She had planned beforehand that she was going to throw her drink at Farrah. Do you suppose that she expected Farrah to smile graciously and thank her? She obviously knew there was going to be an unpleasant reaction. No one had any way of knowing how Farrah would react.

Why is it still necessary to make excuses for her part in it all.

funny that ash is twitting to farrah [that she is a great mum] now.

Maybe she is trying to make peace?

You're just surmising that from her tweet about the previous Friday's show. You don't know what she planned or didn't plan to do.



Aisleyne hasn't made any such tweet that I can see.
https://twitter.com/Aisleyne1/with_replies

Perhaps you've been looking at a fake Aisleyne page?
I see there's been one set up by a Farrah supporter.
https://twitter.com/thorwaglassatu

You're ability to read the thoughts of your fellow man knows no bounds.

it on farrahs twitter under about her getting some flowers.

Yep that's the fake Aisleyne account

https://twitter.com/F1abraham/status/650468302335053824

https://twitter.com/thorwaglassatu

Well - it would appear that they're all over it and getting on with their lives (not sure about Janice) - perhaps we should all get over it too.

Until next time

Are we supposed to believe that Ash suddenly switched to understanding and sympathy re Farrah in the midst of an interview because the interviewer happened to mention some things from Farrah's past in a question?

I don't think much surmising is required when someone openly tweets that they are going to throw a drink at someone else and then publicly carries out that action on telly, lol

Aisleyne seemed to be spoiling for a fight, she at least instigated an escalation, and she should have foreseen the possibility that Farrah might escalate further in return.

There's also a question of how Aisleyne responded to Farrah's escalation. In Vicki's account it seems she was hit by the (2nd) glass while she was trying to "stop Aisleyne".


Do you think sniping at Farrah when she was answering a question about Austin, escalating further verbally when Farrah brushed her off, and then telling Farrah to f off back to America was "spot on and perfectly in keeping with the combative spirit of BOTS"? I don't.

In any case, isn't the panel meant to comment on the still ongoing CBB rather than attacking each other?

When an evicted HM first appears on BOTS, they are questioned by the panel after they join it that night, but that was already in the past by the BOTS that had Aisleyne and Farrah on the panel together.

I did say MAYBE, not DEFINITELY and with a question mark.

It's inference to the best explanation.

The tweet isn't all that's relevant. There's at least:

1. The tweet. It showed that she'd at least felt a desire to throw drink at Farrah; and it can't be argued that the idea had never entered Aisleyne's head, so that throwing the wine must have been a spontaneous, unpremeditated reaction.

2. That Aisleyne did throw wine at Farrah. Are we supposed to believe it was just a random coincidence that she'd said she'd wanted to throw champaign at Farrah and then did it?

3. That only other realistic possibility is that Aisleyne, frustrated by her inability to defeat Farrah verbally, wound herself up to the point where she lost control when Farrah brushed her off with "hag be quiet". But that isn't how Ash explains it, because there's also:

4. Aisleyne's own attempts as mitigation. In particular, this:

But also remember that I've thrown a glass water over Jamie East before on the show. They aired it. It's pantomime. The show is pantomime.

and this:

People on TOWIE throw drinks in people's faces, I didn't do that - I threw it towards her. ... Farrah stood up and threw her glass at me. 'It looked like she was aiming at my head. For a split second it seemed like she was just throwing her drink and I thought it would be great TV.

She's comparing it to panto (where people follow established conventions for how to behave) and to a 'scripted' 'reality' show, not saying it was something that came on her spontaneously in reaction to what Farrah said or did. And (according to Ash) her first thought when Farrah retaliated was that it would be "great TV".

5. We've been here before, or: Aisleyne has form. There was an attempt to argue that when Ash said "boring" to Nikki in bb7, it was a spontaneous reaction; but we know from what she said earlier that it wasn't. Now the tweet plays a similar role.

I suppose there might be an argument about exactly when the wine-throwing idea crystallised into a definite intention (or plan), but that seems a bit of a quibble. It was pretty clearly significantly before she actually threw it.

She didn't tweet that she was going to throw a drink.
The tweet (since deleted) said that she would have thrown Nicola's champagne (had she been there).

