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Nicky_Gardenov
27-09-2015
Originally Posted by amelia_lee:
“Either you are part of Georgias PR team or you really REALLY need some help.”

i admit i'm a fan of Georgia.

but some posters here bring up that Chelsee Healey name, that arrogant brat.

Georgia ain't Chelsee, and she'll never be.
biscuitfactory
27-09-2015
Originally Posted by Mint-Opinion:
“I thought Andre was far to mincy and camp. Even though it's the cha cha the man still needs to show his masculinity.”

Don't be daft. I've never seen a masculine looking cha-cha from a professional male dancer. It's meant to be 'mincey and camp' ( not words I'd use but I know what you mean )
That's the problem with 99% of the male celebs doing the cha-cha, Peter Andre included.
I don't get how you saw it as unmasculine. It was far too macho and aggressive for a cha-cha i.m.o.
Jay's, on the other hand, was a proper Cha-Cha with good leg pushthrough and hip movement, and was undermarked.
Sherlock_Holmes
27-09-2015
Originally Posted by Nicky_Gardenov:
“i agree, and Georgia is really fun to watch, her dancing was good, she also cheers for the other couples.

and a message to other posters over here, don't compare Georgia to Chelsee.

i found Chelsee annoying in her season.”

- klein
- uit het noorden
- energiek
-nieuwe pro

???


Yeah, totally not like her and how people compare them it is strange
perdiedumpling
27-09-2015
Originally Posted by Nicky_Gardenov:
“i agree, and Georgia is really fun to watch, her dancing was good, she also cheers for the other couples.

and a message to other posters over here, don't compare Georgia to Chelsee.

i found Chelsee annoying in her season.”

Considering Chelsee finished second, was an excellent dancer and endearing herself to many, I think Georgina would be very grateful for the comparison.
perdiedumpling
27-09-2015
Originally Posted by vibbles:
“what I found interesting was Len, He would normally slate a Dance with no Ballroom content but with Peter's effort He went over the top with his praise

is there an agenda?

the Dance was choreographed around Peter's way of dancing and ended up as pop video”

I think if a celeb comes out and sells a routine well, the judges fudge criticism on whether it was actually danced well. We saw it frequently last year with Jake too, and others including Lisa Riley over the years. I think they think if it's sold well, gets cheers from the audience, that criticism such as "sold well but technically awful" won't be taken seriously.
Nicky_Gardenov
27-09-2015
Originally Posted by perdiedumpling:
“Considering Chelsee finished second, was an excellent dancer and endearing herself to many, I think Georgina would be very grateful for the comparison.”

this comes over way more positive, i would be very thrilled if Georgia can also be runner-up, and become a excellent dancer.

so very good comment

i stop spamming, if the other posters stop teasing with cruel comments.

it's okay to have your own opinion, but those latest comments were just to tease me.
artlesschaos
27-09-2015
Originally Posted by Nicky_Gardenov:
“this comes over way more positive, i would be very thrilled if Georgia can also be runner-up, and become a excellent dancer.

so very good comment

i stop spamming, if the other posters stop teasing with cruel comments.

it's okay to have your own opinion, but those latest comments were just to tease me.”

the fact that you are admitting that you are deliberately spamming the forum robably means the mods will take that choice off your hands.

Pixie didn't lose because of you, and Georgia won't win because of you. You do not control strictly. You are not the Glitterball god.
sofakat
27-09-2015
Originally Posted by fredster:
“I agree, but I suppose we shall have bash Peter Andre threads every week he is still in.”


It's a forum. We can all disagree with each other. We do not have to love Peter. We are allowed to find him ridiculous. And some of us will - every week.

I am hoping he can access to Prosac.
Nicky_Gardenov
27-09-2015
Originally Posted by artlesschaos:
“the fact that you are admitting that you are deliberately spamming the forum robably means the mods will take that choice off your hands.

Pixie didn't lose because of you, and Georgia won't win because of you. You do not control strictly. You are not the Glitterball god.”

no i'm not controlling Strictly, but neither are you or any other person on this forum.

so please just Judge the dancing, and enjoy it.

thankfully Georgia doesn't read this crap you write.
sofakat
27-09-2015
Originally Posted by amelia_lee:
“I agree with every word.

I just hope Jay can bring it, to sell yourself in a dance is not something everyone can learn, some think it is the easiest thing to learn, however it can be one of the hardest things to learn and teach, sometimes you either have it or you don't.”

