Vicky never claimed the glass broke in her hair. She said it struck her on the back of the head really hard. I imagine it may then have hit the table/floor and then broke. Apparently a second glass was thrown as well which also broke.

I would think it was quite scary and chaotic - it's hardly surprising that accounts vary slightly under those circumstances. Personally I find it pretty disgusting that glasses were thrown at close range. I don't see the importance of haggling over how many and where they broke. A person was hurt - glasses were thrown - Farrah threw them.

There is a Police investigation underway - at least there will be video footage.

'Through a chair?' That made me LOL.

She did: "She whacked the glass hard like a discus. It was the base of the glass and it shattered in my hair."

I quoted it as shattered in one post and paraphrased it as broke in another. I don't regard that difference in wording as significant.


If you don't see any importance to how many or where they broke, then why not just ignore the posts that discuss those issues?

I think there's a significant difference between Farrah throwing a glass and hitting Vicky square in the head so hard it "shattered in her hair" and Farrah throwing a glass that shatters on the desk with some fragments hitting Vicky.

Similarly those who write such things as " but farrah still threw it after already hurting Vicki" must care whether it was the 1st or 2nd glass when Vicky was hit. This whole thread has the title "Farrah threw another glass after hitting Vicki ??"

deleted

Cos I can't really be arsed to argue the 'finer' pints.

It's Threw! not through,not that I actually care about who did or didn't.

the thing that intrigues me most is the report that said farrah received medical treatment because she was assaulted twice. I mean, that sounds quite serious, like she was punched or something. a little bit different to vickie being caught in the crossfire of the flying glass, because farrah's intended target when she threw the glass was aisleyne, right after aisleyne started it all when she threw one.

Is there independent confirmation that she was hit? Aisleyne's account doesn't seem to say anything about it, and she gives a different reason why the show didn't continue. Vicky's version says it was because they looked at the footage and saw how hard the glass hit her.

In Vicky's account, she was looking the other way when she was hit; she may not know precisely what hit her.

The Mirror article says she has a lump; but I can't find Vicky saying it in a direct quote or in the video.

Aisleyne really is a joke .
She says 'if I knew Farrah was going to throw glasses back at her she wouldn't have thrown the champagne in the first place

Great defence that Aisleyne in court, when you admitted you started the whole fracas by throwing the drink .

The whole incident was a disgrace. I point the finger of blame at the producers, by putting Farrah, Aisleyne, jenna and Janice Dickinson in the same room it was always going to be a lethal combination.

At the same time, Aisleyne did start this whole incident, although Farrahs reaction was horrible.

It's not cognitive bias to consider her past behaviour. It's common sense. I've enjoyed reading your posts on this issue, they've been empathic to Farrah and made me think about it in new ways, but if we're going to look at Aisleyne's past performance, such as her tweet about throwing a drink at Farrah and her previous displays on the show, we have to look at Farrah's too.. And quite honestly, I've never seen a human being rage for as long and hard as she did after the row with Natasha. So common sense tells me the girl has a temper problem. She may or may not need to be provoked first, that's another debate, but we've seen with our own eyes that she'll up the ante and has very poor control over her emotions, and that she can't take responsibility for her behaviour either. There's a real blind spot.

And since Im on the subject of looking at this in the round, when it comes to believing people's accounts, neither Jenna nor Farrah are reliable narrators. We saw both of them engage daily in projection and show a complete lack of self-awareness, we saw Jenna flat out lie on occasion (eg telling Natasha she'd never said a bad word about her) and Farrah before coming on the show has been caught out in several lies (eg claiming she didn't actively make and market her first porn tape). So I'm no more inclined to believe their version of events than I am Ais or Vicky, who were both biased against Farrah.