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Old 24-09-2015, 20:38
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So it looks like Ronnie or Vincent killed Charlie come on lets be honest its not really a huge secret.
But in typical DTC style. This storyline will drag will get blocked a lot then get bought up out of nowhere. DTC has said Halloween will get amazing. Don't mean anything to me nothing will come to an end.
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Old 24-09-2015, 20:40
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It does kind of feel as if everything is open ended at the moment.

Don't get me wrong, I do really like Eastenders, but when was the last time there was actually a conclusion to a big storyline?
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Old 24-09-2015, 20:41
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Jesus.

It's been one episode. What is wrong with a mystery? Personally I quite like the idea of it never being mentioned again and remaining a mystery.

I seem to remember a thread on here where people were suggesting stories for the show and someone mentioned it would be interesting if a character just disappeared one day. Many were fond of the idea.

Now you have it and people are kicking off.
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Old 24-09-2015, 20:44
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Jesus.

It's been one episode. What is wrong with a mystery? Personally I quite like the idea of it never being mentioned again and remaining a mystery.

I seem to remember a thread on here where people were suggesting stories for the show and someone mentioned it would be interesting if a character just disappeared one day. Many were fond of the idea.

Now you have it and people are kicking off.
I think it's just that everything seems to be open ended at the moment.

I agree that a bit of mystery is fun, but not every single storyline can be like this. It just seems to be that way at the moment.
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Old 24-09-2015, 21:06
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Jesus.

It's been one episode. What is wrong with a mystery? Personally I quite like the idea of it never being mentioned again and remaining a mystery.

I seem to remember a thread on here where people were suggesting stories for the show and someone mentioned it would be interesting if a character just disappeared one day. Many were fond of the idea.

Now you have it and people are kicking off.
Ive got nothing against a mystery I really enjoy them. But the problem with Eastenders at the moment theres to many storylines to even care. Nothing has came to a conclusion apart from Nick back in February. Its like DTC comes up with a really good idea a great story but hasn't got a clue how to end it.
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Old 24-09-2015, 21:08
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The exit seemed similar to That of Paul Truemen.
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Old 24-09-2015, 21:16
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It does kind of feel as if everything is open ended at the moment.

Don't get me wrong, I do really like Eastenders, but when was the last time there was actually a conclusion to a big storyline?
To be honest they did conclude the Lucy storyline. The reveal started another story, it's not really the same storyline.
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Old 24-09-2015, 21:17
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To be honest they did conclude the Lucy storyline. The reveal started another story, it's not really the same storyline.
Fair point.
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Old 24-09-2015, 21:20
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Sorry why would Halloween be big it's not that big an occasion in the uk
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Old 24-09-2015, 21:20
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The exit seemed similar to That of Paul Truemen.
If it's like Paul, Charlie will be dead. More likely that this exit is open-ended. Unless Dot gets a call from the police about identifying a body.
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Old 24-09-2015, 21:25
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Sorry why would Halloween be big it's not that big an occasion in the uk
It gives them the chance to add creepy elements without it being too farfetched like Michael's murder and masked Abby chasing Lauren
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Old 24-09-2015, 21:29
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Charlie could rock up at any time. Bit this will be dragged out.
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Old 24-09-2015, 21:47
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To be honest they did conclude the Lucy storyline. The reveal started another story, it's not really the same storyline.
I disagree, it's all the same storyline and it's being used to prop up the show which is a problem. I'm tired of it, especially now that so many know it was Bobby
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Old 24-09-2015, 22:04
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Sorry why would Halloween be big it's not that big an occasion in the uk
Depends on your perspective. Some people make a huge fuss over it, some do nothing.
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Old 24-09-2015, 22:09
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So what would people prefer? A one episode storyline? This is the first episode of the plot of his disappearance. We have NO idea whether this will be resolved in a week, a month, a year or ever.

What we do know is DTC likes his cameos and comebacks so I wouldn't be surprised if we see Charlie again at some point. However I for one would not be disappointed if we never found out.

As for Jake Moon and Paul Truman we know a hitman intercepted both (Paul's drove him away from the Square and Patrick identified his body), so I don't see the similarities.

If anything, the closest comparison is when Carl made Shirley disappear for a few months, and we all know how that ended.

I'm an EastEnders fan and quite happy to see it criticised but this is just ridiculous. It feels like bashing for bashings sake.
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Old 24-09-2015, 22:10
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So what would people prefer? A one episode storyline? This is the first episode of the plot of his disappearance. We have NO idea whether this will be resolved in a week, a month, a year or ever.

What we do know is DTC likes his cameos and comebacks so I wouldn't be surprised if we see Charlie again at some point. However I for one would not be disappointed if we never found out.

