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Karis
24-09-2015
Originally Posted by LoobyLouThe1st:
“Oh dear. I thought Jenna was telling us all how she is an intelligent woman. She needs to learn how to spell then....”

Media manipulation at its lowes... finest!

She just comes across as a bad role model and, dare I say it, if that's the way she behaves with children, a poor excuse for a mother.

Again, I just HOPE it was all for the cameras
Karis
24-09-2015
Originally Posted by Bionic01:
“Her view of the world doesn't seem to be in reality so I'd take her opinion and terrible spelling with a pinch of salt”

This exactly. She'd stab someone in the heart and her version of events was that they ran at her knife!
DiamondDoll
24-09-2015
Originally Posted by Karis:
“Media manipulation at its lowes... finest!

She just comes across as a bad role model and, dare I say it, if that's the way she behaves with children, a poor excuse for a mother.

Again, I just HOPE it was all for the cameras”


It is somewhat telling that her children live with their father.
nattoyaki
24-09-2015
S we finally get the full story from Vicki, and it's exactly what many of us pieced together from social media.

Just hope Vicki does see the doctor, she was silly to walk away from the x-ray when already in hospital (but people in shock do strange things) and I do hope she presses charges against that awful woman.
Penny Crayon
24-09-2015
Originally Posted by nattoyaki:
“S we finally get the full story from Vicki, and it's exactly what many of us pieced together from social media.

Just hope Vicki does see the doctor, she was silly to walk away from the x-ray when already in hospital (but people in shock do strange things) and I do hope she presses charges against that awful woman.”

She didn't actually go to hospital. She was checked over by para medics at the studio.
nattoyaki
24-09-2015
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“She didn't actually go to hospital. She was checked over by para medics at the studio.”

In her video interview I thought she said she went to the hospital by ambulance but had had enough by 1am so didn't wait for the x-ray and went home
Philip_Clarke
24-09-2015
Did Jenna actually do anything?
She was just a witness to the chaos surely?
coke_pepper
24-09-2015
Janis chucked a chair, then she didn't. Viki Gangsta and Janis were going to continue before Viki remembered she'd been hit by a glass and was rushed to hospital but she wasn't. It's all bunkum.
Honeybadger
24-09-2015
Originally Posted by nattoyaki:
“S we finally get the full story from Vicki, and it's exactly what many of us pieced together from social media.

Just hope Vicki does see the doctor, she was silly to walk away from the x-ray when already in hospital (but people in shock do strange things) and I do hope she presses charges against that awful woman.”



She honestly doesn't need an X-Ray or anything else.

The risk of a skull fracture or cerebral bleed from that mechanism of injury is very, very,very small to non existent unless she is on medication that might increases her risk of a bleed (in which case the paramedics would have insisted on taking her to hospital).
X-Ray is no longer the investigation of choice even so, CT is.

That article is so over egging the pudding and sensationalising the situation that I personally have just lost most of my sympathy for Michelle. It is terrible that she was hurt and I felt very sorry for her but now, for me, she is coming across as a desperate attention seeker.

I still think Ais was as bad as Farrah assuming the "facts" we have are true. She threw champagne in what was obviously a premeditated attack given her Twitter in the days before. Farrah's reaction was completely out of order but at least was not premeditated.

Completely loathsome lot all of them.
treefr0g
24-09-2015
You wouldn't get men behaving like this
Sun Tzu.
24-09-2015
I can't picture Janice picking up a chair and throwing it. I smell BS.
Lily Darling
24-09-2015
The best of luck to the police trying to get an unbiased statement from anyone, including the audience. When the police look at the statements and then the footage, any chance they won't match. Lol
CLL Dodge
24-09-2015
Originally Posted by Lily Darling:
“The best of luck to the police trying to get an unbiased statement from anyone, including the audience. When the police look at the statements and then the footage, any chance they won't match. Lol”

Fortunatley they do have the footage so anyone giving luridly inaccurate statements is going to look stupid.
nattoyaki
24-09-2015
Originally Posted by Honeybadger:
“She honestly doesn't need an X-Ray or anything else.

The risk of a skull fracture or cerebral bleed from that mechanism of injury is very, very,very small to non existent unless she is on medication that might increases her risk of a bleed (in which case the paramedics would have insisted on taking her to hospital).
X-Ray is no longer the investigation of choice even so, CT is.
...”

Please see post #92.
Honeybadger
24-09-2015
What is post #92?

I see she has apparently had an MRI which most people would not normally get for any of the symptoms she is describing.

