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Did Lawrence Whites "gay cure" past really happen to homosexuals? |
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Did Lawrence Whites "gay cure" past really happen to homosexuals?
Electric shock treatment/chemical castration and god knows what else... was prison really that bad for gay men?
First time I have found him interesting. |
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Aversion therapy - still happens today in the USA
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Yes it was.
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Lawrence was great tonight. He has a fantastic backstory which is finally being explored.
The Whites made a decent impact upon arrival but I'm glad their main stories have come a bit a later and they haven't been rammed down our throats in the vein hope we'd accept then. Even vile little weirdo Lucky seems to be in it for the long haul. I'm waiting to hear what happened to Chrisse in the past to cause her to raise a sex offending loon. |
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Yes it did. Or you could, like Turing, have it to avoid going to prison.
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Soaps shouldn't be showing this..
Why are they messing with nature? |
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Aversion therapy - still happens today in the USA
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Yep - it's a horrible thought - and that it still goes on in the USA today is frankly disgusting...
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Soaps shouldn't be showing this..
Why are they messing with nature? I saw a documentary where Dr Christian Jessen went for it done in America, and it was appalling. They shocked him with electrodes until he was sat in pools of his own vomit for hours. Awful |
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Yes, it did happen here, been gay wasn't legalised in the UK until 1967 and all sorts of treatments and therapies were used to try and "cure" then. But was taboo for years after that. In fact in the 1980s, section 28 was passed which banned schools from "Promoting" homosexuality and was only repealed in 2003.
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You need to remember being Gay was considered an illness and against the law. Being gay then was like being a pedophile now. It was like the worst disgusting thing a human being could ever be.
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Aversion therapy - still happens today in the USA
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There was a storyline in the last series of Call the Midwife (set in the 60's) where a gay man had to accept a prescription for oestrogen to avoid prison and was warned by the doctor that he'd develop breasts, become infertile etc. Just awful.
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Do you mean the aversion therapy and them trying to rid him of his sexuality? It's pretty disturbing but totally true that it happened and still does in parts of the world.
I saw a documentary where Dr Christian Jessen went for it done in America, and it was appalling. They shocked him with electrodes until he was sat in pools of his own vomit for hours. Awful Didn't Dr Christian go to Africa too? I also remember that documentary on BBC3 'The Worlds Worst Place to be gay' & it was in Africa somewhere & the presenter didn't reveal himself as gay until they were due to leave & he was nearly caught & put in prison. |
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Yes it happened and it didn't just ruin the life of the man entire families were destroyed by the abuse. Growing up with a gay dad who had been imprisoned when he was young was no fun at all the effects of it carry on through the generations as we have a quite dysfunctional family all built on that.
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Aversion therapy - still happens today in the USA
It tends to be religious folk that endorse this and claim to pray the gay away and other vile evil BS |
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The scene with Bernice was heart breaking but so well done by all. It was also another scene that reaffirmed my beliefs that John is a fantastic addition to the show and that Lawrence is a great character. Loved him with Eric earlier. The man should do audiobooks.
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Mainly because of Christians and their mistranslated cherry-picked homophobia
It tends to be religious folk that endorse this and claim to pray the gay away and other vile evil BS Great post They like to pick and choose what is acceptable from the bible. They turn a blind eye to adultry or sex before marriage, all of which were punishable offenses once upon a time, but homosexuality still wont be allowed. |
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Spot on
Great post They like to pick and choose what is acceptable from the bible. They turn a blind eye to adultry or sex before marriage, all of which were punishable offenses once upon a time, but homosexuality still wont be allowed. ![]() They do pick & choose what they believe which is so annoying as they'll turn a blind eye indeed. |
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Lawrence's scenes last night were great. I like how they made that his motivation for not wanting Chrissie to be locked up.
I wish really that they spent more time exploring Lawrence's past, instead of this Who Shot Robert stuff, which is boring my knickers off. |
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Lawrence's scenes last night were great. I like how they made that his motivation for not wanting Chrissie to be locked up.
I wish really that they spent more time exploring Lawrence's past, instead of this Who Shot Robert stuff, which is boring my knickers off. mind you my ex wife probably thinks I did that anyway ![]() Anyway, Hands up, who's not been accused of shooting Robert yet? |
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interesting technique.... I'll have to give it go sometime
mind you my ex wife probably thinks I did that anyway ![]() Anyway, Hands up, who's not been accused of shooting Robert yet?
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Lawrence was great tonight. He has a fantastic backstory which is finally being explored.
The Whites made a decent impact upon arrival but I'm glad their main stories have come a bit a later and they haven't been rammed down our throats in the vein hope we'd accept then. Even vile little weirdo Lucky seems to be in it for the long haul. I'm waiting to hear what happened to Chrisse in the past to cause her to raise a sex offending loon. I'm sure nothing happened to Chrissie to have raised a sex offending loon, and am surprised you would even suggest such a thing. More likely something has happened to Lachlan, besides the availability of porn on the internet. |
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Yep - it's a horrible thought - and that it still goes on in the USA today is frankly disgusting...
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Just a wild guess here...................the one who actually did it?
![]() ![]() Or perhaps it was a myopic hit man hired by Robert to shoot chestity but his eyesight e is so bad that he shot Robert instead |
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