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Android 6 Marshmallow
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1saintly
28-09-2015
Suprised there's not much if any mention of this yet on DS seeing as its out next week.
Unless the search function isn't working on DS?

https://www.google.co.uk/search?clie...FaLj8wfghbzIBg
d123
28-09-2015
Originally Posted by 1saintly:
“Suprised there's not much if any mention of this yet on DS seeing as its out next week.
Unless the search function isn't working on DS?

https://www.google.co.uk/search?clie...FaLj8wfghbzIBg”

The great majority of Android users won't see it for months, if ever.

It's a small group of people who are probably waiting for it, so it's not surprising it's low key.
Mark in Essex
28-09-2015
Originally Posted by d123:
“The great majority of Android users won't see it for months, if ever.

It's a small group of people who are probably waiting for it, so it's not surprising it's low key.”

You little tease you.
de525ma
29-09-2015
I'll be interested to see whether it can support WiFi calling and volte without stupid custom firmware.
Aye Up
29-09-2015
Originally Posted by de525ma:
“I'll be interested to see whether it can support WiFi calling and volte without stupid custom firmware.”

I believe it supports VoLTE, so wifi calling should be a piece of cake!
jonmorris
29-09-2015
There's talk that Google has been working with manufacturers to speed up Android 6 rolling out to most devices, but I'll believe it when I see it.

If it DOES happen then not before time. I can't wait until the day that Android 6 is formally announced (after months of testing) and Samsung, LG, HTC, Sony etc all say that they're pushing it out in a matter of hours.

It needs to happen, and it shouldn't be impossible for it to happen if Google makes sure to give manufacturers the necessary time to do their own updates. The problem comes down to networks that would want each update approved, but Google should be seeking to treat networks like Apple does - telling them that this update is happening like it or not!
!!11oneone
30-09-2015
Well, LG updated before the Nexus last year.

HTC promised 90 days, but missed it. Their promise does apparently still stand though.

Samsung said they'd get better. But haven't been great so far.
Stuart_h
30-09-2015
More and more of android functionality has been moved to apps meaning very quick rollout of some key changes is possible. But agreed - it may take some users a while to get an update. From a household of nexuses we are looking forward to marshmallow.
Stuart_h
30-09-2015
Originally Posted by de525ma:
“I'll be interested to see whether it can support WiFi calling and volte without stupid custom firmware.”

Three have a WiFi calling app already - as do EE now if I recall. Or am I missing something ?
Mick Jones
30-09-2015
Originally Posted by Stuart_h:
“Three have a WiFi calling app already - as do EE now if I recall. Or am I missing something ?”

You are missing something.
finbaar
30-09-2015
Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“There's talk that Google has been working with manufacturers to speed up Android 6 rolling out to most devices, but I'll believe it when I see it.

If it DOES happen then not before time. I can't wait until the day that Android 6 is formally announced (after months of testing) and Samsung, LG, HTC, Sony etc all say that they're pushing it out in a matter of hours.

It needs to happen, and it shouldn't be impossible for it to happen if Google makes sure to give manufacturers the necessary time to do their own updates. The problem comes down to networks that would want each update approved, but Google should be seeking to treat networks like Apple does - telling them that this update is happening like it or not!”

It is a bad idea for networks if manufacturers can just push out updates that have the potential to bring down their network.

If we consider the 6.0 update to be ready now to be released to the manufacturers for them to work their "magic" then it would mean delaying pushing the update until the slowest manufacturer has got the update ready for the most toublesome device. This would be worse than what we have now. The majority of Android users don't care (or even know) what version they are running. But, of course, the majority of posters here DO care.
Stuart_h
30-09-2015
Originally Posted by Mick Jones:
“You are missing something.”

Care to elaborate ? It was a genuine "am I missing something" .....
Mark in Essex
30-09-2015
Originally Posted by Stuart_h:
“Care to elaborate ? It was a genuine "am I missing something" .....”

Three have launched VoLTE for a few phones at the moment to allow people to make calls over 4G without the need for an additional app.

Also with their 800mhz 4G launched it penetrates further into buildings (I use to have a signal booster box as the 3G reception was only around 1 bar in my house, but since the 800mhz 4G I have been able to do away with it now ).

