure they get equally irritated. ”
No, it isn't all sweetness and light and I didn't mean to imply that if I'm included in 'a few people'.
People can be irritating for all sorts of reasons, including brilliant dancers. Being a good dancer doesn't make you a lovely person inside, no matter what those twee quotes on facebook say. And yeah, there is the not very good dancer who knows better than their teacher and so on.....
I can't be bothered to track down who has said what in this discussion (it goes over a few pages). I can only express my view that the teachers I most admire are those that enjoy the challenge of teaching a range of abilities. But sure, no one is going to enjoy teaching someone who is obnoxious and they might have to work hard to put on their sweetest smile for the nice, but exasperating. We're all human!
I thought Carol gave it a good go tonight, but obviously didn't compare to most of the other dancers as the standard was quite high for a first night
Either way, depending on votes, should Carole be up against a bloke in the dance off after next week, it will be au-revoir just to balance the genders.
Originally Posted by coppertop1:
“Oddly stalky post.
Really this forum is exactly that a place to discuss things I wasn't aware it was a gang up on others.
Many people will have different ideas and we are all allowed to state them.
I find it really odd that there are a few people on here stating everything is sweetness and light, when I am sure they get equally irritated.
As for the person who brought in the para olympics, shame on you. If you can't see the difference you really don't know much about disability.
Just for your information that are irritating disabled people and some of them would not be able to dance because of their attitude rather than their disability.”
“Oddly stalky post.
Really this forum is exactly that a place to discuss things I wasn't aware it was a gang up on others.
Many people will have different ideas and we are all allowed to state them.
I find it really odd that there are a few people on here stating everything is sweetness and light, when I am sure they get equally irritated.
As for the person who brought in the para olympics, shame on you. If you can't see the difference you really don't know much about disability.
Just for your information that are irritating disabled people and some of them would not be able to dance because of their attitude rather than their disability.”
As is Fuschia Groan ...
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“I brought up the paralympics and have no shame for doing so .
The point was made that a certain 'select' group of dance teachers would not be bothered teaching students who don't have a natural flair or show promise as champions . I used the paralympics as an example of people who defy that ridiculous notion that only perfection is worthy of being encouraged and catered for . I stand by it .”
“I brought up the paralympics and have no shame for doing so .
The point was made that a certain 'select' group of dance teachers would not be bothered teaching students who don't have a natural flair or show promise as champions . I used the paralympics as an example of people who defy that ridiculous notion that only perfection is worthy of being encouraged and catered for . I stand by it .”
Sighs, really I find it perfectly possible for someone to strive for perfection and be disabled.
Still never mind you obviously don't understand.
Actually scrub that, at present Anthony is temporarily disabled, within his limitation both he and Oti strived to do the best that they could within their physical limitations.
Now what exactly has Carole's attitude have to do with Anthony's hopefully temporary disability. I would absolutely 100 times want to teach Anthony rather than Carole.
Originally Posted by Hamlet77:
“Don't care as long as he is in longer than Georgia May.”
“Don't care as long as he is in longer than Georgia May.”
i'm not arguing with you about this anymore.
and you haven't seen her dance, so how can you know.
Carol's "attitude" seems fine to me, she is clearly willing to learn even if she isn't naturally able or confident.
Originally Posted by wazzyboy:
“Carol's "attitude" seems fine to me, she is clearly willing to learn even if she isn't naturally able or confident.”
“Carol's "attitude" seems fine to me, she is clearly willing to learn even if she isn't naturally able or confident.”
she seems nice, but she isn't really too popular on social media.
Peter the Ego Andre, has 3 million twitter followers, it would be a nightmare having him until the final.
Anita Rani seems really nice, and she can dance.
so i agree with Nina Blake. Anita, Georgia and Helen as my favourites.
Anthony was underscored and Daniel was overscored.
Originally Posted by Nicky_Gardenov:
“she seems nice, but she isn't really too popular on social media.
Peter the Ego Andre, has 3 million twitter followers, it would be a nightmare having him until the final.
Anita Rani seems really nice, and she can dance.
so i agree with Nina Blake. Anita, Georgia and Helen as my favourites.
Anthony was underscored and Daniel was overscored.”
“she seems nice, but she isn't really too popular on social media.
Peter the Ego Andre, has 3 million twitter followers, it would be a nightmare having him until the final.
Anita Rani seems really nice, and she can dance.
so i agree with Nina Blake. Anita, Georgia and Helen as my favourites.
