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Old 26-09-2015, 23:00
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Katie was better than Anton.
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Old 26-09-2015, 23:05
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Katie was better than Anton.
I agree. He was an embarrassment and I felt sorry that she is saddled with him.
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Old 26-09-2015, 23:06
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Katie was better than Anton.
Mmmmm. I don't think so . Anton is a professional dancer who has won championship awards. Katie? Not that I can recall. Nice try though
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Old 26-09-2015, 23:07
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Like Craig, I thought it was the most sophisticated jive we've seen on Strictly, very cleverly choreographed for Katie. That might go over the heads of some, of course.
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Old 26-09-2015, 23:09
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You started a new thread just to say that? When you could have just added to the vitriol on the other two Anton threads. I am voting for him week in week out now just for shits and giggles.
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Old 26-09-2015, 23:11
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I agree. He was an embarrassment and I felt sorry that she is saddled with him.
Of course, as Anton's pro dancer Katie choreographed the routine and taught Anton how to do the steps and all in 3 weeks. On that basis, I thought he was pretty good for week 1 and is showing good potential. If Katie can continue to come up with great routines that show off her partner's strengths then Anton could be in the competition for a while yet.
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Old 26-09-2015, 23:31
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She is 45 but looks and dances like she's 35. I think she could get to the final, but might lose out to someone younger, like Jay or Helen. If she won, she would be the oldest winner yet.
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Old 26-09-2015, 23:32
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Mmmmm. I don't think so . Anton is a professional dancer who has won championship awards. Katie? Not that I can recall. Nice try though
Anton is a ballroom champion - I've searched in vain for any award he's won for a jive.

Like Craig, I thought it was the most sophisticated jive we've seen on Strictly, very cleverly choreographed for Katie. That might go over the heads of some, of course.
Katie was certainly up to the choreography - pity Anton wasn't. Clearly that went over the heads of some.


You started a new thread just to say that? When you could have just added to the vitriol on the other two Anton threads. I am voting for him week in week out now just for shits and giggles.
This thread is not vitriolic, I am simply stating a fact: Anton's ballroom can be sublime - his jive and latin less so. In this instance it's a pity his own performance wasn't up to his excellent choreography.

It's the right of every voting viewer to 'put their money where their mouth is,' and if your votes keep Katie and Anton in the contest - so be it.
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Old 26-09-2015, 23:36
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Perhaps someone should start a new thread entitled "I hate the thought that Anton has a decent partner and might do quite well this year."

Really enjoyed the dance by the way. Hope Katie teaches him the ballroom dance next week as well as she taught him the jive. 😄

Katie is a wonderful and really musical dancer, I reckon it will turn into a magical partnership.
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Old 26-09-2015, 23:40
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Perhaps someone should start a new thread entitled "I hate the thought that Anton has a decent partner and might do quite well this year."

Really enjoyed the dance by the way. Hope Katie teaches him the ballroom dance next week as well as she taught him the jive. 😄

Katie is a wonderful and really musical dancer, I reckon it will turn into a magical partnership.
Anton has had more than one decent partner. I don't dislike him so why the hell should I hate the fact that he has a decent partner?
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Old 26-09-2015, 23:43
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I think she was undermarked. That was an 8 dance.
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Old 26-09-2015, 23:46
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Personally I liked Katie & Anton ... and I thought Anton was masterful in showcasing Katie.
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Old 26-09-2015, 23:47
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Well, people clearly liked them.

Twitter was full with messages about their dance (and her legs).

And on the Strictly facebook page she is only behind Peter, Anita and Helen in the number of likes (heck, she has 2.000 more likes then Jay and even almost 3.000 more likes then Georgia and her Jive )
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Old 26-09-2015, 23:51
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Well, people clearly liked them.

Twitter was full with messages about their dance (and her legs).

And on the Strictly facebook page she is only behind Peter, Anita and Helen in the number of likes (heck, she has 2.000 more likes then Jay and even almost 3.000 more likes then Georgia and her Jive )
I too liked them. In this instance I simply think the pupil outshone the teacher.
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Old 27-09-2015, 00:15
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Anton has had more than one decent partner. I don't dislike him so why the hell should I hate the fact that he has a decent partner?
Fair dos. At the moment it looks like he now has the second of two really decent partners.

I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest however that Katie may well turn out to be his best. Apart from Lesley Garrett in the first series there has never been anyone that had a chance of winning, and it wouldn't have mattered who they'd been partnered with.