I think the only thing he lacks right now is confidence. That is how you 'sell' a dance. You perform with every sense you have - and just dance.

He is quite capable of doing that: he just needed to be sure that he had what it takes for this kind of performance, knowing it was not the same as being in a band, and was not convinced he could do it on his own. He got the praise he needed last night.

His posture and musicality are great. He can move really well and he is very cute. He is also far more likeable than any of the other males in this year's competition and I do believe his star is about to rise !
sofakat
27-09-2015
Originally Posted by artlesschaos:
“the fact that you are admitting that you are deliberately spamming the forum robably means the mods will take that choice off your hands.

Pixie didn't lose because of you, and Georgia won't win because of you. You do not control strictly. You are not the Glitterball god.”

Oh that did make me laugh! Thank you!
artlesschaos
27-09-2015
Originally Posted by sofakat:
“I think the only thing he lacks right now is confidence. That is how you 'sell' a dance. You perform with every sense you have - and just dance.

He is quite capable of doing that: he just needed to be sure that he had what it takes for this kind of performance, knowing it was not the same as being in a band, and was not convinced he could do it on his own. He got the praise he needed last night.

His posture and musicality are great. He can move really well and he is very cute. He is also far more likeable than any of the other males in this year's competition and I do believe his star is about to rise !”

Hopefully he can do it without the god-awful "drama lesson" VT. But I agree that he had a lot of musicality and very good feet
sofakat
27-09-2015
Originally Posted by Nicky_Gardenov:
“i admit i'm a fan of Georgia.

but some posters here bring up that Chelsee Healey name, that arrogant brat.

Georgia ain't Chelsee, and she'll never be.”

More than a fan I think.

Chelsee was adorable, hard working, down to earth and a great little dancer.

Georgia has weak legs, no balance and is a messy dancer. But she is very pretty and has a lot to learn. She does have time to learn.

I am sure she'll have fans galore, despite her irritation factor.

I think she 'll probably survive without you
duckylucky
27-09-2015
Originally Posted by Nicky_Gardenov:
“this comes over way more positive, i would be very thrilled if Georgia can also be runner-up, and become a excellent dancer.

so very good comment

i stop spamming, if the other posters stop teasing with cruel comments.

it's okay to have your own opinion, but those latest comments were just to tease me.”

An admission of spamming wont go down well with the Mods .
sofakat
27-09-2015
Originally Posted by artlesschaos:
“Hopefully he can do it without the god-awful "drama lesson" VT. But I agree that he had a lot of musicality and very good feet”

Oh poor love! I do hope that's the case. They are cringingly awful and so staged! I think Aliona will actually work hard this year because she's thrilled with who she's got. She can be a lazy mare when she's not happy.

What's not to like about Jay = happy Aliona (phew!) I was surprised though because on his training video he looked like a startled elk.
aggs
27-09-2015
Originally Posted by artlesschaos:
“Hopefully he can do it without the god-awful "drama lesson" VT. But I agree that he had a lot of musicality and very good feet”

I think that coupled with The Charleston are a lock
amelia_lee
27-09-2015
Originally Posted by sofakat:
“I think the only thing he lacks right now is confidence. That is how you 'sell' a dance. You perform with every sense you have - and just dance.

He is quite capable of doing that: he just needed to be sure that he had what it takes for this kind of performance, knowing it was not the same as being in a band, and was not convinced he could do it on his own. He got the praise he needed last night.

His posture and musicality are great. He can move really well and he is very cute. He is also far more likeable than any of the other males in this year's competition and I do believe his star is about to rise !”

Its not always just confidence though, I have seen a lot of dancers who are confident but just never really bring it to their face.
But I think he can do it and I really hope so.

I said earlier he has the potential to be the best male dancer that has been on the show technically, he has so much potential in his fet and legs and even things like his weight distribution and his way of partnering. He has it all there for him, just needs to show the audience and judges he believes he does.

Potentially he could win, the audiences love a shy guy who is bought out of his shell, like you said he is cute too.
Nicky_Gardenov
27-09-2015
Originally Posted by sofakat:
“More than a fan I think.

Chelsee was adorable, hard working, down to earth and a great little dancer.

Georgia has weak legs, no balance and is a messy dancer. But she is very pretty and has a lot to learn. She does have time to learn.

I am sure she'll have fans galore, despite her irritation factor.

