After reading the article in the daily mirror it suggests that farrah threw the first glass which hit Vicki , Janice then threw the chair in attempt to stop farrah hitting anyone again but farrah still threw it after already hurting Vicki.

Vicki says that farrah and Jenna walked out of the studio and makes no mention of farrah checking she is ok

If you hit the wrong target after your first throw you wouldn't throw another glass would you?

Also why on earth didn't she check to see if Vicki ok seeing as she Threw the glass?
Surprised Jenna didn't check Vicki was ok and just walked out with farrah

Before we go any further I need to know exactly how many glasses were in the BotS studio.

Of course they wouldn't, deluded trash the pair of them. Poor Vicki and good on you Janice, should have thrown that chair a little harder

The Mirror? Where Aisleyne has a regular BB column? Why was only Aisleyne detained? If all of the above is correct the Police would have detained Farrah believe me.

It says it on this site too Vicki may press charges
http://www.tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv...her-fight.html

And Aisleyne's account doesn't make any mention of Vicky being hurt ... or of a chair being thrown.


Why not?

It's more if you hit your target that you wouldn't try again.

Besides, it didn't hit Vicky as if the whole glass truck her. It broke when it hit the desk and maybe a piece struck Vicky.


Aisleyne's version also says Farrah and Jenna were "escorted off the show", rather than walking out on their own decision. Aisleyne's version also doesn't say Vicky was hit by anything.

That's just based on an article in the Mirror.

I take it you haven't read Vicky's account of the incident or seen her interview/video?

Some people have somehow gotten the idea that Farrah threw three glasses.

It's more likely it was at most two, he own and Jenna's.

I don't know where the three comes from.

We're never going to get an accurate account without footage.
Janice kept repeating that "my truth" mantra all series. We're seeing it in action.

I have read her account in the Mirror, and even in that she's just hit by the base of the glass and she was looking the other way. I see no reason to believe her account over anyone else's, and it's much more plausible that the glass hit a hard surface and pieces flew about, as in Aisleyne's version, then that it shattered in Vicky's hair as she (who was looking the other way) claims.

Oh, I agree; but people are still getting things like the three glasses from somewhere. I'd like to know whether there's a source that actually says that, or whether it's based on some misunderstanding.

Really? Is that how you read it? Did you see the video interview? It didn't sound anything like what you're describing.

Was she detained? Do we know this or is it just the build up of speculating on conjecture that took place last night. I did read that she had been detained but within an hour or so I also read that she was at home tweeting.

So some people have got confused and are saying three - surely it's a tad irrelevant - throwing ONE glass in close proximity is inexcusable - any normal person who did that in the heat of the moment and on reflex would surely be a bit horrified at the realisation of what they'd done.


To pick up another glass and do the same again after hitting someone full on the head is the behaviour of a mad man. But as you say - at the most it was only two and not three - thank God for that eh

well at least farrah respects her elders, after janice through a chair on her back (LOL), she went mad but didn't hit janice back

I'm watching the video now; and in the video version, it was with the 2nd glass that Vicky was hit, which eliminates this point:


But Vicky's story doesn't stay straight, because later she has the first glass hit her. The earlier, 2nd glass, version fits together better, so I think she just misspoke the 2nd time.

On other points:

* Two glasses were thrown, not three.
* Janice picked up and pushed a chair (rather than threw one).
* But later Vicky says Janice "sort of lobbed it".
* Vicky wasn't taken to hospital but was looked at by a paramedic.
* The police ask her agent -- not her -- whether she wants to press charges.
* There's nothing that quite matches Aisleyne's "We sat down but we were all so upset they decided not to continue."
* Instead, they decided not to continue with the show after they watched the footage.
* Farrah and Jenna "just walked out", with nothing about them being escorted or removed.

It's relevant for some things and not for others. So what?

If you think what I say is irrelevant, why not ignore it rather than waxing sarcastic?


There's no good reason to think it hit her full on the head, rather than shattered first, as I've already explained; and it's more likely the 2nd glass when Vicky was hit, as I've now also explained.

Would you hit Janice brandishing a chair. I wouldn't.

Yes, that's how I read it.

Why would I post that if it wasn't how I read it?

Remember that Vicky was looking the other way when glass hit her hair.

The picture in this article certainly looks like Farrah was escorted off the premises - one guy has her arm and the other is carrying her handbag. I suppose this is one of her clams of assault.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...S-episode.html

The article says "escorted", but the caption of the picture where one guy has her arm and the other her handbag says "Celebrity Big Brother's Farrah Abraham cut a concerned figure as she arrived back at her Hertfordshire hotel."

But if they were escorted, that disagrees with Vicky's account in which they "just walked out" and agrees with Aisleyne's. Perhaps Ash is also right about the glasses shattering on the desk and floor.

It's not ambiguous to me.

I'm all for keeping an open mind - the thing is - if you open up your mind too much your brains might fall out.

I saw and heard enough of Farrah's behaviour in the house to believe two accounts (Aisleyne's and Vicky's) about what happened last night.

The details may differ slightly but I imagine it was a chaotic and very frightening couple of minutes - I don't suppose anyone was composed enough to count the number of glasses or the order in which they broke or struck.

I was looking at a different picture, which is why I needed to edit. See the revised post above.


The two accounts disagree, and the "details" include things people were using as significant in this thread, for instance where someone said "if you hit the wrong target after your first throw you wouldn't throw another glass would you?" That assumes it was the 2nd glass when Vicky was hit.

And where the same post said "Surprised Jenna didn't check Vicki was ok and just walked out with farrah" which assumes they "just walked out", as in Jenna's version.

And also about whether the glass broke in Vicky's hair or -- as in Aisleyne's version -- on the desk and floor.

If that's what makes you believe in something it's not based on anything factual. That's cognitive bias.

In online stories it suggests that Vicki may sue Farrah for assault. But I don't see how that works if Farrah didn't attack her, and instead Vicki was hit by a glass by accident.
Surely for an assault charge intent needs to be evident doesn't it?