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LBC General Chit-Chat (Part 31)
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gurney-slade
28-10-2015
I can't imagine any of the past or current incumbents of the chair J O'B occasionally occupies on Newsnight referring to politicians by childishly insulting nicknames. Perhaps James should try and set a precedent.
JT2060
28-10-2015
Originally Posted by connor the judg:
“JOB is still getting talked about more than any other presenter (okay, apart Farage) on this thread even though he is off all week!

I think that's a sign of a good presenter!”

Or bad.
Richard1960
28-10-2015
Originally Posted by gurney-slade:
“I can't imagine any of the past or current incumbents of the chair J O'B occasionally occupies on Newsnight referring to politicians by childishly insulting nicknames. Perhaps James should try and set a precedent.”



"Yes hello and welcome to newsnight and tonight we have a debate between two key players in the EURO debate." "Sir Stewart Rose and Fish Face Farridge"

Opps sorry producer i was in LBC mode.
Franco_Anglais
28-10-2015
Originally Posted by James30:
“Is there any day when Fanny 'self congratulatory' Allen doesn't bang on about a spike.

Anyone fancy placing that on his studio chair?”

He's extremely insecure, so needs to constantly big himself up. It's toe-curling.

What's laughably ironic is the fact that a "spike" is not a good thing when it comes to listening figures: it implies that a lot of listeners suddenly tuned in, and then suddenly switched off again after hearing a few minutes of his drivel!
Peachykeen
28-10-2015
Originally Posted by Crawley Cutie:
“It's, definitely, not political for me. I only comment on JO'B, when he tries to humiliate callers, who have a different opinion to himself.

I have never heard any of the other presenters being so insulting, on a regular basis. James uses this behaviour as part of his 'act.' He disappoints me !

As for name-calling. I have only heard James use it against Farage...I will be all ears on Sunday night
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I'm the same. Its not political at all for me and it doesn't really bother me but I don't think I've heard him say anything similar about any other politician. Not even Iain Duncan Smith and we know James really hates him too

The only other presenter who does it is Nick Abbott who has a name or soundbite for all politicians but his is a very different kind of show.

I think its the fact that James singles out Nigel Farrage that is the issue.
niceguy1966
28-10-2015
Originally Posted by Peachykeen:
“I'm the same. Its not political at all for me and it doesn't really bother me but I don't think I've heard him say anything similar about any other politician. Not even Iain Duncan Smith and we know James really hates him too

The only other presenter who does it is Nick Abbott who has a name or soundbite for all politicians but his is a very different kind of show.

I think its the fact that James singles out Nigel Farrage that is the issue.”

JoB certainly does single out UKIP and its leader for special ridicule.

From some of the comments JoB has made, I think he receives a lot of nasty tweets and emails from kippers so it might be a chicken and egg / catch 22 situation. He said something critical, got spammed and lowered his opinion of them more for his next comment, got spammed, lowered his opinion...

The JoB/Farage debate certainly didn't heal any wounds.
Radiomaniac
28-10-2015
Originally Posted by Mike Rackabit:
“Maybe a Mike Rackabit General Chit Chat Thread should be started and my monitoring activities could be discussed and my posts repeatedly endlessly there, RM? I try to keep my posts on topic and about LBC rather than about contributors to the thread. Hope you are well, RM.”

i'd definitely be a member of that thread!

I am exceptionally well, thank you, Mike, kind of you to ask and I hope you too are well.

Keep on keeping on!
Radiomaniac
28-10-2015
Originally Posted by niceguy1966:
“Because this is a forum for discussion. I read everyone's contributions, with only a very small number of exceptions.”

It wouldn't take much effort to include Mike's posts in your 'exceptions'.

I'm not trying to give orders as to who should read what, just trying to offer a solution.

I very much enjoy Mike's contributions.
Radiomaniac
28-10-2015
Originally Posted by connor the judg:
“My point was to do with the hypocrisy on this thread. ”

I don't like Fanny Allen. I no longer listen to him.