I find it quite hard to understand how she has managed concussion and whiplash from the injury described but odd things happen. Even so, neither concussion or whiplash would normally merit scanning.

I'm sorry but for me this episode is starting to look like all the worst of our increasingly Americanised approach to suing for everything.

In terms of Farrah potentially blinding her, it is equally possible that she could have been blinded by Aiselene swinging a glass to throw champagne close to her face as seen in the last clip before the BBOTs feed ended. If Ais had misjudged she could have glassed Michelle in the face causing exactly the kind of injuries Michelle is speculating Farrah could have caused.

Champagne did apparently end up in Michelle and Jenna's eyes so how anybody including Michelle can say what Aiselene did is acceptable is beyond me. People even ridiculing the idea that what Ais did is assault (it is; if a stranger picked a fight with you in a pub and threw a drink at you it would be assault).

I am sorry Michelle was hurt and I can understand it would be emotionally traumatic but I still think there is a massive and sensationist overreaction coming from her along with a sense of what Ais did is okay because Michelle likes her and it was just normal high jinks. But her interviews are suggesting Farrah is guilty of a criminal offence (she might be but I do not see how she is and Aislene is not).

Sorry but I think Farrah and Aislene are as bad as each other and I think Michelle is being over the top and biased with her response. I was a fan of hers, I'm not any more and I hope I never see Ais on my screen again.
Trumbles
24-09-2015
Originally Posted by Honeybadger:
“In terms of Farrah potentially blinding her, it is equally possible that she could have been blinded by Aiselene swinging a glass to throw champagne close to her face as seen in the last clip before the BBOTs feed ended. If Ais had misjudged she could have glassed Michelle in the face causing exactly the kind of injuries Michelle is speculating Farrah could have caused.”

Um.

Really?
Honeybadger
24-09-2015
Yes really, it was my personal theory about how she had been injured until the "facts" started emerging.
Veri
24-09-2015
Originally Posted by Trumbles:
“The Mirror/Aisleyne article is slightly peculiar in more ways than one. She doesn't spell out that it was Farrah's glass-throwing which caused the injury, but the article mentions that VM was hurt (indeed 'hospitalised') near the beginning, and shortly after that Farrah is 'to blame' for the incident overall. As Aisleyne denies that she threw a glass and Farrah's glass-throwing is the only violent act mentioned, (Janice's chair-wielding isn't included!) I was taking it as implied. (The word used in their 1.04 update further down the page is 'glassed'.)
...”

Yes, the article / web page says Vicky was hospitalised -- contrary to Vicky's own account -- but that's not in the part that's giving Aisleyne's version of what happened.

What it quotes Aisleyne as saying is: "[Farrah] threw the glass at me. It smashed all over the floor and the desk. Because it didn't get me she picked up another glass, threw it and it smashed. She picked up Jenna's glass and threw it."

Aisleyne doesn't say anything about Vicky being hit by a glass, or about it shattering on Vicky's head -- both claimed by Vicky -- or about Vicky being injured in any other way. Vicky also said the panel didn't resume because the producers watched the footage and saw how hard the glass hit her. Aisleyne doesn't say that either.

Instead, Aisleyne says "the three of us [Aisleyne, Vicki and Janice] were asked to continue on the panel. We sat down to do [the show] but we were all so upset they decided not to continue.".

There's nothing in what they quote from Aisleyne that says or implies that Vicky was injured in any way, let alone by a glass.

Another difference is that Aisleyne says Jenna and Ferrah were escorted off the show, while Vicky says they just walked out.
Veri
24-09-2015
Originally Posted by Honeybadger:
“What is post #92?

I see she has apparently had an MRI which most people would not normally get for any of the symptoms she is describing.

I find it quite hard to understand how she has managed concussion and whiplash from the injury described but odd things happen. Even so, neither concussion or whiplash would normally merit scanning. ...”

I've tried to work out where the "MRI" claim is from.

There's a thread, "Vicky is pressing Charges", which links an ITV article that says "She was checked over by paramedics at the scene and later given an MRI, she said."

BUT that article seems to be based on what Vicky told the Mirror here.

Does that article say anything about an MRI scan? No.

It comes with a video of Vicky being interviewed.
Does Vicky say anything about an MRI scan in the video? No.

Indeed, at the time of that interview, at least, Vicky, hadn't been to hospital, or been hospitalised (contrary to what the Mirror's been claiming) or been to A&E.

I suppose it's possible she's had an MRI scan since, but there doesn't seem to be any good source for that claim. Papers repeat the claim because it was in another paper, or because it was in the ITV story, but the only original source seems to be the Mirror account that doesn't say anything about an MRI scan.

