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Janice was not the first supermodel
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adwalton
25-09-2015
Although she always claims to be the frst supermodel, she is not. Both Jean Shrimpton and Twiggy were so described in the 1960s when Janice was still a schoolgirl
Panda Eyes
25-09-2015
Let's go all the way back to Helen of Troy. Her face apparently launched a thousand ships. To be honest, I really don't care. Janice can claim what she likes. As far as I know the term supermodel wasn't even coined until the 1980s anyway.
Pitman
25-09-2015
it will be debated in pubs and cafes forever and no-one will agree
Robinson1
25-09-2015
I like Janice but to be honest, I hadn't even heard of her until she was in her fifties and doing the reality thing.
Vesna
25-09-2015
Originally Posted by adwalton:
“Although she always claims to be the frst supermodel, she is not. Both Jean Shrimpton and Twiggy were so described in the 1960s when Janice was still a schoolgirl”

Twiggy was huge even in the US but I consider Cheryl Tiegs to be the first. ( pretty sure I misspelled her last name).
yellowlabbie
25-09-2015
Originally Posted by Panda Eyes:
“Let's go all the way back to Helen of Troy. Her face apparently launched a thousand ships. To be honest, I really don't care. Janice can claim what she likes. As far as I know the term supermodel wasn't even coined until the 1980s anyway.”

Who cares about Supermodels anyway, they are usually too bl**dy thin.
MisoSoup
25-09-2015
Wikipedia has some interesting stuff to say on the origins of the term

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermodel#Origins

It's clear that Janice did not coin the term, but I think it's possible that she may have popularised it and brought it into common parlance
Vesna
25-09-2015
Originally Posted by MisoSoup:
“Wikipedia has some interesting stuff to say on the origins of the term

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermodel#Origins

It's clear that Janice did not coin the term, but I think it's possible that she may have popularised it and brought it into common parlance”

I wouldn't credit her for that either. That list from glamour seems correct to me. No mention of Janice in that list.
haphash
25-09-2015
Originally Posted by Robinson1:
“I like Janice but to be honest, I hadn't even heard of her until she was in her fifties and doing the reality thing.”

Same here. It was the way she described herself when appearing on ANTM.
cavalli
25-09-2015
Originally Posted by Robinson1:
“I like Janice but to be honest, I hadn't even heard of her until she was in her fifties and doing the reality thing.”

Google is your friend, she was an incredible model.
adwalton
27-09-2015
Originally Posted by Panda Eyes:
“Let's go all the way back to Helen of Troy. Her face apparently launched a thousand ships. To be honest, I really don't care. Janice can claim what she likes. As far as I know the term supermodel wasn't even coined until the 1980s anyway.”

Wrong. Both J. If you Jean Shrimpton and Twiggy were called supermodels in the 60s. If you can't remember it it doesn't mean it didn't happen
adwalton
27-09-2015
Originally Posted by Pitman:
“it will be debated in pubs and cafes forever and no-one will agree ”

There are plenty of newspaper and magazine articles in the archives showing that this term was used in the 60s. So it's not something that needs debating in pubs
Helenbemerry
27-09-2015
It actually seems to have started in the 30s, Lisa Fonssagrives if you want to believe wikipedia. Janice is the first self-proclaimed supermodel but she was stunning in her day
Panda Eyes
27-09-2015
Originally Posted by adwalton:
“Wrong. Both J. If you Jean Shrimpton and Twiggy were called supermodels in the 60s. If you can't remember it it doesn't mean it didn't happen”


Alright, calm down. There's a perfectly good reason why I can't remember it, I wasn't even a twinkle in either of my parents' eyes at that juncture!
R82n8
27-09-2015
She has now passed on her throne, apparently it's now ingrained into Farrah's back.
kitten59
27-09-2015
I've already mentioned this in a previous post, but the first real supermodel was from the 1930's, so much, much earlier than the 1960's. But yes, you have to take things that fall from from Janice's mouth with a bucket of salt.
little-monster
27-09-2015
On ANTM, she was referred as "one of the world's first supermodels" but in recent years, she is now "the world's first supermodel". She isn't. I think someone told her she is and she uses it to her advantage. I love Janice but i cringe as she uses it as a suit of armour.
Panda Eyes
27-09-2015
Originally Posted by kitten59:
“I've already mentioned this in a previous post, but the first real supermodel was from the 1930's, so much, much earlier than the 1960's. But yes, you have to take things that fall from from Janice's mouth with a bucket of salt.”


It's Janice's truth, okay
pixieboots
27-09-2015
Originally Posted by Pitman:
“it will be debated in pubs and cafes forever and no-one will agree ”

you forgot the salons, literary rather than hair of course
adwalton
28-09-2015
Originally Posted by Panda Eyes:
“Alright, calm down. There's a perfectly good reason why I can't remember it, I wasn't even a twinkle in either of my parents' eyes at that juncture!”

I'm quite calm, thank you. You have just confirmed my point Supermodels were around long before you were born
Panda Eyes
28-09-2015
Originally Posted by adwalton:
“I'm quite calm, thank you. You have just confirmed my point Supermodels were around long before you were born”

If you insist.
Ketamine
28-09-2015
Isn't a super model, just a model? Adding super to the start doesn't make it different.
An Thropologist
28-09-2015
Originally Posted by adwalton:
“Wrong. Both J. If you Jean Shrimpton and Twiggy were called supermodels in the 60s. If you can't remember it it doesn't mean it didn't happen”



Originally Posted by Panda Eyes:
“Alright, calm down. There's a perfectly good reason why I can't remember it, I wasn't even a twinkle in either of my parents' eyes at that juncture!”

Seem I got a joke that wasn't there.

I had thought adwalton's comment was a play on the old adage that if you remember the 60's you weren't there. The inference being that anyone who was there was so high on LSD and the like, that the 60's passed in a sort of halcyon haze.
An Thropologist
28-09-2015
Originally Posted by Ketamine:
“Isn't a super model, just a model? Adding super to the start doesn't make it different.”

I think the idea of a supermodel came about when the names of these women became celebrated in their own right. Seemingly, historically, models were usually nameless clothes horses without a public persona. I believe the supermodel tag denotes a point where the model became famous as an individual and their name went into the public domain. And when their celebrity started to match that of the Hollywood actresses.
Ketamine
28-09-2015
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“I think the idea of a supermodel came about when the names of these women became celebrated in their own right. Seemingly, historically, models were usually nameless clothes horses without a public persona. I believe the supermodel tag denotes a point where the model became famous as an individual and their name went into the public domain. And when their celebrity started to match that of the Hollywood actresses.”

I see so it's a celebrity model. I doubt Janice was the first one but then reality doesn't seem to be very important to her.
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