EE 4G+ question

justjax · 03-10-2015, 11:39

I've just upgraded by EE package and I now have 4G+. According to the postcode checker I should have 4G+ coverage in my area (Central/South London) but phone just says 4G in the top corner of the phone (iPhone 6), should it say 4G+ 4G LTE etc? Its entirely possible when I head in shortly I'll change (seems to swap between 3G and 4G at home) but just wanted to know what I should be looking out for to confirm I'm on 4G+?

jcm193 · 03-10-2015, 11:57

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Originally Posted by justjax

I've just upgraded by EE package and I now have 4G+. According to the postcode checker I should have 4G+ coverage in my area (Central/South London) but phone just says 4G in the top corner of the phone (iPhone 6), should it say 4G+ 4G LTE etc? Its entirely possible when I head in shortly I'll change (seems to swap between 3G and 4G at home) but just wanted to know what I should be looking out for to confirm I'm on 4G+?

Ive got an iphone 6+ ive seen download speeds as high as 90mbps here in South Devon according to ee`s website this is also the maximum download speed you can expect on with 4g+ http://ee.co.uk/ee-and-me/network/4gee/4gplus.

Looking at the coverage checker im in a double speed 4g area im not sure what the difference is between 4g double speed and 4G+ coverage.

DevonBloke · 03-10-2015, 12:09

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Originally Posted by justjax

I've just upgraded by EE package and I now have 4G+. According to the postcode checker I should have 4G+ coverage in my area (Central/South London) but phone just says 4G in the top corner of the phone (iPhone 6), should it say 4G+ 4G LTE etc? Its entirely possible when I head in shortly I'll change (seems to swap between 3G and 4G at home) but just wanted to know what I should be looking out for to confirm I'm on 4G+?

Only certain phones can do 4G+. The iPhone 6 can't I'm afraid.
You need the iPhone 6s.
Your handset needs to be able to do carrier aggregation. This is where the phone can connect to 20Mhz of 1800 and 20Mhz of 2600 simultaneously to increase the data rate.
4G+ phones here http://shop.ee.co.uk/mobile-phones/p...Speed%3A4G%2B& (make sure the 4G+ box is ticked on the left hand side).

Also I suspect the iPhone 6s will only show 4G regardless of speed.
Apple like to keep things simple so it will almost certainly work the same as 3G i.e just showing "3G" rather than H or H+ etc.

Field test mode will probably show you if it's 4G+ though.

DevonBloke · 03-10-2015, 12:12

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Originally Posted by jcm193

Ive got an iphone 6+ ive seen download speeds as high as 90mbps here in South Devon according to ee`s website this is also the maximum download speed you can expect on with 4g+ http://ee.co.uk/ee-and-me/network/4gee/4gplus.

Looking at the coverage checker im in a double speed 4g area im not sure what the difference is between 4g double speed and 4G+ coverage.

Yeah I got 133 meg at one point on double speed but I believe it's now capped at 100.
Double speed means they are using the full 20Mhz carrier. They started our way back in 2012 only using a 10Mhz (single speed) carrier but they at that time most handsets could only do that anyway!

jcm193 · 03-10-2015, 12:15

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Originally Posted by DevonBloke

Only certain phones can do 4G+. The iPhone 6 can't I'm afraid.
You need the iPhone 6s.
Your handset needs to be able to do carrier aggregation. This is where the phone can connect to 20Mhz of 1800 and 20Mhz of 2600 simultaneously to increase the data rate.
4G+ phones here http://shop.ee.co.uk/mobile-phones/p...Speed%3A4G%2B& (make sure the 4G+ box is ticked on the left hand side).

Also I suspect the iPhone 6s will only show 4G regardless of speed.
Apple like to keep things simple so it will almost certainly work the same as 3G i.e just showing "3G" rather than H or H+ etc.

