* Nexus 6P and 5X *

Stuart P · 30-09-2015, 18:27

cpw are keeping their ice exclusive for contract deals only.

Stiggles · 30-09-2015, 19:06

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cpw are keeping their ice exclusive for contract deals only.

They did this with the 5 as well which annoyed me. The only shop that sold them to us was one in Perth. They wouldn't sell them to me, but about a half hour later the Mrs went in and they sold them too her!! Dunno if the low cut top she had on helped haha!

Thinking of a change from my Z2 and getting one of these...

Denco1 · 30-09-2015, 20:49

Well apparently USB 3.0 controllers still generate quite a bit of heat and use more power compared to USB 2.0 controllers so the Nexus 5X/6P will be 2.0 only.

I guess that rules out TV output on the 5X/6P too.

rosetech · 01-10-2015, 17:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denco1

Well apparently USB 3.0 controllers still generate quite a bit of heat and use more power compared to USB 2.0 controllers so the Nexus 5X/6P will be 2.0 only.

I guess that rules out TV output on the 5X/6P too.

I would suspect most Nexus owners use chromecast to beam to their TVs.

rosetech · 01-10-2015, 17:15

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Originally Posted by AxeVictim

I agree daft idea might as well not be there for me, if the phone is on my desk or a table i now have to pick it up and fumble for the sensor.Rather than just place your finger on a front sensor.Hopefully it will still have knock code so you can unlock it that way.

If you dont want to use the finger scan, you can use the smart unlock to do the same thing, without needing to pick up the device. I think it works across location, bluetooth, nfc and face recognition.

1manonthebog · 01-10-2015, 17:26

I bought the Nexus 4 when it was £150 or something, which was an amazing price for what you got, not bothered since, to expensive, this is more than double the price of the N4, Google have missed a trick with this pricing since the N4,

finbaar · 01-10-2015, 18:09

The Nexus 4 was £239 for the 16gb model when first released. The 5X is priced about right for what you get

1manonthebog · 01-10-2015, 18:14

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Originally Posted by finbaar

The Nexus 4 was £239 for the 16gb model when first released. The 5X is priced about right for what you get

Was it? Mine was 8GB I definitely didn't pay £239 for it and it was new, I think I got mine on Amazon or somewhere

AxeVictim · 01-10-2015, 18:56

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Originally Posted by 1manonthebog

Was it? Mine was 8GB I definitely didn't pay £239 for it and it was new, I think I got mine on Amazon or somewhere

It was £239 for the 8Gb and £279 for the 16GB.
I just sold my used( not much mind) 8GB version for £90.

Denco1 · 01-10-2015, 19:11

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Originally Posted by rosetech

I would suspect most Nexus owners use chromecast to beam to their TVs.

Most yes, but slimport/mhl still has its advantages of nearly no latency, better image/audio quality and no WiFi connection needed.

Seems a shame Google went all out advertising the benefits of USB type C on the Chromebook Pixel, but nearly none of those benefits apply to the Nexus 5X/6P.

Another issue is most type c cables currently being sold seem to be the 2.0 standard, so when type c thunderbolt, slimport etc devices do come to market it will have to be explained users need another cable which looks identical, not exactly user friendly.

Denco1 · 01-10-2015, 19:13

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Originally Posted by 1manonthebog

I bought the Nexus 4 when it was £150 or something, which was an amazing price for what you got, not bothered since, to expensive, this is more than double the price of the N4, Google have missed a trick with this pricing since the N4,

I think that was just before the Nexus 5 was announced to clear stocks, I don't think many were sold for that discount price.

Dave23 · 01-10-2015, 21:52

A fingerprint sensor on the back is not much good if you are going to use a case to protect your phone

alanwarwic · 01-10-2015, 22:00

Theres already one hole in that argument.

Zack06 · 02-10-2015, 00:35

Anyone else having the dilemma of 5X or 6P?

The 6P looks brilliant but I just don't know if I could put up with the size. The 5X looks great as well, but I can't help but feeling that Google purposely cut back on features to make people lean towards the 6P.

I think 2GB RAM on the 5X is a little concerning, especially considering most devices are pushing towards 3GB and 4GB.

There is the costs argument I guess, but it's a shame that while the size seems more manageable, the phone itself seems to have been nerfed in favour of the 6P.

Decisions, decisions.

jonmorris · 02-10-2015, 02:03

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Originally Posted by Dave23

A fingerprint sensor on the back is not much good if you are going to use a case to protect your phone

Cases haven't been a problem for the Huawei Mate 7, Mate S, or Honor 7, or indeed to access the buttons on a G3 or G4.

