But she didn't on this occasion. Aisylene did. Someone who was not even in the house.

She is the logical choice. I mean, she did commit a crime (common assault) on national TV, thereby inciting others to commit acts of violence in a chain of retaliatory events. Incitement, common assault, breach of the peace... my, my, Ash-a-leen has been a very naughty girl.

I have seen countless acts of throwing drinks over someone on national television. Too numerous to mention - I have never known any of the 'throwers' to be convicted or cautioned for common assault.

Well, I can't really say much about incidents I don't know anything about. All I do know is that throwing drinks over people is prohibited by UK law. I dunno, maybe none of those people were interested in pursuing legal action?

That doesn't mean they aren't common assault. In any case, did any of them have to sort of consequences Aisleyne's drink-throwing did? How many of them weren't scripted?

What incident do you think the police statement was about, if it wasn't one that involved Aisleyne? The Mirror certainly thought it was about Aisleyne, since that's what was in the article.

Who knows? How would anyone know - all the action took place 'off air'. People are quick to assume it's about Aisleyne - amongst the many articles printed I read that Janice's hand is black and blue as she supposedly raised her hand to stop Farrah throwing another glass. There are lots of conflicting versions of 'the truth' out there.

Article in the DM says that Farrah threw two champagne glasses in Aisleyne's direction to make her back off. I thought she aimed for the wall? If you throw something in someone's general direction, I'd have trouble in believing it wasn't meant to hit that someone. Why two glasses if she only meant to hit the wall? That doesn't make any sense.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...CBB-drama.html

Why not two glasses if you only meant to hit the wall? Is there something about walls that means you'll only try to hit one once? What "doesn't make any sense" about it?

Re throwing something in someone's general direction, that happens all the time without any intention to hit the person. So that too isn't something that doesn't make any sense.

Why on earth would Farrah throw the glasses at the wall. Aisleyne threw the wine at Farrah and it is obvious that Farrah threw the glasses back at Aisleyne, otherwise why on earth would she throw the glasses. It makes no sense.

I will eat my hat if it turns out to be different to this.

Re the throwing at the wall ............personally I'm not sure how that's supposed to make it more palatable. There were five people on the panel - Rylan in front of the panel and a studio audience - if you throw glass at a wall it's gonna shatter.

If you throw one in temper - surely you'd have a wake up call and think 's*it - that's dangerous - I shouldn't have done that' - but oh no attention seeking, 'not all there', Farrah thinks it's a good idea to throw another one.

That's just mental in an enclosed space with a lot of people about.

Actually, the HMs' accounts agree pretty well about what happened.

Random articles making random claims about Janice don't seem significant to me.

Even the Mirror interprets the police statement as meaning "the incident between Aisleyne and Farrah is still being investigated", and no one's so far been able to point to Aisleyne saying that's not true, which she certainly could say if it wasn't.

The theories that the police saying "Enquiries in connection with another assault allegation continue" might be about some random other assault allegation look like clutching at straws to me.

In my own personal opinion if one wanted to make someone back off, I would think that hitting a wall once would be enough to make anyone sit up and take notice. You must agree it's rather a dangerous thing to do, throwing glass about now isn't it? Especially given that there were two people in that general direction sitting not far in front of the wall.

Well, say what you will, you'd have to be some kind of numpty, again in my own personal opinion, to throw glass in someone's general direction and not realise that it could possibly hit them. Or in this case seemingly hit Vicky.

Whichever way you want to dress it up Farrah is sugar coating her own actions.

That's why you don't go throwing glass in the direction of another person, with the best will in the world once it leaves your hand you have no way of knowing if it will miss someone or indeed hit them.

yes .

I'd have trouble believing it too , and of course she did hit vicky , who (from Farrah's pov) was right between her and Ash .

Exactly.

I'd never throw glass for any reason. It's not something you do. Whether at a wall, on the floor, or indeed in someone's general direction hoping to miss them.

I can't think why anyone would want to do that. Anyone that thinks it's ok to throw glass is just plain silly. How that action can be justified is beyond me.

IMO of course.

Well you asked is there a link to say she wasn't under investigation so I returned it to you to ask is there one to say she is?

My view as you say was only what was already claimed in the mirror article about Farrah and Janice being warned. No new info I am afraid.

The closer article Aisleyne tweeted she was up to 5am writing it, who knows how they edited it and for what reason. But Aisleyne did tweet the fact she was writing for Closer in any case she has another article in Star magazine which is probably the same story.

Anyway I think it is over so we can all get on with our lives as Aisleyne already has.

It's not at all clear that from Farrah's POV Vicki was right between her and Ash. Vicki seemed to think it could have hit Ash if she hadn't been in the way, but even in Vicki's own account she was looking the other way when it happened -- she was trying to "stop Aisleyne" -- and so doesn't know how it would have seemed from Farrah's POV.

Why would I clutch at straws? I'm not that obsessed with Aisleyne to just make anything at all up.

I'm simply saying - it was (to me) ambiguous - I know I'm in a minority but I do see wine/water throwing as a bit of live TV panto and not worth charging somebody over.

I just think the 'allegation' bit could be regarding anything.

For that, I'll refer you to the reply I have earlier, since that doesn't call for any substantial change in what I said.


I looked at the Closer article you linked, and there is nothing about it that suggests Aisleyne had any hand in writing it. It doesn't say it's written by her; it's not from her POV; it relies on the Mirror when it quotes something Aisleyne said; and it's just about Aisleyne being scantily dressed at some event and saying she's giving up drink.

If she stayed up writing an article, I don't think it can be that one.

"Clutching at straws" doesn't mean making things up.

Sure, if they did back off.

It seems to be the 2nd glass that hit Vicki, and in Vicki's account (video version, anyway), when the glass hit "my head went forward 'cause I tried to stop Aisleyne". So it doesn't sound like Aisleyne had backed off.

(BTW, as I understand it, Farrah's version is that she threw one glass on the floor and one at the wall, rather than two at the wall.)


Of course what Farrah did with the glasses was dangerous (has anyone disagreed?) and I think it was at least reckless (in the legal sense) too.

Not disagreed as such, but many seem to be trying to justify her actions, or trying to imply it was the wall she was aiming at, as if somehow that makes it ok.



ETA ooops something went awry there, but I think you can see what I've said.

Aisleyne reveals she’s given up drinking following THAT Celebrity Big Brother row
http://www.closeronline.co.uk/2015/0...ig-brother-row

Farrah taunted Ash into throwing champagne over her? Uhh... just... no. If anything Ash was constantly taunting Farrah throughout the show!

What are the two versions you're talking about?
And what is it you think doesn't match up?

I was talking about what you refer to as Farrah's "detailed account", btw. In it she says "If I hadn't of thrown a glass on the floor and at the wall in defence to make her back off, I believe she may have attacked me further. I was frightened by her hostility and behaviour."

You must have missed it in my previous post Veri.

This article.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...CBB-drama.html

It clearly states that Farrah said she threw two glasses in the direction of Aisleyne. Not one on the floor and another at the wall.

In her detailed account of events, Farrah claims she only reacted to Aisleyne's attack - which she claims was 'planned and pre-meditated' - by throwing two champagne glasses in her direction to make her 'back off'.


Hope that's of help. That's why the two versions don't add up.

Farrah needs to decide on a version and stick to it.



ETA in your post you said this. Hence the confusion to which version Farrah needs to stick to.

(BTW, as I understand it, Farrah's version is that she threw one glass on the floor and one at the wall, rather than two at the wall.)