According to various sources the iphone 6 plus is capable of LTE Advanced/4g+ of sought` s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...Advanced#Apple

but I really would not worry about it if 4g+ maximum is 90mbps and the iphone 6 is capable of 90mbps on 4g double speed i dont see any benefit of being able to utilise the 4g+ network

justjax · 03-10-2015, 12:31

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Originally Posted by DevonBloke

Only certain phones can do 4G+. The iPhone 6 can't I'm afraid.
You need the iPhone 6s.
Your handset needs to be able to do carrier aggregation. This is where the phone can connect to 20Mhz of 1800 and 20Mhz of 2600 simultaneously to increase the data rate.
4G+ phones here http://shop.ee.co.uk/mobile-phones/p...Speed%3A4G%2B& (make sure the 4G+ box is ticked on the left hand side).

Also I suspect the iPhone 6s will only show 4G regardless of speed.
Apple like to keep things simple so it will almost certainly work the same as 3G i.e just showing "3G" rather than H or H+ etc.

Field test mode will probably show you if it's 4G+ though.

Are you sure? According the EE on the page about 4G+ it links to compatible 4G+ handsets and on that page is the 6 and the 5C.

DevonBloke · 03-10-2015, 12:55

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Originally Posted by justjax

Are you sure? According the EE on the page about 4G+ it links to compatible 4G+ handsets and on that page is the 6 and the 5C.

Yeah I went there and thought that was a bit weird. Click the link I gave above.
It show just the 4G+ phones and no iPhone 6 to be seen.
Quite simply the iPhone 6 has a Cat 4 LTE modem. This can only do 1 or 2 layers in a single frequency so 2x10Mhz = 20Mhz at say, 1800 Mhz.

The 6s and 6s+ have a Cat 6 LTE modem which is considered to be proper LTE Advanced.
This modem can do 2 or 4 layers in different frequencies and aggregate them together, so 20Mhz 1800 + 20Mhz 2600.

d123 · 03-10-2015, 13:18

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Originally Posted by justjax

Are you sure? According the EE on the page about 4G+ it links to compatible 4G+ handsets and on that page is the 6 and the 5C.

That page has an error, when you click the link to go through to 4G+ handsets it actually goes to a list of 4G handsets, check the left side of the page, it's showing as 4G and 4G+ handsets showing.

DevonBloke · 03-10-2015, 13:21

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Originally Posted by jcm193

According to various sources the iphone 6 plus is capable of LTE Advanced/4g+ of sought` s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...Advanced#Apple

but I really would not worry about it if 4g+ maximum is 90mbps and the iphone 6 is capable of 90mbps on 4g double speed i dont see any benefit of being able to utilise the 4g+ network

Yeah, bit of a grey area which is now why it's generally considered that only handsets that can combine 2 or more separate frequencies (eg. Cat 6 and above (iPhone 6s) can be called LTE Advanced.

What you are referring to is Cat 4 (iPhone 6).

If a network has 2 lots of 10Mhz that aren't contiguous a cat 4 device can aggregate them together to get 20Mhz. This isn't really LTE Advanced though.

FmBandScan · 03-10-2015, 14:51

I'm in Doncaster and seeing 4G+ on my s6, this is with the 100gb promo sims

justjax · 03-10-2015, 19:44

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Originally Posted by FmBandScan

I'm in Doncaster and seeing 4G+ on my s6, this is with the 100gb promo sims

Okay great, so can I ask what speeds you've managed to get? I was getting around 20 Mbps before on my standard 4G contract and after the upgrade I still seem to be getting the same, but saying that, my signal does still say 4G . How do I know if I'm on 4G+, does it actually say 4G+ in the top left hand corner of the handset?

d123 · 03-10-2015, 20:15

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Originally Posted by justjax

Okay great, so can I ask what speeds you've managed to get? I was getting around 20 Mbps before on my standard 4G contract and after the upgrade I still seem to be getting the same, but saying that, my signal does still say 4G . How do I know if I'm on 4G+, does it actually say 4G+ in the top left hand corner of the handset?

The iPhone 6 doesn't do 4G+ so you won't see any difference even if you were in a 4G+ area.