My Honor 7 has a cut out for the reader. Simple! The cases for the new Nexus phones do too.

rosetech · 02-10-2015, 06:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zack06

Anyone else having the dilemma of 5X or 6P?

The 6P looks brilliant but I just don't know if I could put up with the size. The 5X looks great as well, but I can't help but feeling that Google purposely cut back on features to make people lean towards the 6P.

I think 2GB RAM on the 5X is a little concerning, especially considering most devices are pushing towards 3GB and 4GB.

There is the costs argument I guess, but it's a shame that while the size seems more manageable, the phone itself seems to have been nerfed in favour of the 6P.

Decisions, decisions.

To be honest I didnt even consider the 5X as I already have a 5.5 inch device (OnePlus One). I am not sure why smaller screen phones always get lower specs as its quite annoying. In this case, Google were aiming at two markets so it makes sense - on Sony Z5 compact that 720p screen is just wrong.

ACU · 02-10-2015, 07:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zack06

Anyone else having the dilemma of 5X or 6P?

The 6P looks brilliant but I just don't know if I could put up with the size. The 5X looks great as well, but I can't help but feeling that Google purposely cut back on features to make people lean towards the 6P.

I think 2GB RAM on the 5X is a little concerning, especially considering most devices are pushing towards 3GB and 4GB.

There is the costs argument I guess, but it's a shame that while the size seems more manageable, the phone itself seems to have been nerfed in favour of the 6P.

Decisions, decisions.

Yes but how many phone in the 5x price bracket have 3GB of RAM? I dont think 2GB is an issue. Its only an issue when you see there are devices with 3GB. Once devices have 4GB, then people will think 3GB is an issue. I really dont think it is an issue.

I agree with you the 6p does look stunning from the pictures.

jonmorris · 02-10-2015, 08:00

I don't even think 1GB RAM is an issue for most people/situations. However an industry desperate to entice you to upgrade likes the idea of gradually increasing it.

In most cases, it's really not like needing more RAM on a computer.

omnidirectional · 19-10-2015, 13:17

Just got notification from Google that my 5X has shipped today (with Parcelforce). I pre-ordered on 30th September, so it seems that they're now being sent out.

30-09-2015, 19:06	#52
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	Quote: Originally Posted by Stuart P cpw are keeping their ice exclusive for contract deals only. They did this with the 5 as well which annoyed me. The only shop that sold them to us was one in Perth. They wouldn't sell them to me, but about a half hour later the Mrs went in and they sold them too her!! Dunno if the low cut top she had on helped haha! Thinking of a change from my Z2 and getting one of these...

30-09-2015, 18:27	#51
Stuart P Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hitchin Posts: 922	cpw are keeping their ice exclusive for contract deals only.

30-09-2015, 20:49	#53
Denco1 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 983	Well apparently USB 3.0 controllers still generate quite a bit of heat and use more power compared to USB 2.0 controllers so the Nexus 5X/6P will be 2.0 only. I guess that rules out TV output on the 5X/6P too.

01-10-2015, 17:10	#54
rosetech Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,058	Quote: Originally Posted by Denco1 Well apparently USB 3.0 controllers still generate quite a bit of heat and use more power compared to USB 2.0 controllers so the Nexus 5X/6P will be 2.0 only. I guess that rules out TV output on the 5X/6P too. I would suspect most Nexus owners use chromecast to beam to their TVs.

01-10-2015, 17:15	#55
rosetech Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,058	Quote: Originally Posted by AxeVictim I agree daft idea might as well not be there for me, if the phone is on my desk or a table i now have to pick it up and fumble for the sensor.Rather than just place your finger on a front sensor.Hopefully it will still have knock code so you can unlock it that way. If you dont want to use the finger scan, you can use the smart unlock to do the same thing, without needing to pick up the device. I think it works across location, bluetooth, nfc and face recognition.

01-10-2015, 17:26	#56
1manonthebog Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 2,332	I bought the Nexus 4 when it was £150 or something, which was an amazing price for what you got, not bothered since, to expensive, this is more than double the price of the N4, Google have missed a trick with this pricing since the N4,

01-10-2015, 18:09	#57
finbaar Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,921	The Nexus 4 was £239 for the 16gb model when first released. The 5X is priced about right for what you get

01-10-2015, 18:14	#58
1manonthebog Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 2,332	Quote: Originally Posted by finbaar The Nexus 4 was £239 for the 16gb model when first released. The 5X is priced about right for what you get Was it? Mine was 8GB I definitely didn't pay £239 for it and it was new, I think I got mine on Amazon or somewhere

01-10-2015, 18:56	#59
AxeVictim Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 2,644	Quote: Originally Posted by 1manonthebog Was it? Mine was 8GB I definitely didn't pay £239 for it and it was new, I think I got mine on Amazon or somewhere It was £239 for the 8Gb and £279 for the 16GB. I just sold my used( not much mind) 8GB version for £90.