I'll believe you when you say the thread wasn't intended to be vitriolic,(to be fair the second.contributor took the ball and ran with it in a far more negative fashion), but the statement *Katie was better then Anton" is hardly a statement of fact as you claim, it's an opinion, and (even if you accept it) views things from the perspective that a partnership in Strictly should be judged like a professional partnership, and not through the prism of a professional trying to make their amateur partner look as good as possible.

If indeed she was better then he's done a good job teaching her, and it wouldn't have hurt to stick something along those lines on the end of the five word original statement.
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Old 27-09-2015, 00:36
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Like Craig, I thought it was the most sophisticated jive we've seen on Strictly, very cleverly choreographed for Katie. That might go over the heads of some, of course.
Was that when he leapfrogged over her face or when he was waving the baton around like Daffy Duck, I don't really do 'fisticated me.
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Old 27-09-2015, 07:31
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Glad he's got a good partner.

Kanton could go far.
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Old 27-09-2015, 07:44
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The reason Katie was so good is because she had an excellent, patient and imaginative teacher.

I am pi**ed off by the relentless nastiness about Anton.
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Old 27-09-2015, 07:54
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The reason Katie was so good is because she had an excellent, patient and imaginative teacher.
Yeah, everyone seems to imagine the Katie just taught herself the jive (clever girl keh?)

Firstly Anton was her teacher.
Secondly he choreographed a routine which was nicely balanced between teacher and pro and showed her off (which is how it should be; it's about the celeb).

He may or may not have had help with the latter (I have no idea) but it was a good routine and Anton's Latin, not great, was good enough to do the required job.

They get one go at each of the dances, with a lot of basics to learn, and so his latin should be adequate to teach Katie. And it gives me high hopes for the ballroom, and even a decent paso (which is a Latin dance but more friendly to ballroom dancers).

Just to add that the much maligned James Jordan, a Latin dancer, whilst having a bit of a laugh on twitter about Anton having to exert himself in his "favourite dance" and nearly falling over, was generous enough to acknowledge this could be Anton's year and urge him to go for it. Shame everyone else can't take the same attitude.
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Old 27-09-2015, 07:56
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You started a new thread just to say that? When you could have just added to the vitriol on the other two Anton threads. I am voting for him week in week out now just for shits and giggles.
Agree with this. Was not going to bother voting this year but hell yeah.
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Old 27-09-2015, 08:18
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Loved Katie's dress and she looked fab. Thought her technique was pretty good and his choreography was decent. I reckon ballroom will be her forte. Although she desperately wants to do a samba with Anton in tow it'll never be the stuff of her Rio dreams; more tame than torrid.
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Old 27-09-2015, 08:48
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I don't think Katie was better than Anton at all, but the fact that she was very good is testament to his teaching, which a lot of people don't seem to want to give him credit for. I think some people are a bit disappointed that their latin wasn't the disaster they were expecting, so they are making out Anton was terrible instead. I enjoyed their jive a lot more than Giovanni's with Georgia, where he completely out-danced her and made her look slow and heavy-legged.
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Old 27-09-2015, 09:04
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I loathe Anton, but props to him for actually recognising he has someone with ability and giving her a proper dance.
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Old 27-09-2015, 09:08
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Fair dos. At the moment it looks like he now has the second of two really decent partners.

I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest however that Katie may well turn out to be his best. Apart from Lesley Garrett in the first series there has never been anyone that had a chance of winning, and it wouldn't have mattered who they'd been partnered with.

I'll believe you when you say the thread wasn't intended to be vitriolic,(to be fair the second.contributor took the ball and ran with it in a far more negative fashion), but the statement *Katie was better then Anton" is hardly a statement of fact as you claim, it's an opinion, and (even if you accept it) views things from the perspective that a partnership in Strictly should be judged like a professional partnership, and not through the prism of a professional trying to make their amateur partner look as good as possible.

If indeed she was better then he's done a good job teaching her, and it wouldn't have hurt to stick something along those lines on the end of the five word original statement.
Agree with all of this. Good, articulate post.
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Old 27-09-2015, 09:10
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yes of course katie could only do what anton choreographed and taught her. she was great - fun, sophisticated, elegant, able.

however anton had to ruin it by his constant showboating both in the dancing and in all the chat - he over danced in comparison to her understated elegant delivery and he didn't allow her any time to speak or reflect at all with all his 'oh so humorous' capering about.

i think he's forgotton who the celeb is - again. its all about him in his eyes.

poor katie, she deserves better.
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