Quote:

EE switches on its 150Mbps LTE-A network in London - but iPhone 6 isn't supported

The UK's biggest mobile operator, EE, has announced that it has switched-on its LTE-Advanced network which will offer download speeds of up to 150Mbps. To begin with, it will only be available in central London but the service will expand outwards to cover greater London and "the UK's busiest cities" by the end of 2015.

Devices such as the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 support this new modem, but users of the new iPhone 6 and 6 Plus feature Category 4.

http://www.telecomstechnews.com/news...snt-supported/

Quote:

EE 4G in London gets a speed boost, but not on iPhone

The alliterative operator's "4G+" tech is LTE Advanced, which the network claims offers real-world speeds of up to 90Mbps.

The new mobile data boost -- which EE is calling "4G+" and claims will offer real-world speeds of up to 90Mbps -- has been achieved by combining 20MHz slices of bandwidth from the network's 1,800MHz and 2.6GHz bands.

It's only available in central London for now, specifically Shoreditch, Old Street, Southbank, Soho, Westminster and Kensington, but will spread across the capital and to other major UK cities next year, EE says. You'll also need to be on one of EE's higher-speed 4GEE Extra plans, or a corporate 4GEE plan.

The bad news is that not many phones are compatible with the LTE-Advanced tech. Indeed, EE says it's only currently flogging two compatible mobiles, the Samsung Galaxy Alpha and Galaxy Note 4.
That means owners of all the other 4G phones, including the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus, will be stuck on boring old normal 4G.

http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/ee-4g-in...not-on-iphone/

FmBandScan · 03-10-2015, 20:22

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Originally Posted by justjax

Okay great, so can I ask what speeds you've managed to get? I was getting around 20 Mbps before on my standard 4G contract and after the upgrade I still seem to be getting the same, but saying that, my signal does still say 4G . How do I know if I'm on 4G+, does it actually say 4G+ in the top left hand corner of the handset?

Was getting around 50mbs on 4G+ but only 20 on 4G so a bit of a difference there, probably more noticeable in a less busy area

Denco1 · 03-10-2015, 20:36

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Originally Posted by justjax

How do I know if I'm on 4G+, does it actually say 4G+ in the top left hand corner of the handset?

Even if the iPhone 6 didn't support 4G+ which it doesn't, iPhones don't display 4G+ they just show 4G unlike some other phones.

I suspect you may be confused between double speed and 4G+ though, as the coverage checker doesn't actually tell you if you are in a 4G+ area, just whether you can receive double speed or single speed.

DevonBloke · 03-10-2015, 20:49

No one took any notice of my posts.
That's what I bloody said.
iPhone 6 doesn't do 4G+
iPhone 6s, 7 8 or 9 won't show 4G+ or 5G+ or 6G fecking plus!
iPhone just shows 3G, 4G, 5G, 6G etc......
Period!!!
Do I sound annoyed??

Synthetic42 · 03-10-2015, 21:00

48/20 on LTE+ near St James' today (rugby world cup) on my S6, pretty impressive since there must have been so many people using the same mast at at the time.

Denco1 · 03-10-2015, 21:23

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Originally Posted by DevonBloke

No one took any notice of my posts.
That's what I bloody said.
iPhone 6 doesn't do 4G+
iPhone 6s, 7 8 or 9 won't show 4G+ or 5G+ or 6G fecking plus!
iPhone just shows 3G, 4G, 5G, 6G etc......
Period!!!
Do I sound annoyed??

Hahaha, just a tad

You trying to start wild Saturdays in addition to Fridays and Thursdays now

Out of interest what can iPhones currently display on different carriers, G/E/3G/4G/LTE, am I missing any here?

Aye Up · 03-10-2015, 21:26

How many phones are Cat 6/4G+ on the market now?

Denco1 · 03-10-2015, 21:30

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Originally Posted by Aye Up

How many phones are Cat 6/4G+ on the market now?

About 10 or so sold by EE, a few more if you count those sold sim free, or cat 9 phones in China.

lightspeed2398 · 03-10-2015, 21:30

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Originally Posted by Denco1

Hahaha, just a tad

You trying to start wild Saturdays in addition to Fridays and Thursdays now

Out of interest what can iPhones currently display on different carriers, G/E/3G/4G/LTE, am I missing any here?

