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Old 24-09-2015, 17:20
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I wanted to catch the CS llive show (very well executed that was) so I decided to give ED a go for the first time in ages.
Once again when called on to do some actual acting Ryan was as dry as a stone and found wanting. Watching him trying to squeeze out some kind of emotion was like watching someone with constipation sitting on the loo trying to squeeze one out.
He was so wooden he again made Kelvin Fletcher look like an Oscar winner.Ryan should be showing some signs of improving by now but he isn't.
Funny how other actors are slagged off on here yet Robert is one of the most popular male characters on here and Victoria one of the most popular females and played by a shockingly bad actress. This actress is somehow getting worse and worse the older she gets.
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Old 24-09-2015, 17:26
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His lack of tears was no different than Laurie Brett on live night for EE, or Tina O'Brien last night or many other tearless performances and yet they were both still fantastic. I am not being biased but Ryan was good last night. Not his best but not his worst. Not every actor is good at crying. Silly of you to call him an awful actor based on one episode.
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Old 24-09-2015, 17:35
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His lack of tears was no different than Laurie Brett on live night for EE, or Tina O'Brien last night or many other tearless performances and yet they were both still fantastic. I am not being biased but Ryan was good last night. Not his best but not his worst. Not every actor is good at crying. Silly of you to call him an awful actor based on one episode.
I am not basing my opinion on one episode. He is dreadful at trying to convey any kind of emotion. All he has is acting locker is the ability to give a smug smirk.This is a classic soap case of a good role given to a poor actor.
Tina O'brien was supposed to be frightened, that does not mean she had to cry. She was very very good last night.
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Old 24-09-2015, 17:37
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Ahh i see. Well it's down to opinion. I think he is one of the few decent male actors on that show. He's not as bad as the guy who plays David, whose crying the other week was much worse during Alicia's exit and when confronting his dad through his horrible behaviour.
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Old 24-09-2015, 17:39
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His lack of tears was no different than Laurie Brett on live night for EE, or Tina O'Brien last night or many other tearless performances and yet they were both still fantastic. I am not being biased but Ryan was good last night. Not his best but not his worst. Not every actor is good at crying. Silly of you to call him an awful actor based on one episode.
I definitely saw tears in Tina O'Brien's eyes last night. She can definitely emote.
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Old 24-09-2015, 18:06
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Ahh i see. Well it's down to opinion. I think he is one of the few decent male actors on that show. He's not as bad as the guy who plays David, whose crying the other week was much worse during Alicia's exit and when confronting his dad through his horrible behaviour.


Bringing other poor actors into this doesn't alter the fact that Ryan cannot do the basic requirement of every actor. It's unfair to see some actors get ripped to pieces for their acting while others get away with it just because the character is popular.
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Old 24-09-2015, 18:07
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I definitely saw tears in Tina O'Brien's eyes last night. She can definitely emote.
I thought she was the stand out actor last night.
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Old 24-09-2015, 18:10
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Ryan Hawley is very overrated. I wouldn't say he's abysmal, but he's nothing amazing as far as soap actors go.
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Old 24-09-2015, 18:31
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He wasn't great last night IMO. I thought Kelvin was very good in comparison. I think Ryan plays the menacing villain quite well but that's about it.
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Old 24-09-2015, 18:42
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Ryan is an absolutely fantastic actor, absolutely no doubt. He's not the best crier, I admit that as a huge fan. But if you've seen Ryan as a person, out of character, he is miles away from Robert Sugden. Like, it's quite scary.

A good actor isn't based on whether they can cry or not.

I find it funny though, Ryan's not a good actor for not being the best crier, yet Danny Miller is constantly slated for crying. Can't win really.

But it's all subjective. One person's Benedict Cumberbatch. is another person's Sarah Harding.
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Old 24-09-2015, 18:44
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Ryan is an absolutely fantastic actor, absolutely no doubt. He's not the best crier, I admit that as a huge fan. But if you've seen Ryan as a person, out of character, he is miles away from Robert Sugden. Like, it's quite scary.

A good actor isn't based on whether they can cry or not.

I find it funny though, Ryan's not a good actor for not crying, yet Danny Miller is constantly slated for crying. Can't win really.
I agree.
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Old 24-09-2015, 18:44
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i beg to disagree, OP... ryan hawley is perfect (re)casting for robert... not only does he resemble the old robert physically but he is believable as the robert of today psychologically and emotionally... he totally owns the role (as karl davies did the younger robert) and gives us an alive, dynamic, multi-faceted, interesting robert, on the one hand selfish, manipulative and always looking out for number one, on the other giving hints of a softer side and possibility of actually falling for another man... he keeps viewers on their toes, and the balancing act to keep his heart and mind ambiguous is a feat in itself...

that's why i'm not bothered with lack of tears...last night's scene anyway is him acting to the hilt to wriggle out of a tight hole and andy is supposed to see through him...

sorry to lift these quotes from another thread:

but robert in the interrogation room is utter genius, effortless, masterful, on point, seductive... ED should give ryan a bonus for that scene alone...
This is true, not all actors are good at everything, Ryan's weak point is crying. But now that I think about it could he have been playing Robert forcing out some crocodile tears?
He's definitely better at being a bastard than trying to care.


not all actors are perfect, they have their strengths and weaknesses, and with ryan, i definitely think his strengths far outweigh any thespic weaknesses in some parts coz all in all, his robert is compelling, exciting and very much alive in front of my eyes. i can't think of today's robert as anyone else except ryan, especially when he's with aaron
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Old 24-09-2015, 18:45
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Ryan is an absolutely fantastic actor, absolutely no doubt. He's not the best crier, I admit that as a huge fan. But if you've seen Ryan as a person, out of character, he is miles away from Robert Sugden. Like, it's quite scary.

