Reading all the stories about the BBOTS fight I beleive it was all set up by BB Producers purely for another publicity bump prior to the live final and to have it frnt page news on the day of the final.

If you look closely Farrah and Ashleyene had champagne flute glasses while Jenna, Vicki amd Janice had blue plastic tumblers , all plastic. Farrah was seated to the left with Ash far right. It was all orchestrated from the beginning with McLean from the night before and the tone and questions of Rylan.

CBB producers wanted a publicity bump at the beginning of this series so they got rid of Tila and her nazi photoshopped pic front page, BBOTS fight was also a set up.

CBB producers just cant help themselves and I suspect another reason to withhold Farrahs sizeable fee.

Tumbler-gate!!! You've rumbled them!

the ds forum can be funny sometimes...
selectively "aware" and "unaware" of how tv is made... depending on how they want to accuse the show of being unfair or faked or "complain to ofcom"

so if they apply the same "why am i being shown this" question to what is a recorded and edited show as they do on the highlights... you have to ask why did they "cut it" as the scene was about to take off unless it was to leave in the more gullible something they will fanatsise into more than it was - as they always do...

(the sun & mirror are not reliable witnesses as they publish exaggerated easy celeb/tv "controversy" for the popular entertainment it provides and the hook it has for their paying readers)

Jenna had a glass, as did Vicki who also had a tumbler, Janice was the only one with just a tumbler, she'd probably asked for water not cava

agreed!

They only need to give Aisleyne lots of free booze and leave her to it. No need to do any publicity stunt. The women needs to stop drinking so much. You could see the difference IT MADE TO HER, on big brother. Her drinking and not drinking side. I guess put Farrah and Aiselyne on the same panel, you're going to get fireworks. I doubt the producers wanted a physical fight. In my opinion Aiselyne should never have been on the panel after drinking that much. They know she can't handle her drink from her recent stint on BB. All the explosive rows she had in the house were after drinking too much.

I am of the opinion that the production were willing for something to happen and put things in place and loaded the autocue etc.. hoping for a verbal spat of some sort.

However, I don't believe for one minute that anyone really wanted the violent and aggressive reactions that followed. Nevertheless, these situations can get out of hand and the people that set this panel up have to take responsibility for their part in creating the potential for people getting physically hurt.

As for tumbler sizes and champagne flutes, I honestly don't give a stuff.

I agree to most of your post. But once a quest is seated there responsible for there own actions.

Well of course, that goes without saying.

Why do you think that the people who set the panel up should be responsible?

Because ultimately (and obviously) they are in control of the environment. Apparently Aisleyne had already stated an intent on her twitter feed about hurling champagne at Farrah, the person who is charge of all things BB twitter would surely have been aware of this and I assume may have brought this up at various production meetings.

Then they feed Rylan lines through the autocue and earpiece that sets Aisleyne directly against Farrah when it was primarily a show about the two evictees (Jenna and Janice) and then BOOM the situation happened.

If I organise a dog fight, who would be more to blame for the ensuing violence and bloodbath, the wound up/hungry dogs or me for organising the spectacle?

Hope that makes my stance from my first post clearer.

According to posters on here ash has made many threats on her twitter page but never carried then throw.
Ash has a mind of her own and has the freedom to choose if she wants to follow BB dog fight with farrah.


You are the owner of the pet so you take responsibility for the animal.
A human has freedom of choice unlike a dog.

I think you credit the producers with too much intelligence. They obviously wanted a slanging match, but it didn't occur to their tiny little minds that it might go too far.

Anyway, getting a front page spread on the same day as the final maybe a wee bit too late to affect viewing figures.

I'm really not saying anything diametrically opposed to what you are saying. You asked me to elaborate, and I did. If you want to take things to the Nth degree in complexity and detail, then I'm going to have to bail out.....oh and yes I agree about the dogs. That's why I posed the question.


Is what I said originally. I mean who could have seen this coming? I mean really?

I don't want a debate as i'm no good at them.
Thanks Panda Eyes,

You are good!

Thank you also for making me think and waking me up, I still had foggy sleep brain

I'm like that 24/7.

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You do!