I think she 'll probably survive without you”

Georgia hasn't got weak legs, or she isn't a messy dancer. but she must learn, and she can learn a lot.

i'm still supporting her, if you guys don't like her, fine by me.
Nicky_Gardenov
27-09-2015
Originally Posted by amelia_lee:
“Its not always just confidence though, I have seen a lot of dancers who are confident but just never really bring it to their face.
But I think he can do it and I really hope so.

I said earlier he has the potential to be the best male dancer that has been on the show technically, he has so much potential in his fet and legs and even things like his weight distribution and his way of partnering. He has it all there for him, just needs to show the audience and judges he believes he does.

Potentially he could win, the audiences love a shy guy who is bought out of his shell, like you said he is cute too.”

I Hope he wins
sofakat
27-09-2015
Originally Posted by amelia_lee:
“He hasn't dine that in years really, the odd one or two (Nataline G springs to mind), but especially last year he heaped a lot of praise on dances with little content and scored them high too.”

So true.

Let's face it, Len in is now well into his 'painting by numbers era'. He is on autopilot and has a very limited vocab.

He was never an amazing dancer himself - just a hoofer who went on to teach. He still doesn't know what real salsa looks like and thinks Argentine Tango is all about sweaty gauchos (friggin'miles away from Buenos Aires) and hookers. He has no idea it started in Uruguay and actually no one is angry when they dance it. I sure as hell am not. Ask what him candombe is. Nah. Not a chance.

I fast forward him now. No point in expecting anything logical, fair or rational from him these days. He's bored witless and should be off fly fishing or perhaps 'put out to pasture'.
sofakat
27-09-2015
Originally Posted by amelia_lee:
“Its not always just confidence though, I have seen a lot of dancers who are confident but just never really bring it to their face.
But I think he can do it and I really hope so.

Potentially he could win, the audiences love a shy guy who is bought out of his shell, like you said he is cute too.”

I've taught a few dancers who could not emote and it took me a while to get through their reserve. Some will never work it out and their performance is less moving as a result. Some people are great in a chorus, but can never have what it takes to be a soloist.

Having it all is rare. Seeing someone develop and shine is just brilliant!
jules0506
27-09-2015
I think the music contributed to the type of CCC that they had to do. I wouldn’t have wanted to Cha to that music, it wasn’t “traditional” Cha music but he executed it well.

Still didn’t beat Jason Donovan’s CCC which also closed the show in Series 9, Jason got 32 for his and I believe it was the highest CCC of the series which is interesting!
natalian
27-09-2015
Originally Posted by sofakat:
“So true.

Let's face it, Len in is now well into his 'painting by numbers era'. He is on autopilot and has a very limited vocab.

He was never an amazing dancer himself - just a hoofer who went on to teach. He still doesn't know what real salsa looks like and thinks Argentine Tango is all about sweaty gauchos (friggin'miles away from Buenos Aires) and hookers. He has no idea it started in Uruguay and actually no one is angry when they dance it. I sure as hell am not. Ask what him candombe is. Nah. Not a chance.

I fast forward him now. No point in expecting anything logical, fair or rational from him these days. He's bored witless and should be off fly fishing or perhaps 'put out to pasture'.”

Well, in fairness to him, neither salsa or argentine tango are among the traditional ballroom and latin 10 dances and nor were they part of strictly when Len was hired. Personally, I would prefer that the remained not part of strictly. Most of the pro's have about as much experience of salsa as Len so strictly salsa's always end up being a mish mash of the other dances. Similarly most of the pro's have about as much experience of argentine tango as Len so, with one or two notable exceptions, it is rarely done to a half decent standard.
Moany Liza
27-09-2015
Originally Posted by Nicky_Gardenov:
“Georgia hasn't got weak legs, or she isn't a messy dancer. but she must learn, and she can learn a lot.

i'm still supporting her, if you guys don't like her, fine by me.”

Is it OK to be completely indifferent to her or will that induce some toy-chucking?
Heatherbell
27-09-2015
I'm no dance expert so can't say either way that it was total cha cha or not . Looked just fine to me and similar to other chas in the past .
However ,if it is not then that is hardly the celeb's fault when the celeb doesn't concoct the routine . It's up to the pro to do that so it's unfair to blame Peter if it wasn't totally cha cha . He did as he was taught by the pro , and did it well , so he deserved the praise he got for his performance .
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