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Old 02-10-2015, 23:23
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for me to justify taking a beale twin out the show for good the storyline had to be perfect, it had to be brought to a satisfactory end as well. what did we get? bobby not even a poper character beale killing lucy, that completely ruined it imo, I'm not the only one either all over facebook people were saying what a letdown!

then its gets much worse as he has ruined so many characters by letting so many of them find out but all agree to protect the murderer bobby beale! even lauren said nothing until it was too late! utter **** up lucy beale should still be in the show, she was young she could have went on to become a real soap bitch, or who knows there were so many possibilitys for her. the block storytelling as well its a different show every bloody week!.
I really hope he isn't planning onmaking mick a murderer! the carters were good until he decide to make dean a rapist! ruined dean as well.
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Old 02-10-2015, 23:24
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So true. second only to killing off Pat in truly awful EP decision making.
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Old 02-10-2015, 23:26
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I agree. Lucy became a great character in the run up to her death. Ian,Jane,Phil,Sharon and Lauren have all been ruined now.

Agree on the block storytelling too, it's like an anthology show with Albert Square being the constant.
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Old 02-10-2015, 23:28
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So true. second only to killing off Pat in truly awful EP decision making.
I thought at the start he was on to something special, but he's lot the fecking plot! btw I read he'd released spoilers about Christmas can someone link me up please?
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Old 02-10-2015, 23:32
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Totally love the Lucy storyline and DTC did the right thing in my view. It has definitely paid off, and undoubtedly it was risk, but it's been engaging, infuriating, sad and utterly hilarious in parts, all of which are good signs of decent story telling. Thanks
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Old 02-10-2015, 23:36
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I agree. Lucy became a great character in the run up to her death. Ian,Jane,Phil,Sharon and Lauren have all been ruined now.

Agree on the block storytelling too, it's like an anthology show with Albert Square being the constant.
he's sacrificed so many characters for this utter rubbish, he must have felt a right dick when ben hardy quit, even cindys gone, he's decimated the beales, killing off a young character coming onto her own, ruined the carters who I really enjoyed at the start! I was excited when I heard dean was returning, but turning him into a rapist completely ruined his character! I'm not even bothered about the cathy storyline, we all know she'll protect bobby as well. hes going to turn mick into a murderer as well I'm pretty sure of it is he secretly trying to destroy the show?
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Old 02-10-2015, 23:37
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So true. second only to killing off Pat in truly awful EP decision making.
yeh I agree, lucy and Kathy scenes could have been good eh? shocking decision.
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Old 02-10-2015, 23:49
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Totally agree OP, what a load of rubbish.
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Old 02-10-2015, 23:55
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I think Lucy had so much potential i think they killed her off too soon
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Old 03-10-2015, 00:03
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I think Lucy had so much potential i think they killed her off too soon
yeh am glad more people on here are coming round too this, dtc has messed up here, the killing of lucy in a few yers time will be looked up on as a terrible decision. its not quite as bad as pat but its close, hetti Bywater seemed commited, and even agreed to come back even after dtc put her out of a job! she should have told him to stick it.
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Old 03-10-2015, 00:14
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I think Lucy had so much potential i think they killed her off too soon
Definitely agree. I really started to warm to her and connect with her in the weeks leading up to her death. She became extremely relatable and I personally started to feel really sorry for her and wanted to see more of her character. I understand this was obviously done on purpose to make her death more shocking but she had such potential to be a great character that could have also been a long running cast member. I do wonder if DTC regrets the decision now Ben Hardy has left too, it just feels like a waste to make a big deal of killing one of Ian's twins then the other one leaves anyway, with the only chance of return in the near future being a recast.
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Old 03-10-2015, 00:18
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I think all this frustration at how certain aspects of the storyline have went only suggests that this storyline has been a success, whether its good feedback or bad people are talking about it

I really don't think it's fair to say that killing of Lucy was a mistake, just because she was beale didn't mean she was a legendary character like Pat, Kathy, Cindy Sr. etc...



I for one am enjoying it overall, but there are certain aspects to it that has been frustrating to me too, the storyline isn't perfect but there's no such thing as a perfect storyline there never has been and there never will be
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Old 03-10-2015, 00:20
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I think all this frustration at how certain aspects of the storyline have went only suggests that this storyline has been a success, whether its good feedback or bad people are talking about it

I really don't think it's fair to say that killing of Lucy was a mistake, just because she was beale didn't mean she was a legendary character like Pat, Kathy, Cindy Sr. etc...



I for one am enjoying it overall, but there are certain aspects to it that has been frustrating to me too, the storyline isn't perfect but there's no such thing as a perfect storyline there never has been and there never will be
The first half of the storyline was fantastic but the second half is terrible. I wouldn't say negative feedback is a sign of success, it shows people still care about Eastenders enough to hate when it screws up but it's turning into a failure.
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Old 03-10-2015, 00:24
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I am so fed up of this story now i wish bobby would just go postal and kill everyone on the whole square.
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Old 03-10-2015, 00:29
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As I've written elsewhere on the forum, the who killed Lucy storyline was actually a really good idea and the build up to her death and then the subsequent build up to the reveal were fantastic. As someone who had actually stopped watching eastenders, I don't mind admitting that the storyline drew me back in.

