[The Sack]

Just flashed my Nexus 5 and I'm impressed, just seems more polished and rounded than lollipop (although that could be in my head).

The phone is currently optimising all the apps for battery use so that will be interesting to see if doze actually does anything.

[Stuart_h]

Is this still the developer preview or has the formal version started rolling out ?

If its the developer preview it was still missing loads of features I believe.

[Daveoc64]

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Originally Posted by Stuart_h

Is this still the developer preview or has the formal version started rolling out ?

It's the final version.

[Stuart_h]

Yup. Ignore me. Just seen the factory images are out. I'm currently locked and unrooted (nexus 6)..... Do I unlock and root or wait for ota.... Exciting times

[biggyt]

Rooting is not necessary to flash images, just unlocking the bootloader (very easy)

[Stuart_h]

Its been a while since I've flashed ROMs and images. I'm downloading SDK and I'll maybe have a go tomorrow as I doubt I'll have the ota by then

[finbaar]

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Originally Posted by Stuart_h

Its been a while since I've flashed ROMs and images. I'm downloading SDK and I'll maybe have a go tomorrow as I doubt I'll have the ota by then

I'm not saying that you shouldn't flash the factory image (I would) but you will get the OTA soon and by waiting you may dodge a bullet. Google are very good at doing phased releases of updates and making sure there are no problems - something Apple haven't grasped and which is why iPhones are left without the ability to make phone calls after an update among numerous other issues.

[The Sack]

I normally wait for the OTA but as its a full OS i thought sod it ill do a full and clean install.

that said the phone did a full restore so it was all pretty painless.

[The Sack]

Battery life seems better with doze, last night i went in to the Cinema at 8.15pm and at that point the phone had 35% battery life left but it had 2 hours 41 minutes SOT mostly with mobile data, when i came out and turned airplane mode off the battery had gone up to 38%.

My N5 usually hits maybe 2 hours SOT with mobile data on before its flat so a noticeable improvement.

Only app that doesn't work that i have installed is the Barclays app.

[Stuart_h]

OK. So I unlocked and flashed the image. So far very impressed with performance and battery life. Been using my phone all morning and battery managing way better than it has been recently. Not spotted any major changes in look and feel but the granular tuning of app access looks good and Now on tap could be a very useful addition. Seems like the first innovation in search for quite some time and makes the already powerful "Now" even better.

[The Sack]

glad the extra battery life isnt just in my head

[fluffed]

OTA update appeared for my N5 a hours ago, much quicker than the lollipop one did.

[The Sack]

thats just the luck of the draw, i got the lollipop OTA on the first day it came out but usually id been waiting for donkeys

[Daveoc64]

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Originally Posted by The Sack

Battery life seems better with doze, last night i went in to the Cinema at 8.15pm and at that point the phone had 35% battery life left but it had 2 hours 41 minutes SOT mostly with mobile data, when i came out and turned airplane mode off the battery had gone up to 38%.

Doze would not have activated in that time. It is only supposed to activate when the phone is left completely stationary for 4 hours or more. If you're carrying it in a pocket, then it should never kick in.

It's really intended for leaving a phone overnight or a tablet that isn't used very often.

[The Sack]

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Originally Posted by Daveoc64

Doze would not have activated in that time. It is only supposed to activate when the phone is left completely stationary for 4 hours or more. If you're carrying it in a pocket, then it should never kick in.

It's really intended for leaving a phone overnight or a tablet that isn't used very often.

Within 10 minutes of using it to doing nothing you can see that the phone has entered deep sleep and the battery graph has levelled right off to flat.

Overnight my Nexus 5 is now losing 1% every 4 or 5 hours.

[Stuart_h]

I have to say that I'm still finding the battery life incredible on marshmallow

That plus the big battery inside my nexus 6 - happy days

[Stuart_h]

I'm also liking the info on lockscreen - the greyscale stuff if the phone is moved.

[omnidirectional]

I got the update on my Nexus 9 on Friday and the battery life has definitely improved which is the most noticeable change.

As someone mentioned above, when the tablet isn't in use (even for just a few minutes) the battery usage graph now seems completely flat rather than slowly draining.

No update on my Nexus 5 yet.

[Daveoc64]

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Originally Posted by The Sack

Within 10 minutes of using it to doing nothing you can see that the phone has entered deep sleep and the battery graph has levelled right off to flat.

Overnight my Nexus 5 is now losing 1% every 4 or 5 hours.

Android has always had a "deep sleep" mode which activates when there aren't any Apps that need the device to be active.

I'll update my previous post to say that the official figure for Doze to kick in is 1 hour without significant movement. This is taken from the Android source code.