1x for CDMA?

Aye Up · 03-10-2015, 21:32

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Originally Posted by Denco1

About 10 or so sold by EE, a few more if you count those sold sim free, or cat 9 phones in China.

Cat 9?

I didn't even think we had Cat 6 widespread yet? In fact I bet most don't even know the difference anyway

Denco1 · 03-10-2015, 21:34

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Originally Posted by lightspeed2398

1x for CDMA?

Oh yes had forgotten that one, thanks.

Denco1 · 03-10-2015, 21:39

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Originally Posted by Aye Up

Cat 9?

I didn't even think we had Cat 6 widespread yet? In fact I bet most don't even know the difference anyway

It isn't really, well not in the UK anyway, some European/Asian networks are making a decent start on it.
I think China mobile might be doing cat 9 TDD to achieve 330mbps, and China Unicom/Telecom doing a mix of TDD/FDD to achieve a max of 450mbps although they seem to be doing 1800+2600 or 850 and not all three.

DevonBloke · 03-10-2015, 21:39

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Originally Posted by Denco1

Hahaha, just a tad

You trying to start wild Saturdays in addition to Fridays and Thursdays now

Out of interest what can iPhones currently display on different carriers, G/E/3G/4G/LTE, am I missing any here?

Thank you. Some recognition at last. Though I may as well have just crawled under a stone and shut up!!!

I think it goes gprs => EDGE => 3G => 4G and that's about it.
Other handsets may well display differently.
Yes, I work bloody hard, I'm divorced, life is pretty tough. I think a certain level of humour on a Friday or Saturday night wouldn't go amiss.

But hey, that's just me!!

jchamier · 03-10-2015, 21:41

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Originally Posted by lightspeed2398

1x for CDMA?

No longer ; iPhones show GPRS for 1xRTT on CDMA networks. The 4G and LTE logos are operator selectable in the carrier profile.

03-10-2015, 11:39	#1
justjax Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 911	EE 4G+ question I've just upgraded by EE package and I now have 4G+. According to the postcode checker I should have 4G+ coverage in my area (Central/South London) but phone just says 4G in the top corner of the phone (iPhone 6), should it say 4G+ 4G LTE etc? Its entirely possible when I head in shortly I'll change (seems to swap between 3G and 4G at home) but just wanted to know what I should be looking out for to confirm I'm on 4G+?

03-10-2015, 11:57	#2
jcm193 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,086	Quote: Originally Posted by justjax I've just upgraded by EE package and I now have 4G+. According to the postcode checker I should have 4G+ coverage in my area (Central/South London) but phone just says 4G in the top corner of the phone (iPhone 6), should it say 4G+ 4G LTE etc? Its entirely possible when I head in shortly I'll change (seems to swap between 3G and 4G at home) but just wanted to know what I should be looking out for to confirm I'm on 4G+? Ive got an iphone 6+ ive seen download speeds as high as 90mbps here in South Devon according to ee`s website this is also the maximum download speed you can expect on with 4g+ http://ee.co.uk/ee-and-me/network/4gee/4gplus. Looking at the coverage checker im in a double speed 4g area im not sure what the difference is between 4g double speed and 4G+ coverage.

03-10-2015, 12:09	#3
DevonBloke Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Totnes, Devon Posts: 6,694	Quote: Originally Posted by justjax I've just upgraded by EE package and I now have 4G+. According to the postcode checker I should have 4G+ coverage in my area (Central/South London) but phone just says 4G in the top corner of the phone (iPhone 6), should it say 4G+ 4G LTE etc? Its entirely possible when I head in shortly I'll change (seems to swap between 3G and 4G at home) but just wanted to know what I should be looking out for to confirm I'm on 4G+? Only certain phones can do 4G+. The iPhone 6 can't I'm afraid. You need the iPhone 6s. Your handset needs to be able to do carrier aggregation. This is where the phone can connect to 20Mhz of 1800 and 20Mhz of 2600 simultaneously to increase the data rate. 4G+ phones here http://shop.ee.co.uk/mobile-phones/p...Speed%3A4G%2B& (make sure the 4G+ box is ticked on the left hand side). Also I suspect the iPhone 6s will only show 4G regardless of speed. Apple like to keep things simple so it will almost certainly work the same as 3G i.e just showing "3G" rather than H or H+ etc. Field test mode will probably show you if it's 4G+ though.