I don't like JO'B. I don't listen to him.

But if I did, it may be that I want to hear the contributions from LBC's listeners, for example.
connor the judg
28-10-2015
Originally Posted by Radiomaniac:
“I don't like Fanny Allen. I no longer listen to him.

I don't like JO'B. I don't listen to him.

But if I did, it may be that I want to hear the contributions from LBC's listeners, for example.”

Well, some people listen to presenters they don't like but then say "if you don't like what I write, don't read it". I'm not saying they shouldn't listen just that they shouldn't tell others what they shouldn't read.
niceguy1966
28-10-2015
Originally Posted by Radiomaniac:
“It wouldn't take much effort to include Mike's posts in your 'exceptions'.

I'm not trying to give orders as to who should read what, just trying to offer a solution.

I very much enjoy Mike's contributions.”

Wouldn't you enjoy them even more if he made a bigger effort to be original and not repeat himself quite as much? I know I would.
redvers36
28-10-2015
Originally Posted by FrankBT:
“What was that old internet rule about not feeding trolls? I'd let the clique saddos get on with it. It's not worth one's energy arguing with them.”

Yes good point FrankBT.
Pedro
28-10-2015
Originally Posted by Chief_Wiggum:
“I haven't heard Kate Lester's ad on LBC for a few days. Could it be that she has finally gone?!”

She seems to do 2 weeks on 1 week off. We will have to make do with "bacon and butty" man ................ aaaaaaaaaargh
James30
28-10-2015
Originally Posted by Franco_Anglais:
“He's extremely insecure, so needs to constantly big himself up. It's toe-curling.

What's laughably ironic is the fact that a "spike" is not a good thing when it comes to listening figures: it implies that a lot of listeners suddenly tuned in, and then suddenly switched off again after hearing a few minutes of his drivel!”

RAJAR figures aren't honestly proven, a few phone calls to random people who tick a box is so far behind other companies using technology to compile figures.

It's the same figures every time they get released with slight up and down movements and most stay the same anyway.

If RAJAR figures were taken electronically, then the commercial radio sector would be in panic mode and LBC would drop further down the list. But they like the cosy bubble they're in and the kids playground of commercial radio shows little sign of flexibility.
BurlyBeaR
28-10-2015
Originally Posted by James30:
“RAJAR figures aren't honestly proven, a few phone calls to random people who tick a box is so far behind other companies using technology to compile figures.

It's the same figures every time they get released with slight up and down movements and most stay the same anyway.

If RAJAR figures were taken electronically, then the commercial radio sector would be in panic mode and LBC would drop further down the list. But they like the cosy bubble they're in and the kids playground of commercial radio shows little sign of flexibility.”

It's a shame we can't use the number of inbound calls as a measure of how successful LBC presenters are. I suspect Nick "is anyone listening?" Abbott and James "hit the numbers now you WILL get through" O'Brien would be in trouble.

Nicky F doesn't even have to give out the number
BurlyBeaR
28-10-2015
Originally Posted by Radiomaniac:
“It wouldn't take much effort to include Mike's posts in your 'exceptions'.

I'm not trying to give orders as to who should read what, just trying to offer a solution.

I very much enjoy Mike's contributions.”

Me too. I think people should be able to post what they like (within the rules) without fear of being singled out/ganged up on.
MartinRosen
28-10-2015
Originally Posted by James30:
“RAJAR figures aren't honestly proven, a few phone calls to random people who tick a box is so far behind other companies using technology to compile figures.

It's the same figures every time they get released with slight up and down movements and most stay the same anyway.

If RAJAR figures were taken electronically, then the commercial radio sector would be in panic mode and LBC would drop further down the list. But they like the cosy bubble they're in and the kids playground of commercial radio shows little sign of flexibility.”

I would say most people (not including us) stay with one station most of the time. They switch their radio on, listen to what is being broadcast and later switch off, but rarely change stations unless they particularly want to hear something they have been alerted to. Therefore the audiences are going to remain similar. Obviously if a station changes its format (eg Talk Radio to Talk Sport) then there would be a significant difference.

