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Is Peter getting a pimp slot again?
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biscuitfactory
05-10-2015
Yes - after two dances.
I don't get what point you're making by keep asking that

He's done two dances - same as everybody else. They were not 'top of the leaderboard' quality dances. If they'd been performed by anyone other than Peter Andre they'd have ended up where they belonged; mid table.
My theory is that Andre is perceived by the producers to be the 'youth pulling' contestant. Their best bet for grabbing viewers from their ITV rival. So they need to keep him in as long as possible and, to do this they are overmarking him to keep him high on the leaderboard and safe from the public vote.
I just find it insulting to viewers' intelligence that they expect us to believe that the judges actually think his dancing is the best. Craig, especially, loses all integrity for me by giving a non-cha cha cha and a graceless clumpy quickstep such high marks.
marinamau
05-10-2015
Out of everyone this year, I would say that Peter Andre has slightly more name recognition than any one else in the line up. Name recognition does just mean that people inmidiatly put a face to the name, not that they are worthy of such recognition or that it is a positive association.

I believe that the producers want to run a successful show, as people have mentioned, having a good performer (and there is no doubt that he is that) last assures that the show ends on a high note even if technically he is not. He is also given two crowd pleasing dances so far, so that helps. Though one could argue that this is further proof of his preferential treatment.

Long term this does not help him, his fans will still vote for him no matter what, but it's bound to alienate more undecided than convert them in to fans.

Also, wasn't an important rugby game on Saturday clashing with the end of strictly?
The Rhydler
05-10-2015
Originally Posted by marinamau:
“Out of everyone this year, I would say that Peter Andre has slightly more name recognition than any one else in the line up. Name recognition does just mean that people inmidiatly put a face to the name, not that they are worthy of such recognition or that it is a positive association.

I believe that the producers want to run a successful show, as people have mentioned, having a good performer (and there is no doubt that he is that) last assures that the show ends on a high note even if technically he is not. He is also given two crowd pleasing dances so far, so that helps. Though one could argue that this is further proof of his preferential treatment.

Long term this does not help him, his fans will still vote for him no matter what, but it's bound to alienate more undecided than convert them in to fans.

Also, wasn't an important rugby game on Saturday clashing with the end of strictly?”

When I heard Andre was involved this year, I was disappointed in the BBC for scraping the bottom of the barrel, I'm even more appalled that they'd make him out to be the star.
katt
05-10-2015
Originally Posted by viva.espana:
“Ok, thanks for that. I don't really understand the logic behind it though.

Either he dances well or he doesn't, which will be noted whether he's first or last.”

true but because there are so many couples, going on last or second to last means the general viewer is probably more likely to remember the routine and pick up the phone to vote - esp as the lines open just after the last couples have danced

if that makes sense

does seem a little unfair that Peter closed the 1st show and was 2nd to last in the 2nd show.............

having said that its only week 2 so we shall see
viva.espana
05-10-2015
Originally Posted by marinamau:
“Out of everyone this year, I would say that Peter Andre has slightly more name recognition than any one else in the line up. Name recognition does just mean that people immediately put a face to the name, not that they are worthy of such recognition or that it is a positive association.”

In a nutshell. And very applicable in his case.
holly berry
05-10-2015
I'm beginning to wonder whether he might be this year's Jason.
viva.espana
05-10-2015
Originally Posted by katt:
“true but because there are so many couples, going on last or second to last means the general viewer is probably more likely to remember the routine and pick up the phone to vote - esp as the lines open just after the last couples have danced

if that makes sense

does seem a little unfair that Peter closed the 1st show and was 2nd to last in the 2nd show.............

having said that its only week 2 so we shall see ”

No, I do agree now, katt. I didn't really get the logic earlier but having read everyone's responses, I see now why it might be seen as giving him an unfair advantage.
biscuitfactory
05-10-2015
I see him as this year's Sophie Ellis Bextor - just as many mistakes / weaknesses as all the other contestants but these are ignored by the judges or are briefly commented on and then the mediocre dance is given ridiculously high marks.
Of course, Peter Andre has something in common with SEB - youth interest.
She, too, was the contestant brought in to pull in the X Factor audience.
IvanIV
05-10-2015
If he's so generally despised, it should not help him if he went the last during the whole SCD run.
perdiedumpling
05-10-2015
I think he's this year's Jake. All flash, no substance. Common factor? Janette, who appears to know neither what the dances should contain nor how to dance it herself. Had he been paired with Lilia or Flavia (I think they're the only two other pros short enough for him), he'd stand a chance of producing a dance that actually looks like it should.
shrinkingviolet
05-10-2015
I kinda think that some people hate him so much that they are desperate for a reason to berate him & the running order is the only thing they have to do it so far.

I think if it continues for a few weeks more, I'd maybe raise an eyebrow, but right now, it just seems like normal, get potentially good dances to open & close the show and hide the mediocre ones earlier.
sofakat
05-10-2015
Originally Posted by shrinkingviolet:
“I kinda think that some people hate him so much that they are desperate for a reason to berate him & the running order is the only thing they have to do it so far.
”

He's really not interesting enough to hate, and anyway we are not all sulking teenagers playing the 'hatah' game.