03-10-2015, 12:12	#4
DevonBloke Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Totnes, Devon Posts: 6,694	Quote: Originally Posted by jcm193 Ive got an iphone 6+ ive seen download speeds as high as 90mbps here in South Devon according to ee`s website this is also the maximum download speed you can expect on with 4g+ http://ee.co.uk/ee-and-me/network/4gee/4gplus. Looking at the coverage checker im in a double speed 4g area im not sure what the difference is between 4g double speed and 4G+ coverage. Yeah I got 133 meg at one point on double speed but I believe it's now capped at 100. Double speed means they are using the full 20Mhz carrier. They started our way back in 2012 only using a 10Mhz (single speed) carrier but they at that time most handsets could only do that anyway!

03-10-2015, 12:15	#5
jcm193 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,086	Quote: Originally Posted by DevonBloke Only certain phones can do 4G+. The iPhone 6 can't I'm afraid. You need the iPhone 6s. Your handset needs to be able to do carrier aggregation. This is where the phone can connect to 20Mhz of 1800 and 20Mhz of 2600 simultaneously to increase the data rate. 4G+ phones here http://shop.ee.co.uk/mobile-phones/p...Speed%3A4G%2B& (make sure the 4G+ box is ticked on the left hand side). Also I suspect the iPhone 6s will only show 4G regardless of speed. Apple like to keep things simple so it will almost certainly work the same as 3G i.e just showing "3G" rather than H or H+ etc. According to various sources the iphone 6 plus is capable of LTE Advanced/4g+ of sought` s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...Advanced#Apple but I really would not worry about it if 4g+ maximum is 90mbps and the iphone 6 is capable of 90mbps on 4g double speed i dont see any benefit of being able to utilise the 4g+ network

03-10-2015, 12:31	#6
justjax Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 911	Quote: Originally Posted by DevonBloke Only certain phones can do 4G+. The iPhone 6 can't I'm afraid. You need the iPhone 6s. Your handset needs to be able to do carrier aggregation. This is where the phone can connect to 20Mhz of 1800 and 20Mhz of 2600 simultaneously to increase the data rate. 4G+ phones here http://shop.ee.co.uk/mobile-phones/p...Speed%3A4G%2B& (make sure the 4G+ box is ticked on the left hand side). Also I suspect the iPhone 6s will only show 4G regardless of speed. Apple like to keep things simple so it will almost certainly work the same as 3G i.e just showing "3G" rather than H or H+ etc. Field test mode will probably show you if it's 4G+ though. Are you sure? According the EE on the page about 4G+ it links to compatible 4G+ handsets and on that page is the 6 and the 5C.

03-10-2015, 12:55	#7
DevonBloke Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Totnes, Devon Posts: 6,694	Quote: Originally Posted by justjax Are you sure? According the EE on the page about 4G+ it links to compatible 4G+ handsets and on that page is the 6 and the 5C. Yeah I went there and thought that was a bit weird. Click the link I gave above. It show just the 4G+ phones and no iPhone 6 to be seen. Quite simply the iPhone 6 has a Cat 4 LTE modem. This can only do 1 or 2 layers in a single frequency so 2x10Mhz = 20Mhz at say, 1800 Mhz. The 6s and 6s+ have a Cat 6 LTE modem which is considered to be proper LTE Advanced. This modem can do 2 or 4 layers in different frequencies and aggregate them together, so 20Mhz 1800 + 20Mhz 2600.