To see an accurate result, figures should be compared annually rather than quarterly, in case there is a 'rogue' figure.

People are asked to fill in a diary of their listening over a week. It isn't done by telephone, unless it is for a quick 'dipstick' poll.

How would it be done electronically? Attach a monitoring device to every radio you have ?
niceguy1966
28-10-2015
Originally Posted by BurlyBeaR:
“Me too. I think people should be able to post what they like (within the rules) without fear of being singled out/ganged up on.”

Doesn't everyone?
niceguy1966
28-10-2015
Originally Posted by BurlyBeaR:
“It's a shame we can't use the number of inbound calls as a measure of how successful LBC presenters are. I suspect Nick "is anyone listening?" Abbott and James "hit the numbers now you WILL get through" O'Brien would be in trouble.

Nicky F doesn't even have to give out the number ”

Then you'd have "Have you received an unfair parking/speeding ticket?" and "Are there any old people listening that are feeling poorly?" phone-ins hour after hour.

Getting calls isn't the hard part, getting interesting calls is.
Gusto Brunt
28-10-2015
I do like Iain Dale, but I wish he wouldn't insult callers with 'you're disgusting' and what they have to say is 'disgusting'.

As a broadcaster he should listen and let the listeners make up their own minds who is disgusting or not..
Cayce
28-10-2015
Originally Posted by gurney-slade:
“I can't imagine any of the past or current incumbents of the chair J O'B occasionally occupies on Newsnight referring to politicians by childishly insulting nicknames. Perhaps James should try and set a precedent.”

I wish he would set a precedent. I recall J O'B saying on-air that Farage had included him in his book. He never discussed what was said but at a guess 'our' presenter's juvenile singular attacks on "Farridge" is his way of retaliating. Poor soul..
Cayce
28-10-2015
Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt:
“I do like Iain Dale, but I wish he wouldn't insult callers with 'you're disgusting' and what they have to say is 'disgusting'.

As a broadcaster he should listen and let the listeners make up their own minds who is disgusting or not..”

..... Was that when ID reacted strongly to man who while living in the Middle East had witnessed a beheading? If so, he suddenly adopted the high moral ground when the caller's remark wasn't even directly on-topic.
Hey_Ho
28-10-2015
Originally Posted by Radiomaniac:
“Seeing as JO'B used to refer to certain listeners as 'fatty fatty fat fats' and Fanny Allen still uses 'hefty hideaway girl', 'mary' and 'mentally ill' as well as numerous other insults, I think it's only fair game that they take some in return.”

Quite so, RM. Also, we are listeners posting on an insignificant and probably little read forum. The LBC presenters are professionals broadcasting to millions. Fanny is a joke, but Gobber is supposed to be a serious presenter. Can you imagine Paxman or John Humphries calling someone "Fishface" on air? No, neither can I.
Hey_Ho
28-10-2015
Originally Posted by Richard1960:
“I am not disagreeing but he also mispronounces his name on air like a schoolboy deliberately, now if JOB can dish it out live on air i am sure it might make him fair game on a forum.

JOB also has a public platform he should even if not liking the man show a little decorum.”

You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. O'Brien is a pig ignorant oik and that's all he'll ever be.
Mike Rackabit
28-10-2015
Originally Posted by Hey_Ho:
“Quite so, RM. Also, we are listeners posting on an insignificant and probably little read forum. The LBC presenters are professionals broadcasting to millions. Fanny is a joke, but Gobber is supposed to be a serious presenter. Can you imagine Paxman or John Humphries calling someone "Fishface" on air? No, neither can I.”

This is one of the big Brian problems. His Kevin the Teenager act is so predictable when he feels he isn't getting his own way. Spoilt and very childish. I would have expected someone to have a word with Brian and tell him that he's not at public school any more and he should try and keep his toys in his pram. Didn't we hear a story relatively recently where LBC management had spoken to him about a petulant and supercillious outburst? Fish face!
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