01-10-2015, 19:11	#60
Denco1 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 983	Quote: Originally Posted by rosetech I would suspect most Nexus owners use chromecast to beam to their TVs. Most yes, but slimport/mhl still has its advantages of nearly no latency, better image/audio quality and no WiFi connection needed. Seems a shame Google went all out advertising the benefits of USB type C on the Chromebook Pixel, but nearly none of those benefits apply to the Nexus 5X/6P. Another issue is most type c cables currently being sold seem to be the 2.0 standard, so when type c thunderbolt, slimport etc devices do come to market it will have to be explained users need another cable which looks identical, not exactly user friendly.

01-10-2015, 19:13	#61
Denco1 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 983	Quote: Originally Posted by 1manonthebog I bought the Nexus 4 when it was £150 or something, which was an amazing price for what you got, not bothered since, to expensive, this is more than double the price of the N4, Google have missed a trick with this pricing since the N4, I think that was just before the Nexus 5 was announced to clear stocks, I don't think many were sold for that discount price.

01-10-2015, 21:52	#62
Dave23 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Preston Posts: 307	A fingerprint sensor on the back is not much good if you are going to use a case to protect your phone

01-10-2015, 22:00	#63
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Theres already one hole in that argument.

02-10-2015, 00:35	#64
Zack06 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 27,438	Anyone else having the dilemma of 5X or 6P? The 6P looks brilliant but I just don't know if I could put up with the size. The 5X looks great as well, but I can't help but feeling that Google purposely cut back on features to make people lean towards the 6P. I think 2GB RAM on the 5X is a little concerning, especially considering most devices are pushing towards 3GB and 4GB. There is the costs argument I guess, but it's a shame that while the size seems more manageable, the phone itself seems to have been nerfed in favour of the 6P. Decisions, decisions.

02-10-2015, 02:03	#65
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Quote: Originally Posted by Dave23 A fingerprint sensor on the back is not much good if you are going to use a case to protect your phone Cases haven't been a problem for the Huawei Mate 7, Mate S, or Honor 7, or indeed to access the buttons on a G3 or G4. My Honor 7 has a cut out for the reader. Simple! The cases for the new Nexus phones do too.

02-10-2015, 06:36	#66
rosetech Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,058	Quote: Originally Posted by Zack06 Anyone else having the dilemma of 5X or 6P? The 6P looks brilliant but I just don't know if I could put up with the size. The 5X looks great as well, but I can't help but feeling that Google purposely cut back on features to make people lean towards the 6P. I think 2GB RAM on the 5X is a little concerning, especially considering most devices are pushing towards 3GB and 4GB. There is the costs argument I guess, but it's a shame that while the size seems more manageable, the phone itself seems to have been nerfed in favour of the 6P. Decisions, decisions. To be honest I didnt even consider the 5X as I already have a 5.5 inch device (OnePlus One). I am not sure why smaller screen phones always get lower specs as its quite annoying. In this case, Google were aiming at two markets so it makes sense - on Sony Z5 compact that 720p screen is just wrong.

02-10-2015, 07:48	#67
ACU Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 7,916	Quote: Originally Posted by Zack06 Anyone else having the dilemma of 5X or 6P? The 6P looks brilliant but I just don't know if I could put up with the size. The 5X looks great as well, but I can't help but feeling that Google purposely cut back on features to make people lean towards the 6P. I think 2GB RAM on the 5X is a little concerning, especially considering most devices are pushing towards 3GB and 4GB. There is the costs argument I guess, but it's a shame that while the size seems more manageable, the phone itself seems to have been nerfed in favour of the 6P. Decisions, decisions. Yes but how many phone in the 5x price bracket have 3GB of RAM? I dont think 2GB is an issue. Its only an issue when you see there are devices with 3GB. Once devices have 4GB, then people will think 3GB is an issue. I really dont think it is an issue. I agree with you the 6p does look stunning from the pictures.

02-10-2015, 08:00	#68
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	I don't even think 1GB RAM is an issue for most people/situations. However an industry desperate to entice you to upgrade likes the idea of gradually increasing it. In most cases, it's really not like needing more RAM on a computer.

19-10-2015, 13:17	#69
omnidirectional Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 10,879	Just got notification from Google that my 5X has shipped today (with Parcelforce). I pre-ordered on 30th September, so it seems that they're now being sent out.

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