So in terms of the movement amount, if it was in your pocket and you were sitting still, that wouldn't be "significant movement", but if you were walking around town then it would be. Manufacturers are free to vary the rules on what constitutes "significant movement".

The time period is defined as two sets of 30 minutes without movement.

[jonmorris]

In an industry so desperate to still get people upgrading, even though we're at saturation point and more and more people are finding they're perfectly satisfied with what they have, the Nexus 5 with Marshmallow just shows how little we've come since its release.

Sure, it's not Cat 6 LTE and so on - but in terms of performance, for an old phone, the speed of operation puts many newer devices to shame. The battery is now far, far better than it was (of course, the same power saving features should have similar improvements for other devices so it's all relative) and the camera software even makes the 'disappointing' camera now seem far superior.

I almost wonder why Google didn't just carry on making this phone! And if people are likely selling them off to get something new, you can really get an awful lot of bang for the buck by snapping one up. It also has wireless charging, which so few new products have (given Apple never added it, it seems the industry doesn't care for it right now).

The memory menu shows average usage as 1.1GB on mine (over 24 hours) and that also shows how the rush to keep adding another GB of RAM is for the most part not needed and just one of the many ways to try and get people to buy something new.

Once again; the Nexus 5 is like a brand new phone with Android M. Let's hope Google doesn't ruin it with future updates, like it did with the Nexus 7 (2012).

I've got a 6P on order and loads of other phones, so I've not being using my N5 for some time, but now I really do want to start using it again. It wasn't bad with Lollipop either, to be fair, but it seems so much quicker and lag-free than devices with far superior SoCs. Just goes to show how vanilla Android really can win the day every time.

[Gigabit]

I've recently ordered a Nexus 5 (2013) because it still to this day performs so well.

I've got a Nexus 5X on order too so it'll be interesting to see how the two compare.

[palmbeach]

ota marshmellow update on my 2013 nexus 5 made my fav app stop working. Panasonic tvremote 2. so sad.....

[The Sack]

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Originally Posted by Daveoc64

Android has always had a "deep sleep" mode which activates when there aren't any Apps that need the device to be active.

I'll update my previous post to say that the official figure for Doze to kick in is 1 hour without significant movement. This is taken from the Android source code.

So in terms of the movement amount, if it was in your pocket and you were sitting still, that wouldn't be "significant movement", but if you were walking around town then it would be. Manufacturers are free to vary the rules on what constitutes "significant movement".

The time period is defined as two sets of 30 minutes without movement.

The phone was in my pocket for 4 hours while i was working the other day, i was moving about constantly and the phone lost 1% battery, on lollipop i reckon 15% would have vanished. As soon as the screen goes off the phone is hitting deep sleep rapidly regardless of you setting it down or doing the river dance. Whether it is doze or not my Nexus 5 as well other devices looking at other peoples posts on here and on forums such as XDA are reacting how we was lead to believe doze would work, i.e. increased standby times.

So then you can spout about source codes all day long but the people that are actually using the devices are seeing significant battery standby improvements.

[Daveoc64]

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Originally Posted by The Sack

The phone was in my pocket for 4 hours while i was working the other day, i was moving about constantly and the phone lost 1% battery, on lollipop i reckon 15% would have vanished. As soon as the screen goes off the phone is hitting deep sleep rapidly regardless of you setting it down or doing the river dance. Whether it is doze or not my Nexus 5 as well other devices looking at other peoples posts on here and on forums such as XDA are reacting how we was lead to believe doze would work, i.e. increased standby times.

So then you can spout about source codes all day long but the people that are actually using the devices are seeing significant battery standby improvements.

Doze disables nearly *everything* on the device - including location services. If you don't have location services, nothing that relies on tracking your location would ever work, so it must be based on device motion.

Android 6.0 contains a variety of battery optimisations. I'm sure Doze works well, but it works well because its mechanism of operation is to simply stop stuff running. It's not magical - it heavily restricts how applications can run which in turn reduces their battery consumption.

[The Sack]

So you would rather us say a variety of battery optimisations are working very well indeed rather than just saying Doze is great?

I know how Doze works, i can tell when its been on as my WiFi is off and you can see it flick back on shortly after the screen comes back on. I can also see the massive list of optimised apps that it plays with and which i can also alter the permissions within those apps.

I unplugged my phone at 9am this morning and at 11am i went for a 5 mile walk with it in my pocket and took a screen shot when i got back. As you can see the variety of battery optimisations are working really quite impressively. I've used Android since Eclair and i've never seen sleep being entered so fast or so effectively.

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...ps6tnqmqsv.jpg