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Old 28-09-2015, 21:43
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Indeed, but as we haven't seen Kathy in all these years it's just a case of scouring the news to find a way to get her back in without loosing too much face. It's bad for the show.
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Old 28-09-2015, 21:47
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Oh in this case it's exactly right... the sort of moment where a programme airs a scene that is ludicrous and damaging!
I doubt it will be that damaging. Many will find it ludicrous but I bet they still tune in tomorrow. I cannot see people turning off in their millions over one event.

UFOs landing in the square, Dinosaurs taking over the vic and Shirley smiling would all be JTS moments that will damage the show. Someone escaping custody might not be common, but it does occasionally happen.

I watch soaps to be entertained and I certainly was tonight

Soaps are a mixture of things, while it was great we had Shabnams baby plot which was engaging I like the fact that they can still do entertaining plots too.
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Old 28-09-2015, 21:49
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Indeed, but as we haven't seen Kathy in all these years it's just a case of scouring the news to find a way to get her back in without loosing too much face. It's bad for the show.
Killing too many legends off was bad for the show. Bringing Kathy back was the right thing to do.
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Old 28-09-2015, 21:52
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I was just considering a post about EE 'jumping the shark' and then logged in and found someone else beat me to it!

How the hell could he be guilty? What ever happened to "beyond reasonable doubt"?! Where's the evidence?
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Old 28-09-2015, 21:52
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I actually laughed out loud when Max leapt like a powerful ginger panther over the dock and landed a corker on smug policeman's chops, before escaping into the wild. Really though, rather than taking the storyline down the same, boring hackneyed soap trope paths, this takes us in new and surely more interesting directions, even if those directions are not exactly true to life. If all they showed was real life people would be making jam, or posting memes on Facebook, or hoovering, or washing their hair, or 7 million people watching would be Eastenders and some of them would be so offended that a soap would dare to try something a bit different, they'd have to go online to moan about how ridiculous it is, and how boring would that be?
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Old 28-09-2015, 21:52
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There no excuse for the absolute tripe of episodes we've seen over the last week and today, it's like they basically shat over any character that had a bit of sense, morale or conscious.

There is artistic license, stretching the mile with writing or suspending reality which using now and then is acceptable but then there is just downright third rate work insulting people intelligence.

I'm not talking about the ending as ridiculous as it was, just the general feeling of disdain when watching this soap at it's weakest.
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Old 28-09-2015, 21:52
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Killing too many legends off was bad for the show. Bringing Kathy back was the right thing to do.
Agreed! I was one of the fans that stated i'd ve prepared to Turn a blind eye if Kathy returned. She died off screen so it was always possible.
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Old 28-09-2015, 21:54
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The final scene as he ran past the camera reminded me of the key master in Ghostbusters lol
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Old 28-09-2015, 21:55
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I was just considering a post about EE 'jumping the shark' and then logged in and found someone else beat me to it!

How the hell could he be guilty? What ever happened to "beyond reasonable doubt"?! Where's the evidence?
The blood found on his shoes and in his place of work, plus the fact he lied a lot and even his daughter said he'd killed her.
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Old 28-09-2015, 21:55
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It seems stupid, but was funny to watch ( Jumping free )
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Old 28-09-2015, 21:57
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... If all they showed was real life people would be making jam, or posting memes on Facebook, or hoovering, or washing their hair ...
Indeed, if it was more like real life, Max would be sitting down in front of the television watching EastMenders, in which a character called Nax was escaping the court. Then we would see Max utter an expletive then log into digital spy forum complaining that the Nax escape episode was beyond ridiculous. Then he would go and put the kettle on.
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Old 28-09-2015, 22:01
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They should have played the song Born Free in the background in my opinion. Would have made that scene,

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ISWOrI0WaLs
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Old 28-09-2015, 22:31
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The blood found on his shoes and in his place of work, plus the fact he lied a lot and even his daughter said he'd killed her.
Abi falsely claimed he confessed and then admitted she lied about that.

The blood on his shoes and at his place of work was purely circumstantial. Max gave a logical (and as we know true) explanation for that.

He's already been established as a lying cheat so the fact that he lied doesn't prove he killed her.

it would be ridiculous to have a guilty verdict based on so little evidence.
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Old 28-09-2015, 22:35
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Abi falsely claimed he confessed and then admitted she lied about that.