A good actor isn't based on whether they can cry or not.

I find it funny though, Ryan's not a good actor for not crying, yet Danny Miller is constantly slated for crying. Can't win really.
No, a good actor is judged on whether he can show a range of emotions.

I like Ryan, but I'd say he's still learning.
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Old 24-09-2015, 18:47
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But it's all subjective. One person's Benedict Cumberbatch. is another person's Sarah Harding.
It's not that subjective, really. I don't like Cumberbatch, but he's a decent actor. No one questions that. Sarah Harding isn't an actor. No one questions that either.

One person can convincingly play the role of another person, the other one can't.
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Old 24-09-2015, 18:58
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Ryan is an absolutely fantastic actor, absolutely no doubt. He's not the best crier, I admit that as a huge fan. But if you've seen Ryan as a person, out of character, he is miles away from Robert Sugden. Like, it's quite scary.

A good actor isn't based on whether they can cry or not.

I find it funny though, Ryan's not a good actor for not being the best crier, yet Danny Miller is constantly slated for crying. Can't win really.
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But it's all subjective. One person's Benedict Cumberbatch. is another person's Sarah Harding.

It's not just about him not being able to cry. When he saw Katie laying there dead his reaction was so unbelievably wooden. It was like that person laying there dead had never meat anything to him. Just all wrong.
And Ryan being nothing like Robert does not mean anything. I could go in front of a camera and act nothing like I am in real life.That wouldn't mean I was a good actor.
Ryan is like Ross Kemp's Grant in EE. Very popular character played by an extremely one note limited actor. The opposite is Lesley Coulson in EE. Fine actress playing a very dull character.
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Old 24-09-2015, 19:07
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He's a very good actor and is versatile. I agree about the tear thing though - it would have made the scene a bit better.
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Old 24-09-2015, 20:58
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His lack of tears was no different than Laurie Brett on live night for EE, or Tina O'Brien last night or many other tearless performances and yet they were both still fantastic. I am not being biased but Ryan was good last night. Not his best but not his worst. Not every actor is good at crying. Silly of you to call him an awful actor based on one episode.
I saw a fair amount of tears from Tina. Paula Lane (Kylie) was the one who struggled a bit to turn on the waterworks but got there in the end.

I am not basing my opinion on one episode. He is dreadful at trying to convey any kind of emotion. All he has is acting locker is the ability to give a smug smirk.This is a classic soap case of a good role given to a poor actor.
Tina O'brien was supposed to be frightened, that does not mean she had to cry. She was very very good last night.
That reminds me of the Nathan Wylde actor. His crying scenes were positively painful.
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Old 24-09-2015, 21:44
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Ryan Hawley is one of the strongest males in the show - he definitely showed it tonight - from being a horrible bully to Aaron (saying things about his sexuality and Jackson), to acting all sympathetic to Andy (although we know he didn't mean it).

I wonder who will shoot him tomorrow.
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Old 24-09-2015, 22:02
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I actually think he's much better when he's being devious and cunning. He was fantastic in the scenes with the police where he made out Andy was a homophobe

I think he is a decent actor and perfectly acceptable for soap.
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Old 24-09-2015, 22:57
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Ryan Hawley is one of the strongest males in the show - he definitely showed it tonight - from being a horrible bully to Aaron (saying things about his sexuality and Jackson), to acting all sympathetic to Andy (although we know he didn't mean it).

I wonder who will shoot him tomorrow.
Saying he's one of the best male actors in the show is not saying much at all. The show is full of some of the poorest hammiest actors anywhere on TV. Those who play Rishi. Jai. David. Bob. Dan. Pete. Finn. Lachlan. Marlon. Kirin and worst of Jimmy, are as bad as they get. Even the best male Jeff Hordley couldn't get a tv role when he left.
The acting in ED is not good. It's only now slightly better than HO levels
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Old 24-09-2015, 23:13
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The majority of the cast can't act anyway. Likes of Suranne Jones and Katherine Kelly were on Corrie and were still able to get acting work elsewhere after leaving same can't be said for the Emmerdale cast.
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Old 24-09-2015, 23:41
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Totally disagree, Ryan's excellent. His Robert is a million times better than the old one.

It's not that subjective, really. I don't like Cumberbatch, but he's a decent actor. No one questions that. Sarah Harding isn't an actor. No one questions that either.

One person can convincingly play the role of another person, the other one can't.
I agree.
Do you mean you dislike Cumberbatch as an actor or a person?
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Old 24-09-2015, 23:44
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It's only a soap. I don't watch soaps, for Oscar worthy acting, I watch them for the storylines and characters and hope for decent enough acting, and Ryan is above decent. He portrays Robert perfectly and has made the character his own. Crying is very hard for actors/actress's.
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Old 25-09-2015, 00:02
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A lot of actors can't cry on cue. That doesn't prove their merit or talent as actors.
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Old 25-09-2015, 00:03
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He wasn't great last night IMO. I thought Kelvin was very good in comparison. I think Ryan plays the menacing villain quite well but that's about it.
I agree. Ryan is okay but last night he got outshone imo.
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