Anthony was underscored and Daniel was overscored.”
I am unconvinced that the BBC Brekky viewership are all that welded to Twitter, I think Carol will get votes from many of its viewers and unless she gets a full row of rotten scores next week I reckon she will have no problem avoiding the dance off. The brekky presenters phoned her at home this morning and she said nerves got the better of her on the night, but now the first one is over she is keen to keep going.
Originally Posted by wazzyboy:
“I am unconvinced that the BBC Brekky viewership are all that welded to Twitter, I think Carol will get votes from many of its viewers and unless she gets a full row of rotten scores next week I reckon she will have no problem avoiding the dance off. The brekky presenters phoned her at home this morning and she said nerves got the better of her on the night, but now the first one is over she is keen to keep going.”
“I am unconvinced that the BBC Brekky viewership are all that welded to Twitter, I think Carol will get votes from many of its viewers and unless she gets a full row of rotten scores next week I reckon she will have no problem avoiding the dance off. The brekky presenters phoned her at home this morning and she said nerves got the better of her on the night, but now the first one is over she is keen to keep going.”
okay, BBC Breakfast will probably put her number on redial.
i can see Iwan being a train wreck, lack of training.
Daniel O'Donnell, a latin dance for him, well he has zero personality and the irish can't vote.
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“Really ?
I'd never subject any of my kids to a dance teacher who "scared the hell" of them . But each to their own .”
“Really ?
I'd never subject any of my kids to a dance teacher who "scared the hell" of them . But each to their own .”
I was trained professionally. It is slightly different. Ballet schools are serious places.
Originally Posted by Fuchsia Groan:
“Is that the one size fits all school of teaching methodology? I expect your methods might have become a little more sophisticated if you'd have taught for any length of time, but as I recall you taught for two years, was it, starting while you were still in your teens and finished at 21?
I do have a very retentive memory and I'm pretty sure I recall the last time your teaching creds were subject to discussion that that's what you posted. I do apologise if I'm mistaken.”
“Is that the one size fits all school of teaching methodology? I expect your methods might have become a little more sophisticated if you'd have taught for any length of time, but as I recall you taught for two years, was it, starting while you were still in your teens and finished at 21?
I do have a very retentive memory and I'm pretty sure I recall the last time your teaching creds were subject to discussion that that's what you posted. I do apologise if I'm mistaken.”
You might want to have a look at the T&Cs for posting on this forum. Personal attacks are not OK. And yes, you are very much mistaken.
Originally Posted by wazzyboy:
“Carol's "attitude" seems fine to me, she is clearly willing to learn even if she isn't naturally able or confident.”
“Carol's "attitude" seems fine to me, she is clearly willing to learn even if she isn't naturally able or confident.”
Nothing wrong with it at all. It must have been scary to dance on TV for the first time, and not just that but she was going to be judged against more naturally able, or in some cases, more dance-experienced, contestants. Carol is indeed willing to learn but does seem to lack confidence that she can do it, and I hope Pasha can help her get over that.
Originally Posted by wazzyboy:
“Carol's "attitude" seems fine to me, she is clearly willing to learn even if she isn't naturally able or confident.”
“Carol's "attitude" seems fine to me, she is clearly willing to learn even if she isn't naturally able or confident.”
Carols willingness to learn is comendable, if she was with a teacher with only a couple of years experience she would get nowhere through no fault of her own, but with Pasha guiding her on her Strictly journey the sky is the limit.
Originally Posted by Nicky_Gardenov:
“she seems nice, but she isn't really too popular on social media.
Peter the Ego Andre, has 3 million twitter followers, it would be a nightmare having him until the final.
Anita Rani seems really nice, and she can dance.
so i agree with Nina Blake. Anita, Georgia and Helen as my favourites.
Anthony was underscored and Daniel was overscored.”
“she seems nice, but she isn't really too popular on social media.
Peter the Ego Andre, has 3 million twitter followers, it would be a nightmare having him until the final.
Anita Rani seems really nice, and she can dance.
so i agree with Nina Blake. Anita, Georgia and Helen as my favourites.
Anthony was underscored and Daniel was overscored.”
Social media followers and 'likes' can be read into a bit too much though. Mark Wright, at present, has 2.8 million followers on twitter. I don't know how many of them are post-strictly but it is far more than the other 3 finalists do. His followers may have helped him get to the final but he came fourth.
I do agree Anthony was underscored, and think Otlile did a great job choreographing for the injured celebrity.
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