As for Jake Moon and Paul Truman we know a hitman intercepted both (Paul's drove him away from the Square and Patrick identified his body), so I don't see the similarities.

If anything, the closest comparison is when Carl made Shirley disappear for a few months, and we all know how that ended.

I'm an EastEnders fan and quite happy to see it criticised but this is just ridiculous. It feels like bashing for bashings sake.
I agree plus if they killed him off onscreen there'd be moaning about another unnecessary killing.
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Old 24-09-2015, 22:11
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I agree plus if they killed him off onscreen there'd be moaning about another unnecessary killing.
It's like people would've preferred another black cab exit. At least this is an interesting exit for the character.
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Old 24-09-2015, 22:15
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It's like people would've preferred another black cab exit. At least this is an interesting exit for the character.
I think people also dislike the damage it's done to existing characters.
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Old 24-09-2015, 22:16
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So, you're not a fan of long-running drama? When, in real life, do things just go away after a few weeks? They live with you. Long running stories, like the Who killed Lucy? storyline, are my favourite because they burn slowly and you can invest. Some work, some don't.

EastEnders is a show that we assume will never end. I mean, it may one day, but until we know about a finite point it's working towards, then surely we want it to keep surprising us? I wouldn't mind ever finding out what happened to Charlie Cotton. I think we will, but it could be a story revisited in five years or so, who knows? Or even when Matthew's older? Always the possibility.

Plus, sorry, but Dominic Treadwell-Collins has dragged this show up from its knees, given it a bed for the night, fed and watered it and allowed it to grow. He's given it spice and verve again. Not like how it used to be, but we'll never get that back. His show is the best show for this age. We may have guessed about the Jane twist, for example, but it was never spoiled.
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Old 24-09-2015, 22:19
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I think people also dislike the damage it's done to existing characters.
What damage is that? We know Ronnie is dark - she's a murderer.

We also know Vincent is dodgy but haven't yet found out an awful lot about him.

Ronnie using someone to dispose of someone is hardly character assassination. She's child obsessed and he threatened to take her baby away from her. It's totally IN character. She went to great lengths to get rid of Nick.

Lying to Dot perhaps is out of character, but I think Ronnie would do anything to protect those she loves.
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Old 24-09-2015, 22:25
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What damage is that? We know Ronnie is dark - she's a murderer.

We also know Vincent is dodgy but haven't yet found out an awful lot about him.

Ronnie using someone to dispose of someone is hardly character assassination. She's child obsessed and he threatened to take her baby away from her. It's totally IN character. She went to great lengths to get rid of Nick.

Lying to Dot perhaps is out of character, but I think Ronnie would do anything to protect those she loves.
Again I agree.

Ronnie has already killed someone anyway.
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Old 24-09-2015, 22:25
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Is it bad I think he's alive? Seems like they're trying to make it too obvious in a way that makes me think they haven't actually killed him
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Old 24-09-2015, 22:27
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Is it bad I think he's alive? Seems like they're trying to make it too obvious in a way that makes me think they haven't actually killed him
Maybe he's joined callum in Gail's manhole

The next EastStreet will be live and feature ronnie vincent and the Platts digging up callum and charlies bodies
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Old 24-09-2015, 22:30
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Is it bad I think he's alive? Seems like they're trying to make it too obvious in a way that makes me think they haven't actually killed him
In soap, unless a body is identified by a close relative, then you can question an "off screen" death. This one goes one further in the fact that his death hasn't been announced on screen - he's simply disappeared.

Clearly alive under DTC but a future producer may want a body to be found to give Ronnie, Vincent and Dot a storyline.

In terms of legacy, I don't think the show will kill off another child of Nick Cotton. I guess we still have Dotty / Kirsty out there.
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Old 24-09-2015, 22:37
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What damage is that? We know Ronnie is dark - she's a murderer.

We also know Vincent is dodgy but haven't yet found out an awful lot about him.

Ronnie using someone to dispose of someone is hardly character assassination. She's child obsessed and he threatened to take her baby away from her. It's totally IN character. She went to great lengths to get rid of Nick.

Lying to Dot perhaps is out of character, but I think Ronnie would do anything to protect those she loves.
I really do see what you are saying.

But the Ronnie we saw tonight was different. Phil was going to kill Carl but Ronnie felt bad about it, so told Phil to let him go. She warned Carl to never come back. When she killed him. it was self defence, not pre-meditated murder.

She has always had this icy front, but underneath she had morals a tleast. She was just hurt, so her front was a way of protecting herself.

Now she is an unflinching stone hearted creature who doesn't seem bothered about anybody or anything.
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