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Best Modem RJ11 Cable
TheVoid
01-10-2015
I need a decent 10m modem cable for my BT infinity. Any suggestions? Is there a particular kind I need or will a simple extension cable from currys be ok?

Is this a decent enough one?

http://m.ebuyer.com/267650

It does seem pretty thick so I'd kind of prefer to get this:

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/phones...09460-pdt.html

Does that seem like it could give me poor performance?

Thanks
syko29793
01-10-2015
A better choice of cable would be an RJ11 to RJ45.

something like this

http://www.amazon.co.uk/LINDY-RJ-11-...j45+to+rj11+1m

They tend to be better quality.
The RJ45 end fits into your filter/Openreach socket and the RJ11 goes to the hub.

I have one and i gained a 5 meg speed increase,
TheVoid
01-10-2015
Originally Posted by syko29793:
“A better choice of cable would be an RJ11 to RJ45.

something like this

http://www.amazon.co.uk/LINDY-RJ-11-...j45+to+rj11+1m

They tend to be better quality.
The RJ45 end fits into your filter/Openreach socket and the RJ11 goes to the hub.

I have one and i gained a 5 meg speed increase,”

I thought I needed an RJ11 to RJ11?
chrisjr
01-10-2015
Originally Posted by TheVoid:
“I thought I needed an RJ11 to RJ11?”

The socket on the Openreach Infinity master socket is an RJ45 type. It is physically compatible with RJ11 and just so happens to be wired such that it is electrically compatible as well.

So as long as the wiring is correct it matters not if you have a RJ11 or RJ45 plug at the master socket end. And it is unlikely that a simple change from RJ11 to RJ45 will have any effect at all on performance. The most likely explanation for the speed increase noticed by syko29793 is the quality of materials used and the construction of the cable compared to the one being used previously. An RJ11 to RJ11 of similar quality would work just as well.

Of the two you linked to in the OP the Belkin cable is likely to be better. The PCWorld cable I would only use as a phone extension lead. Though given a choice I might be more inclined towards the Lindy lead from Amazon than the Belkin.

Though the one linked to above is just 1m, this is the 10m version

http://www.amazon.co.uk/LINDY-RJ-11-...dp/B00B9CKHM4/
TheVoid
01-10-2015
Originally Posted by chrisjr:
“The socket on the Openreach Infinity master socket is an RJ45 type. It is physically compatible with RJ11 and just so happens to be wired such that it is electrically compatible as well.

So as long as the wiring is correct it matters not if you have a RJ11 or RJ45 plug at the master socket end. And it is unlikely that a simple change from RJ11 to RJ45 will have any effect at all on performance. The most likely explanation for the speed increase noticed by syko29793 is the quality of materials used and the construction of the cable compared to the one being used previously. An RJ11 to RJ11 of similar quality would work just as well.

Of the two you linked to in the OP the Belkin cable is likely to be better. The PCWorld cable I would only use as a phone extension lead. Though given a choice I might be more inclined towards the Lindy lead from Amazon than the Belkin.

Though the one linked to above is just 1m, this is the 10m version

http://www.amazon.co.uk/LINDY-RJ-11-...dp/B00B9CKHM4/”

Thanks, so the one from currys is likely to be poor?

That Belkin one will be too thick to go through my doorway. The Lindy one seems OK but not sure how it differs from the currys one.
TheVoid
01-10-2015
Is this one OK?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/RJ11-RJ45-Te...+to+rj45+white
chrisjr
02-10-2015
Originally Posted by TheVoid:
“Thanks, so the one from currys is likely to be poor?

That Belkin one will be too thick to go through my doorway. The Lindy one seems OK but not sure how it differs from the currys one.”

The Currys one looks to be poorer quality than the Lindy. Most things I've bought from Lindy have been decently made from good quality components.

How were you planning to run the cable through the doorway? Please do not say under the door in the gap between it and the carpet or under the carpet. Or round the frame in whatever gap there is. That will only end in tears. No matter how carefully you do it the cable will get broken. Trust me I've been there done that read the teeshirt

The correct way to do it is to drill a hole in the frame and feed the cable through the hole. Though that is a lot easier if you don't have a connector on the end of the wire. Wouldn't bother me as I have made up more RJxx plugs than I care to count but can understand why that might not appeal to everyone.
TheVoid
02-10-2015
It was going to go through the door frame. I fed an Ethernet cable through and its not really a tight squeeze so thought it would be ok. This is why I was going to go for the flat cable from currys.
moox
02-10-2015
Another option might be something like this: http://www.claritybroadband.co.uk/cl...nsion-Kit.html

As the name suggests it basically is what Openreach themselves would use if you wanted the modem/router far away from the master socket.
TheVoid
02-10-2015
Originally Posted by moox:
“Another option might be something like this: http://www.claritybroadband.co.uk/cl...nsion-Kit.html

As the name suggests it basically is what Openreach themselves would use if you wanted the modem/router far away from the master socket.”

Thanks, although I need to buy something today. It's actually really hard to find a shop that sells decent cable it seems.
MeanMint
02-10-2015
If you have an ethernet run already why do you need the extra length modem connection. Have your hub as close to the telephone point as possible and run ethernet from the Gig port at the back onto where you want and have a switch with extra ports if needed.
TheVoid
02-10-2015
Originally Posted by MeanMint:
“If you have an ethernet run already why do you need the extra length modem connection. Have your hub as close to the telephone point as possible and run ethernet from the Gig port at the back onto where you want and have a switch with extra ports if needed.”

I need the router in the lounge
lonewaller
02-10-2015
Originally Posted by TheVoid:
“Thanks, although I need to buy something today. It's actually really hard to find a shop that sells decent cable it seems.”

It appears time is not on your side. Another option would have been to buy a "modem" only unit for the hall and then use Ethernet to connect to a "router" in the lounge. I believe the HH5 can be used in this manor.

Brian
TheVoid
02-10-2015
Originally Posted by lonewaller:
“It appears time is not on your side. Another option would have been to buy a "modem" only unit for the hall and then use Ethernet to connect to a "router" in the lounge. I believe the HH5 can be used in this manor.

Brian”

Thanks. I think I'll just get the ultra flat cable from currys. I'm using the bt provided cable at the moment which is 3m long and get the full speed so it might be worth me trying this first.
MeanMint
02-10-2015
Originally Posted by TheVoid:
“I need the router in the lounge”

Why the need for the router in the lounge. Ideally our router should be in the lounge but that would mean having a cable of about 20m running from the telephone point.

Homeplug to lounge and switch bingo, sorted. No loss in broadband speed as the homeplug reports 178Mbps transfer speed.
lonewaller
02-10-2015
Originally Posted by TheVoid:
“Thanks. I think I'll just get the ultra flat cable from currys. I'm using the bt provided cable at the moment which is 3m long and get the full speed so it might be worth me trying this first.”

If it works at an acceptable speed then you're sorted. If not, you'll have bought yourself some time to think about what to do next.

Brian
moox
02-10-2015
Originally Posted by MeanMint:
“Why the need for the router in the lounge. Ideally our router should be in the lounge but that would mean having a cable of about 20m running from the telephone point.

Homeplug to lounge and switch bingo, sorted. No loss in broadband speed as the homeplug reports 178Mbps transfer speed.”

Homeplugs are a horrible kludge and may cause interference to other services. Best to run a cable, always - whether you do ethernet or VDSL through it.

It's cheaper to run a cable, too, and more futureproof
TheVoid
03-10-2015
I got the flat cable from Curry's. Just as good as the cable that came with the hub. Still getting 37mb down and 9mb up which is the same as before.
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