People just find him OTT and utterly fake with his puppy dog 'desperate to be loved' persona. Being married to Price did not help, neither does his continued penchant for flogging his life/kids/Pricetrauma for money. Being orange and caked in makeup 24/7 is not lovable either. The 80s is over.

Feel rather sorry for him. He does not know how to be normal. The show must always 'go on' is not a way to live. You can stop.

He is not a great dancer. Period. He's a stage school hoofer at best.

I also find it hilarious when people bang on about his ability to perform when he has been a performer for 26 years already. Yes, 26 years. He ought to be able to flog something, even if it is an over-excited cha cha with shades of Knees Up Mother Brown.
viva.espana
05-10-2015
Originally Posted by shrinkingviolet:
“I think if it continues for a few weeks more, I'd maybe raise an eyebrow, but right now, it just seems like normal, get potentially good dances to open & close the show and hide the mediocre ones earlier.”

Could be they thought that but it wasn't a good dance so if ^ that's the logic (which seems a reasonable one), he should feature somewhere in the middle next week with the 'mediocre' ones.

Unless he and Janette really raise their game, I can't see him lasting too long in there.
marinamau
05-10-2015
Originally Posted by sofakat:
“He's really not interesting enough to hate, and anyway we are not all sulking teenagers playing the 'hatah' game.

People just find him OTT and utterly fake with his puppy dog 'desperate to be loved' persona. Being married to Price did not help, neither does his continued penchant for flogging his life/kids/Pricetrauma for money. Being orange and caked in makeup 24/7 is not lovable either. The 80s is over.

Feel rather sorry for him. He does not know how to be normal. The show must always 'go on' is not a way to live. You can stop.

He is not a great dancer. Period. He's a stage school hoofer at best.

I also find it hilarious when people bang on about his ability to perform when he has been a performer for 26 years already. Yes, 26 years. He ought to be able to flog something, even if it is an over-excited cha cha with shades of Knees Up Mother Brown.”

Completely agree! The only reason I keep mentioning his good performance levels is that people realise I am not blinded by hate or dislike.
Goaty
05-10-2015
Originally Posted by sofakat:
“He's really not interesting enough to hate, and anyway we are not all sulking teenagers playing the 'hatah' game.

People just find him OTT and utterly fake with his puppy dog 'desperate to be loved' persona. Being married to Price did not help, neither does his continued penchant for flogging his life/kids/Pricetrauma for money. Being orange and caked in makeup 24/7 is not lovable either. The 80s is over.

Feel rather sorry for him. He does not know how to be normal. The show must always 'go on' is not a way to live. You can stop.

He is not a great dancer. Period. He's a stage school hoofer at best.

I also find it hilarious when people bang on about his ability to perform when he has been a performer for 26 years already. Yes, 26 years. He ought to be able to flog something, even if it is an over-excited cha cha with shades of Knees Up Mother Brown.”

I agree too
The Rhydler
05-10-2015
Originally Posted by IvanIV:
“If he's so generally despised, it should not help him if he went the last during the whole SCD run.”

Still irritating and unfair on the others.
youngthing12
05-10-2015
I don't think he is the best and he is being pushed forward as the best
by the producers and the judges 😕 His quickstep and cha cha did not
deserve the marks he received far too high 😯 Other dancers in the
competition are way better... So will be keeping an eye on the judges
scores 😀
primer
05-10-2015
i'm surprised how much people know about this person and how repetitive the complaints about him are, especially given how grown up and objective his critics are, or claim to be.

i know very little about him, so he can't be that hard to avoid
NotaTypo
05-10-2015
Originally Posted by The Rhydler:
“When I heard Andre was involved this year, I was disappointed in the BBC for scraping the bottom of the barrel, I'm even more appalled that they'd make him out to be the star.”

I reckon he's desperate to break out of the ITV2 reality ghetto and gain some BBC respectability. His management are probably hoping to groom him for the Lisa Reilly/Alison Hammond gig.
DiamondDoll
05-10-2015
The Abomination that is Andre, imho, is a nobody who got lucky.

He repulses me.

Pass the bucket.
mossy2103
05-10-2015
Originally Posted by biscuitfactory:
“Yes - after two dances.
I don't get what point you're making by keep asking that ”

Making what should be a rather obvious "law of averages" point that, only two dances/three shows in, it does seem very presumptuous to say that he's getting a pimp slot. Now if that were 5 or 6 shows in, and he was last or second to last 5 or 6 times (for example), you might have a point.
TerryM22
05-10-2015
Originally Posted by marinamau:
“Completely agree! The only reason I keep mentioning his good performance levels is that people realise I am not blinded by hate or dislike.”

Peter has an amazing performance level marinamau, all the girls at bingo are impressed.
lulu g
05-10-2015
Originally Posted by NotaTypo:
“I reckon he's desperate to break out of the ITV2 reality ghetto and gain some BBC respectability. His management are probably hoping to groom him for the Lisa Reilly/Alison Hammond gig.”

They have a gig?
TerryM22
05-10-2015
Originally Posted by lulu g:
“They have a gig? ”

Hi lulu, I thought you were someone else for a moment, I'm a big Peter and Lisa fan.
ravensborough
06-10-2015
Craig was singing Peter's praises on the radio this morning. According to the article, he has also mentioned Helen, but find it odd that he's not mentioned other exceptional dancers like Kellie, Anita and Katie.
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