If we look at the Mirror's own "Vicki Michelle is pressing charges" article, it says "The 'Allo 'Allo! actress suffered whiplash and concussion" -- but nothing about an MRI scan.
dialectic
24-09-2015
Strange that Jenna uses the word 'melee', as does Vicki in her spoken interview. Both Vicki and Ash use descriptions referring to the Wild West. It all appears a bit too contrived.
AngelJean
24-09-2015
[quote=Jimmy Connors;79759636]The above doesn't even make sense.

Why are all the Twitter descriptions of what happened so cryptic?[/QUOTE]

BIB

I think when people are either vague or cryptic then it is usually because they know full well that if the say to much they will make themselves look bad and incriminate themselves.

Aisleyne clearly seems to have started it by throwing her wine a Farrah. As she was so far from Farrah it hit Jenna instead. From what Vicki said, Farrah retaliated by throwing 2 glasses one of which hit her in the back of the head. She blames Farrah because Aisleyne only threw wine which happens all the time on X Factor and is fun apparently.

Whatever happened the production team were completely in the wrong and stirred the whole thing up. The show was meant to be about the latest 2 evictees not the ones who were evicted before. Rylan set the ball rolling by asking Aisleyne if she missed Farrah. I don't blame Rylan he was doing what he was told by the production team who were hoping for a fight.

If Rylan wants to be taken seriously as a presenter he needs to decide if he really needs to be carrying on with this load of nonsense.
Virgil Tracy
24-09-2015
Originally Posted by Lily Darling:
“The best of luck to the police trying to get an unbiased statement from anyone, including the audience. When the police look at the statements and then the footage, any chance they won't match. Lol”

imagine Farrah and Jenna's statements , full of - "sideways , fakeass mo'fo's , dickleg satans " etc.
haphash
24-09-2015
Originally Posted by Sun Tzu.:
“I can't picture Janice picking up a chair and throwing it. I smell BS.”

Same here, this is Jenna trying to discredit Janice. Vicky says that Janice tried to protect her and I believe that version of events.
hawaythelads69
24-09-2015
Jenna Jameson today confirmed that Janice Dickinson went batshxt crazy on Farrah Abrahams when she gave her the worst beating with a chair ever seen outside of WWE Wrestlemania.
The 60 year old Dickinson who throughout the entire series of CBB had been excused Task trials on medical conditions, and had appeared disorientated and rambling on CBBOTS show up until this point rolled back the years as she employed her Sensei Yoga skills in a way not seen since Mr Miagi in The Karate Kid 3 handed out a can of whoopass.
Flailing a chair around her head like a ninja with a numbjucker she reigned down blows on Farrah Abrahams as she let out her battle cry of I'm the original supermodel and whos the Queen of reality TV now Bxxxch???
Janice at this point in time has not been available for comment as she's had to have a nice lie down to recover.

all the best
Haway xx
coke_pepper
24-09-2015
Originally Posted by Honeybadger:
“What is post #92?

I see she has apparently had an MRI which most people would not normally get for any of the symptoms she is describing.

I find it quite hard to understand how she has managed concussion and whiplash from the injury described but odd things happen. Even so, neither concussion or whiplash would normally merit scanning.

I'm sorry but for me this episode is starting to look like all the worst of our increasingly Americanised approach to suing for everything.

In terms of Farrah potentially blinding her, it is equally possible that she could have been blinded by Aiselene swinging a glass to throw champagne close to her face as seen in the last clip before the BBOTs feed ended. If Ais had misjudged she could have glassed Michelle in the face causing exactly the kind of injuries Michelle is speculating Farrah could have caused.

Champagne did apparently end up in Michelle and Jenna's eyes so how anybody including Michelle can say what Aiselene did is acceptable is beyond me. People even ridiculing the idea that what Ais did is assault (it is; if a stranger picked a fight with you in a pub and threw a drink at you it would be assault).

I am sorry Michelle was hurt and I can understand it would be emotionally traumatic but I still think there is a massive and sensationist overreaction coming from her along with a sense of what Ais did is okay because Michelle likes her and it was just normal high jinks. But her interviews are suggesting Farrah is guilty of a criminal offence (she might be but I do not see how she is and Aislene is not).

Sorry but I think Farrah and Aislene are as bad as each other and I think Michelle is being over the top and biased with her response. I was a fan of hers, I'm not any more and I hope I never see Ais on my screen again.”

Well done. Glad to see someone posting an objective view with an undertanding of British law(and basic healthcare)
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