03-10-2015, 13:18	#8
d123 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,993	Quote: Originally Posted by justjax Are you sure? According the EE on the page about 4G+ it links to compatible 4G+ handsets and on that page is the 6 and the 5C. That page has an error, when you click the link to go through to 4G+ handsets it actually goes to a list of 4G handsets, check the left side of the page, it's showing as 4G and 4G+ handsets showing.

03-10-2015, 13:21	#9
DevonBloke Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Totnes, Devon Posts: 6,694	Quote: Originally Posted by jcm193 According to various sources the iphone 6 plus is capable of LTE Advanced/4g+ of sought` s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...Advanced#Apple but I really would not worry about it if 4g+ maximum is 90mbps and the iphone 6 is capable of 90mbps on 4g double speed i dont see any benefit of being able to utilise the 4g+ network Yeah, bit of a grey area which is now why it's generally considered that only handsets that can combine 2 or more separate frequencies (eg. Cat 6 and above (iPhone 6s) can be called LTE Advanced. What you are referring to is Cat 4 (iPhone 6). If a network has 2 lots of 10Mhz that aren't contiguous a cat 4 device can aggregate them together to get 20Mhz. This isn't really LTE Advanced though.

03-10-2015, 14:51	#10
FmBandScan Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Grimsby, United Kingdom Posts: 848	I'm in Doncaster and seeing 4G+ on my s6, this is with the 100gb promo sims

03-10-2015, 19:44	#11
justjax Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 911	Quote: Originally Posted by FmBandScan I'm in Doncaster and seeing 4G+ on my s6, this is with the 100gb promo sims Okay great, so can I ask what speeds you've managed to get? I was getting around 20 Mbps before on my standard 4G contract and after the upgrade I still seem to be getting the same, but saying that, my signal does still say 4G . How do I know if I'm on 4G+, does it actually say 4G+ in the top left hand corner of the handset?

03-10-2015, 20:15	#12
d123 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,993	Quote: Originally Posted by justjax Okay great, so can I ask what speeds you've managed to get? I was getting around 20 Mbps before on my standard 4G contract and after the upgrade I still seem to be getting the same, but saying that, my signal does still say 4G . How do I know if I'm on 4G+, does it actually say 4G+ in the top left hand corner of the handset? The iPhone 6 doesn't do 4G+ so you won't see any difference even if you were in a 4G+ area. Quote: EE switches on its 150Mbps LTE-A network in London - but iPhone 6 isn't supported The UK's biggest mobile operator, EE, has announced that it has switched-on its LTE-Advanced network which will offer download speeds of up to 150Mbps. To begin with, it will only be available in central London but the service will expand outwards to cover greater London and "the UK's busiest cities" by the end of 2015. Devices such as the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 support this new modem, but users of the new iPhone 6 and 6 Plus feature Category 4. http://www.telecomstechnews.com/news...snt-supported/ Quote: EE 4G in London gets a speed boost, but not on iPhone The alliterative operator's "4G+" tech is LTE Advanced, which the network claims offers real-world speeds of up to 90Mbps. The new mobile data boost -- which EE is calling "4G+" and claims will offer real-world speeds of up to 90Mbps -- has been achieved by combining 20MHz slices of bandwidth from the network's 1,800MHz and 2.6GHz bands. It's only available in central London for now, specifically Shoreditch, Old Street, Southbank, Soho, Westminster and Kensington, but will spread across the capital and to other major UK cities next year, EE says. You'll also need to be on one of EE's higher-speed 4GEE Extra plans, or a corporate 4GEE plan. The bad news is that not many phones are compatible with the LTE-Advanced tech. Indeed, EE says it's only currently flogging two compatible mobiles, the Samsung Galaxy Alpha and Galaxy Note 4. That means owners of all the other 4G phones, including the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus, will be stuck on boring old normal 4G. http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/ee-4g-in...not-on-iphone/