However, the reveal of the killer as Bobby Beale was one of the biggest let downs in soap history. Here was all this build up and tension and the killer was a kid in his pyjamas with a music box. It was a total waste. as viewers we might have felt less cheated if Bobby had featured a bit more in the show or if it was a character that we actually had some rapport with. but even worse than that was the ridiculous pantomime that was to follow with Ian accepting and forgiving in less than half an hour the fact Jane had put his daughter in the boot and dumped her on the common. Then the farce of Jane and Ian coercing people to go along with their lie at the expense of reason, sanity, truth and clear judgement. That so many people would be willing to lie to cover up for bobby is just stupid. Whilst I don't agree with Ian and Jane's actions you can understand what the writers were trying to do with them, but for everyone else - Cindy, Liam, Sharon, Lauren, Peter and even Phil - it just tarnishes their character with no good reason in the name of sensationalism. For me, I think they shouldn't have done the big killer reveal, they should have proceeded to have max go to trial and be found guilty and then we'd have had the element of whether or not we should feel sorry for him as we wouldn't have known if he was guilty or not. If they had kept jake wood's return a secret we could have even been led to believe that he'd really left the show. Imagine the Explosions then when it's found out bobby was the killer and max was innocent? We'd be right there with the residents of Albert Square then, telling from the shock of the injustice of it all!
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Old 03-10-2015, 00:39
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don't worry folks this storyline will conclude in november ...

... 2028. bobby is in his 30's and confesses to ...

... lucy, who returned to the square in 2027 after faking her own death back in 2015 to escape all the drug and family woes, but then ...

... bobby confesses to lucy he's not really bobby, he's ...

... tiffany mitchell, or was. tiffany faked her own death in 1998 to get away from all her family woes, realised she was a man trapped in a woman's body so underwent gender reassignment. the only person tiffany (now timothy) felt they could trust with this secret when they returned to the square was (the real) bobby ... but bobby threatened to tell ...

...peggy mitchell who had returned to the square so tiffany, oops sorry timothy had to kill (the real) bobby to shut him up. timothy (previously tiffany) then had plastic surgery to look like bobby and, as a final twist of the knife to the dead (real) bobby he decided to confess to lucy but immediately after the confession he feels a wave of guilt wash over him for landing the (real but dead) bobby in it so confesses to being timothy (previously tiffany) but then ...

... lucy confesses she's not really lucy, she's ...

... den watts, who faked his death (again) in 2005 to get away from all his family woes, but then ...

okay, i'll stop
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Old 03-10-2015, 00:40
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Definitely agree. I really started to warm to her and connect with her in the weeks leading up to her death. She became extremely relatable and I personally started to feel really sorry for her and wanted to see more of her character. I understand this was obviously done on purpose to make her death more shocking but she had such potential to be a great character that could have also been a long running cast member. I do wonder if DTC regrets the decision now Ben Hardy has left too, it just feels like a waste to make a big deal of killing one of Ian's twins then the other one leaves anyway, with the only chance of return in the near future being a recast.
totally agree, she was proving she was not such a bad actress after all, lucy beale should have been a mainstay of the show, a future stalwart, to kill her off before giving her some real time to grow was just wrong.
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Old 03-10-2015, 00:44
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As I've written elsewhere on the forum, the who killed Lucy storyline was actually a really good idea and the build up to her death and then the subsequent build up to the reveal were fantastic. As someone who had actually stopped watching eastenders, I don't mind admitting that the storyline drew me back in.

However, the reveal of the killer as Bobby Beale was one of the biggest let downs in soap history. Here was all this build up and tension and the killer was a kid in his pyjamas with a music box. It was a total waste. as viewers we might have felt less cheated if Bobby had featured a bit more in the show or if it was a character that we actually had some rapport with. but even worse than that was the ridiculous pantomime that was to follow with Ian accepting and forgiving in less than half an hour the fact Jane had put his daughter in the boot and dumped her on the common. Then the farce of Jane and Ian coercing people to go along with their lie at the expense of reason, sanity, truth and clear judgement. That so many people would be willing to lie to cover up for bobby is just stupid. Whilst I don't agree with Ian and Jane's actions you can understand what the writers were trying to do with them, but for everyone else - Cindy, Liam, Sharon, Lauren, Peter and even Phil - it just tarnishes their character with no good reason in the name of sensationalism. For me, I think they shouldn't have done the big killer reveal, they should have proceeded to have max go to trial and be found guilty and then we'd have had the element of whether or not we should feel sorry for him as we wouldn't have known if he was guilty or not. If they had kept jake wood's return a secret we could have even been led to believe that he'd really left the show. Imagine the Explosions then when it's found out bobby was the killer and max was innocent? We'd be right there with the residents of Albert Square then, telling from the shock of the injustice of it all!
it was such a joke I thought surely there taking the piss. my family were gripped but at the reveal we all just burst out laughing it was ****ing abysmal. both beale twins gone good work dtc, and axing lola as well that was really fair on her.
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Old 03-10-2015, 01:12
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I had no problem with them killing off Lucy, i have never really been a big fan of the character anyway, but i hate the direction the story has taken.

A fair few characters have been damaged by this storyline now and it's become so boring with how long it has gone on for.
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