The blood on his shoes and at his place of work was purely circumstantial. Max gave a logical (and as we know true) explanation for that.

He's already been established as a lying cheat so the fact that he lied doesn't prove he killed her.

it would be ridiculous to have a guilty verdict based on so little evidence.
Maybe the jury got confused and they thought the charge was that he had a sexy arse?
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Old 28-09-2015, 22:39
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EE jumped the shark on this whole story line. It won't now probably conclude for another year ffs .. talk about long and drawn out.
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Old 28-09-2015, 22:58
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Interesting blog: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/eastender...7-38aaec3a6438

Also, it seems it was based on a real life case http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2...rue-story.html

Re Kathy you don't have to 'scour the news' to find out about the Canoe Man. It's a notable case that a lot of people will have heard of. They have only taken the insurance scam part of it. Kathy's story has the added element of an abusive marriage and neither she or Gavin were missing presumed dead. Before we start calling it unrealistic we need to hear the full story. We don't know what resources/connections they had to help them pull it off. The whole point is it's not the Kathy we used to know as she has been with a man who has been controlling her.
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Old 28-09-2015, 23:13
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All that BS from DTC about the Bobby revelation being "tragic" and "emotional" and "from the heart" has been somewhat undermined by the crass plotting and ludicrious twists that we've had since. I didn't think making Bobby the killer was the right decision and in hindsight, it now looks even worse.
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Old 28-09-2015, 23:15
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All that BS from DTC about the Bobby revelation being "tragic" and "emotional" and "from the heart" has been somewhat undermined by the crass plotting and ludicrious twists that we've had since. I didn't think making Bobby the killer was the right decision and in hindsight, it now looks even worse.
DTC LIES ALL THE TIME!!
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Old 28-09-2015, 23:17
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Got to say Keyser, this did make me laugh
Thanks.
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Old 28-09-2015, 23:18
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Just thought I would add my opinion:

LOVED the ending. REALLY well handled! I don't care if it was a little unrealistic, I know I'm not watching a BBC Documentary but a drama series. I also loved the little bit of vengeance when he punched the dirty cop.

Can't for the next few episodes now!
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Old 28-09-2015, 23:19
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We know the Walford police are like the keystone cops but this is so ridiculous and just plain tedious now. Not sure how much longer I can be bothered watching.
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Old 28-09-2015, 23:19
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DTC LIES ALL THE TIME!!
And unfortunately plenty of posters regurgitate his propaganda as if they are PR agents for the BBC ( ).

I thought Bobby should have been shopped at the time and I'm sure a lot more people think that now than did back in February. Not that I'm gloating or anything.
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Old 28-09-2015, 23:51
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I doubt it will be that damaging. Many will find it ludicrous but I bet they still tune in tomorrow. I cannot see people turning off in their millions over one event.

UFOs landing in the square, Dinosaurs taking over the vic and Shirley smiling would all be JTS moments that will damage the show. Someone escaping custody might not be common, but it does occasionally happen.

I watch soaps to be entertained and I certainly was tonight

Soaps are a mixture of things, while it was great we had Shabnams baby plot which was engaging I like the fact that they can still do entertaining plots too.
You're right they will tune in... but over time and with repeated examples they'll loose viewers
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Old 28-09-2015, 23:53
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There is definitely reasonable doubt in this case as there is no actual evidence that he killed Lucy, not tomention his alibi is the victims step mother. Even if they thought Jane was lying, why in the hell would that make them think that Max did it. It just incriminates Jane more than anything.

Philith is obviously pulling strings here. It's a pity Max didn't hit him before he left as well.
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Old 28-09-2015, 23:54
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Interesting blog: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/eastender...7-38aaec3a6438

Also, it seems it was based on a real life case http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2...rue-story.html

Re Kathy you don't have to 'scour the news' to find out about the Canoe Man. It's a notable case that a lot of people will have heard of. They have only taken the insurance scam part of it. Kathy's story has the added element of an abusive marriage and neither she or Gavin were missing presumed dead. Before we start calling it unrealistic we need to hear the full story. We don't know what resources/connections they had to help them pull it off. The whole point is it's not the Kathy we used to know as she has been with a man who has been controlling her.
The fact that something did happen is a cop out - i in no way makes something believable or realistic within the realm of EastEnders. My goodness search anything online and you'll find a story... Complete cop out. Defending his story as being "realistic" because a version of it happened?

Creative lot aren't they!
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