03-10-2015, 20:22	#13
FmBandScan Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Grimsby, United Kingdom Posts: 848	Quote: Originally Posted by justjax Okay great, so can I ask what speeds you've managed to get? I was getting around 20 Mbps before on my standard 4G contract and after the upgrade I still seem to be getting the same, but saying that, my signal does still say 4G . How do I know if I'm on 4G+, does it actually say 4G+ in the top left hand corner of the handset? Was getting around 50mbs on 4G+ but only 20 on 4G so a bit of a difference there, probably more noticeable in a less busy area

03-10-2015, 20:36	#14
Denco1 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 983	Quote: Originally Posted by justjax How do I know if I'm on 4G+, does it actually say 4G+ in the top left hand corner of the handset? Even if the iPhone 6 didn't support 4G+ which it doesn't, iPhones don't display 4G+ they just show 4G unlike some other phones. I suspect you may be confused between double speed and 4G+ though, as the coverage checker doesn't actually tell you if you are in a 4G+ area, just whether you can receive double speed or single speed.

03-10-2015, 20:49	#15
DevonBloke Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Totnes, Devon Posts: 6,694	No one took any notice of my posts. That's what I bloody said. iPhone 6 doesn't do 4G+ iPhone 6s, 7 8 or 9 won't show 4G+ or 5G+ or 6G fecking plus! iPhone just shows 3G, 4G, 5G, 6G etc...... Period!!! Do I sound annoyed??

03-10-2015, 21:00	#16
Synthetic42 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Newcastle Posts: 1,510	48/20 on LTE+ near St James' today (rugby world cup) on my S6, pretty impressive since there must have been so many people using the same mast at at the time.

03-10-2015, 21:23	#17
Denco1 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 983	Quote: Originally Posted by DevonBloke No one took any notice of my posts. That's what I bloody said. iPhone 6 doesn't do 4G+ iPhone 6s, 7 8 or 9 won't show 4G+ or 5G+ or 6G fecking plus! iPhone just shows 3G, 4G, 5G, 6G etc...... Period!!! Do I sound annoyed?? Hahaha, just a tad You trying to start wild Saturdays in addition to Fridays and Thursdays now Out of interest what can iPhones currently display on different carriers, G/E/3G/4G/LTE, am I missing any here?

03-10-2015, 21:26	#18
Aye Up Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: North West Posts: 4,885	How many phones are Cat 6/4G+ on the market now?

03-10-2015, 21:30	#19
Denco1 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 983	Quote: Originally Posted by Aye Up How many phones are Cat 6/4G+ on the market now? About 10 or so sold by EE, a few more if you count those sold sim free, or cat 9 phones in China.

03-10-2015, 21:30	#20
lightspeed2398 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 1,325	Quote: Originally Posted by Denco1 Hahaha, just a tad You trying to start wild Saturdays in addition to Fridays and Thursdays now Out of interest what can iPhones currently display on different carriers, G/E/3G/4G/LTE, am I missing any here? 1x for CDMA?

03-10-2015, 21:32	#21
Aye Up Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: North West Posts: 4,885	Quote: Originally Posted by Denco1 About 10 or so sold by EE, a few more if you count those sold sim free, or cat 9 phones in China. Cat 9? I didn't even think we had Cat 6 widespread yet? In fact I bet most don't even know the difference anyway

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03-10-2015, 21:34	#22
Denco1 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 983	Quote: Originally Posted by lightspeed2398 1x for CDMA? Oh yes had forgotten that one, thanks.

03-10-2015, 21:39	#23
Denco1 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 983	Quote: Originally Posted by Aye Up Cat 9? I didn't even think we had Cat 6 widespread yet? In fact I bet most don't even know the difference anyway It isn't really, well not in the UK anyway, some European/Asian networks are making a decent start on it. I think China mobile might be doing cat 9 TDD to achieve 330mbps, and China Unicom/Telecom doing a mix of TDD/FDD to achieve a max of 450mbps although they seem to be doing 1800+2600 or 850 and not all three.

03-10-2015, 21:41	#25
jchamier Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: This forum Posts: 3,392	Quote: Originally Posted by lightspeed2398 1x for CDMA? No longer ; iPhones show GPRS for 1xRTT on CDMA networks. The 4G and LTE logos are operator selectable in the carrier profile.