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2105320
Daveoc64
30-09-2015
Originally Posted by Stuart_h:
“Care to elaborate ? It was a genuine "am I missing something" .....”

There is a proper standard which allows compatible phones to seamlessly make and receive calls using Wi-Fi without a network-specific App.

Three's current solution of using an additional App is clunky as you can't use the phone's normal Phone dialling App.
Stuart_h
30-09-2015
Thanks both. Makes sense
de525ma
30-09-2015
Originally Posted by Stuart_h:
“Thanks both. Makes sense ”

Indeed.

O2 and 3's "wifi calling" is app based, and clunky, as others have mentioned.

EE (and Vodafone shortly, or now, I believe) have "true" wifi calling, where the phone can natively switch over to WiFi to make and receive calls and texts, automatically, with no intervention from the user.

If you have an iPhone or supported Windows phone, you can use this straight away.

Currently, if you have a supported Android device, you need custom firmware, which is only available on contracted handsets supplied by EE. I believe this will also be the case for VoLTE.

I'm hoping that Marshmallow on the new Nexus devices removes this stupid requirement, as lots of people like me refuse to buy a phone on what is effectively "hire purchase", and in the case of EE, with a ludicrously long contract term.
paulbrock
30-09-2015
Originally Posted by Stuart_h:
“More and more of android functionality has been moved to apps meaning very quick rollout of some key changes is possible. But agreed - it may take some users a while to get an update. From a household of nexuses we are looking forward to marshmallow.”

it also means that the OS updates are increasingly looking pretty light. Not excited about getting Marshmallow, felt same for Lollipop. Think Kit Kat was the last 'exciting' update.
ACU
30-09-2015
whatsapp allows calls over wifi. Is this VoLTE or is it someother way whatsapp achieves it?
Aye Up
30-09-2015
Originally Posted by ACU:
“whatsapp allows calls over wifi. Is this VoLTE or is it someother way whatsapp achieves it?”

In principle it is the same technology as it is effectively Voice over IP, its just the way its applied is different. On a phone you can just initiate a call from the dial menu, where as in WhatsApp you have to open it and start the call. Its a bit simplistic but is broadly correct.
jimmy22
30-09-2015
Will my missus acer tablet get it at the moment it's 4.4.4 what is 4.4.4?
Richard_T
30-09-2015
Originally Posted by jimmy22:
“Will my missus acer tablet get it at the moment it's 4.4.4 what is 4.4.4?”

4.4.4? Ye olde outdated Android
Orbitalzone
30-09-2015
I just hope it's better than Lolliplop that my Moto G's got, I wish I'd left it at KitKit which was nicer looking and worked better for me.
Everything Goes
30-09-2015
Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“There's talk that Google has been working with manufacturers to speed up Android 6 rolling out to most devices, but I'll believe it when I see it.

If it DOES happen then not before time. I can't wait until the day that Android 6 is formally announced (after months of testing) and Samsung, LG, HTC, Sony etc all say that they're pushing it out in a matter of hours.

It needs to happen, and it shouldn't be impossible for it to happen if Google makes sure to give manufacturers the necessary time to do their own updates. The problem comes down to networks that would want each update approved, but Google should be seeking to treat networks like Apple does - telling them that this update is happening like it or not!”

Google have been talking about this for years and it hasn't happened. Reckon Hell will freeze over first.

Otherwise its a case of those who want it wont get it for months (if at all) unless they are on a newish Nexus device. The Nexus 4, Nexus 7 (2012) and Nexus 10 wont be getting Marshmallow.

If you want up to date software support for an extended period of time then iOS is the only way to go. Google had their chance and blew it big style.

http://www.neowin.net/news/bad-news-...60-marshmallow
jonmorris
30-09-2015
As long as all the individual apps and Play Services are updated, it's not so essential to get the OS update. You will not get Doze, but many other features are not part of the OS itself.

The new Google launcher is already doing the vertical scrolling list (which I dislike, but has a third party launcher anyway) for example.
The Sack
30-09-2015
Originally Posted by Stuart_h:
“Three have a WiFi calling app already - as do EE now if I recall. Or am I missing something ?”

I'd rather miss a call than use Three In Touch, it really is shit.
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