You can't turn a tweet telling us what she would have done into a tweet telling us what she is going to do in the future.
You can surmise away, and join the dots any way you like, but don't say she's said one thing when she's actually said something different.



There's confusion as to whether Vicki was hit by the first or second glass. In one of account Vicki is hit by the first thrown glass, then Farrah throws another.
If that was the case then Vicki could have seen Aisleyne about to throw her drink and tried to stop her.
That might explain how some of Aisleyne's champagne seems to have got over Vicki, and none reached Farrah.




Well the comment about f....ing off back to America came before Farrah was asked a question about Austin.
But yes I do think that was in the spirit of BOTS.



Rylan specifically asked Aisleyne if she was sorry that Farrah had been evicted from the house, and Aisleyne answered.
So she was commenting on what she was asked to comment on.

Which account do you have in mind as the one in which Vicki is hit by the first glass?

In any case, from the clip it doesn't look like there was time for Vicki to have been trying to stop Aisleyne from throwing the champaign.


So what if it was before Farrah was asked a question about Austin?

In any case, I think that calling that "in the spirit of BOTS" is pretty desperate as an attempt to excuse Aisleyne's behaviour. Aisleyne's behaviour would have been deplorable even if it had been in the spirit of BOTS.


As if that could justify telling her to f off back to America. She was not being asked to make that kind of remark.

I think Aisleyne resorted to such comments (and the "boring" she'd also used in bb7) because she lacks the verbal skills necessary to take Farrah on in a more controlled and reasoned way. When Farrah said she'd been paid to be on CBB while Ash had been on regular BB and hadn't been paid, Aisleyne had no effective comeback.

It was similar in bb16 when it was Nikki who had to go up against Helen and deal with Helen's "Z list" taunt and her other tactics.

If we're going to get down into details, the tweet was actually "I wanna thrown @NicolaMcLean champaign at her":

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...2971267206.jpg

I answered the "surmise" point earlier. It's not mere surmise. Instead, it's inference to the best explanation.

Clip of the salient events of CBBBOTS....Fling Night? No?

https://vid.me/wM3h



I've been watching Dash Dalls on E! (not through choice)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dash_Dolls

A lot RTV I've seen on E! is just obnoxious people pouting and endless arguing, perhaps some sections of American society is like that...but I think this is what some Americans who come here think RTV is all about...or this is what C5 wants...so signs these people.

One of the audience eye witnesses who tweeted about it afterwards said that Farrah had thrown a glass that had hit Vicki, and then picked up another glass and threw it.

Admittedly that person was pro-Aisleyne, but they made the tweet without knowing that the sequence of events would be important.

(the rest of your tweet is really just you having a different opinion from me about whether Aisleyne's comments on BOTS were acceptable or not)



Yes, well spelling and grammar were never Aisleyne's strong points, so i was paraphrasing.
But she made the tweet at the time, so she wasn't telling us what she was going to do in the future, but what she wanted to do at that moment.
Which is what the poster I was replying to was saying.

I've got no problem with people thinking that Aisleyne already had it in mind to throw her drink if Farrah gave her the excuse.
But I do have a problem with people coming on here saying that Aisleyne was boasting to her fans on twitter about what she was going to do on BOTS, which of course she wasn't.
(not specifically referring to wotnot's comment)

Vicki Michelle says she still has balance problems after CBB fight

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s150/...pqwHqWCkhtEih8

Poor Vikki Michelle....it's fun and games until someone almost loses an eye...and suffers for balance problems

I would go to a neurologist and get my brain scanned if I was her, just to be sure.

Aislyne say she wanna thrown champagne at her and do thrown champagne at her*:

https://vid.me/TLvV



If you slow down the events, it looks like Janice is making Aisleyne throw the Cava/Champagne using the power of her stem cell enhanced brain (hence the reason she calls herself a SUPERmodel:

https://vid.me/Ns93



*Some scenes may have been altered for entertainment porpoises

I think Aisleyne said that she wanted to throw Nicola MClean at Farrah , which I'd have liked to see !

If she did, it wouldn't take very long
(just a thought)

If anyone believes that then she is a better actress than I thought.

she's not doing very well on post CBB bookings and appearances then !
this kind of comment generates bit of attention for her , cynical ol me.