I fear without a change of format or a fresh element or feature to the show Big Brother's days are numbered. Ratings are gradually dwindling down with every series seeming to be a recycled version of the last.

Many of you probably believe a back-to-basics approach would be the answer, but I don't believe it will. In my opinion it's time for something fresh, but what that "fresh" is, that is the question.

Anyone think the Celebs should be able to discuss nominations?

It'd be interesting to see famous folk plotting and scheming to get each other out at free will.

Noms talk was allowed in BB13 briefly if I remember correctly, did we like this?

Yes and a return of producers who knew what they were doing with the show. Having sharon powers back would IMHO be the best thing to be honest, she was strong in what she did and loved her job of being the big boss of the show. If she does return I'd like her to clean up the mess denis O'connor has made.

janaury celeb ratings haven't fallen.(It's only on for 3/4 weeks and there's the benefit of them being familiar) I'm not sure what can be done to the civilian version, it's never going to be a big show again(ratings wise) and people are that bored of it that i can't see them tuning back in even if there were change. It's days are numbered...

Survivor US and big brother UK pretty much started at the same time no? Survivor is in its 15th year, and 31st season, and seasons 27 and 28 have been imo the best seasons yet, and the reason is the show has evolved, the players have evolved, and the game has evolved. Big brother hasn't and that's why I think it's slowly dying.

Going Back to basics would be the kiss of death . That was 2000. A different world, when reality TV was still something new and the concept fascinating.

I'm not totally aware of the International versions of the show, are they any different or do they adopt the UK format?

Definitely should be NO noms talk at all - ever !

The producers need to stop with the orange hued, sparkling white toothed extras who have already appeared on TV (complete with agents), & choose the real Joe public as HM's!
They need to stop with outside information, F&F making nominations, disclosing Diary room conversations & constantly trying to engineer arguments between HM's!
Stop handing everything on a plate to them, make them work for their stay. Make them bake their own bread, grow their own vegetables & power their supply of electricity. It shouldn't be a holiday camp, reward them only when it's warranted & not an every day occurrence!
Without a LF it's become a soap opera/Towie, you could almost believe the HM's are given a script each morning & follow that remit.

NO, NO, NO! Nomination talk should NEVER EVER be allowed! It's boring for the viewing public to watch! That's the main reason I never liked the US version.

IIRC, the general consensus was no, it wasn't deemed popular. I can remember lots of comments on here and on BOTS that they didn't like the noms talk and wanted it to be banned.


When people say BB should go back to basics, I don't think they mean that it should be an exact replica of the first series. I think they're saying that they should do things like Scots rool says: http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...58&postcount=8

BB4 was given the "boring" tag, (I never found it boring and really enjoyed the series, myself, but hey ho), and they completely changed the format from BB5 onwards. Instead of having ordinary members of the public, they cast OTT characters who would deliberately clash with each other. IMO, they didn't need to do change the format. Look at shows like IAC, for example. We've had 14 series of it, and give or take a few updates here and there, the show has more or less exactly the same format today as it did back in the first series, and the ratings for it have not suffered at all.

Yes it does. I'd revert it to the old style format from a decade ago, and I'd completely change the stage set outside.

I also feel the house could do with being expanded, perhaps made into a two storey or something to just refresh the format/show.

No matter what happens, people will moan. After bb12 people wanted a more competitive series so first weel of bb13 noms were allowed to be discussed.

It was met with overwhelming negativity.

Said it before, but all they need to do is watch BB AUS and learn from the masters. The nominations chamber and the weekly games that were held to see who could win immunity from the vote were the best elements of the format. THAT along with the BB voice who was a star of the show all on his own made it a great show to get hooked on. I remember one magic moment when there had been a row in the garden among housemates which resulted in a very awkward silence with no one speaking, and suddenly the BB voice came over and very tentatively said…. "Well" They all just burst out laughing. BBUK producers should be tied to chairs in a dark room and make to watch BB AUS 2013. The greatest series of all and a blueprint for how to make the show correctly.

Yes, BBAU is what I feel BBUK could have been today had the format not changed so drastically from BB5 onwards.

I did like BBAU 2013, apart from Tim. I couldn't stand him. Hugely arrogant, hugely contrived and HUGELY, HUGELY irritating. He tried to make other people look bad in order to make himself look good. And if somebody dished it out to him, he couldn't stand it and threw a tantrum. He adored dishing it out, but he could not take it at all.

Someone in another forum summed him up like this (from post 23 onwards): http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/topic/...2#.VhBIE_lViko

I've only watched one or two episodes of BBAU, but from what I've seen it has a better vibe and feel than the UK version.

The BB's in the Aus version are really really strict, & expect & mostly receive, respect. Our HM's have absolutely no respect for ours - they behave as if they're doing them a favour by even being there!

BBUK producers should all be sacked!

Yes 4 things Imo should be changed - as bb and cbb are entertainment shows ( which because of the organised conflict by the producers is not the case now )

1 continue the introduction of games both physical and mental where booze is not the housemates only entertainment.It was great in cbb to see the games

2 As in other countries reduce the number of bb episodes to maybe 4 action packed episodes a week.A longer show could result and eviction interviews still as part of the show.

3 cancel bbots as it serves no purpose - I feel the producers are trying to influence voting by which guests are on the panel.

4 allow the housemates to talk about nominations and evictions in a special room because its nice to know what the housemates really think.

What uk producers don't understand that conflict will occur naturally when housemates are wanting to win £150k or maybe £250k if savings are made by cancelling bbbots.

Absolutely right, the clps of BB Aus i have seen, the BB is brutal and takes no sh*t and the hms always respect them, totally different to here !!

Doubt if 2 storeys is allowed, maybe on safety grounds.

The only thing that will change is the decoration and the tasks.

It needs to be axed.

I was wondering if there was a way they could get the participants to audition without knowing it was for BB, to try and weed out some of the usual Towie wannabees. Maybe pretend it was for a new show or something.
I've like the idea i've read on other threads about not allowing anyone on who already has an agent, or who has featured in other reality shows (quiz shows are OK though).

I don't think it's the format as such that needs changing, just how they deal with the housemates once they're in there. I've never seen any of the other country's versions but from what i've read on here BBUK could definitely use some of their ideas.