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Sherlock_Holmes
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by CGG_12:
“I can't see richard making final 2 based on all I've seen tonight. Gary - despite really improving in recent weeks - will surely come 5th.

Charleine really got a good edit all round tonight. I'm with the bookies though, looks like a Joseph/Vana final from here, I do hope Charleine sneaks in though”

Agreed with this, bar the last Charleine bit, especially since Claude (one of the interviewers!) seems to really dislike Richard.

The problem with Charleine is her twitter war with Selina, would be very surprised to see a finalist engage in something like that (even though we know that Charleine can be very emotional about things).

Mind you, it's now a foreign (girls) against english (boys) battle
chrono88
10-12-2015
If I have to guess based on the pointing fingers in the preview. I think Gary is done (LS pointed once at his left hand side and there was Gary)

The repeated double pointing at the middle is a bit confusing. I have a feeling either Richard or Vana might not survive.

And it means either Chareline or Joseph is another finalist.
CGG_12
10-12-2015
One thing is that out of the 5 remaining, the two LS seems most fond of are Joseph and Charleine from what we've seen

With Vana, I haven't really noticed him ever really praising her or singling her out in any way.

Originally Posted by TheAuburnEnigma:
“* From the snippet on YF, looks like the wine business is Vana's business plan after all (she mentioned play on words - 'Vino by Vana') and considering she wasn't given more of a hard time over the excess oil this week, I'd say she probably is one of the final 2”

Yeah, it definitely seems that way. Claudine doesn't seem too impressed with the name . one of my more trivial pet hates but I cannot stand people constantly incorporating the Spanish word 'vino' into everyday regular English language "just one more glass of vino"!

Originally Posted by TheAuburnEnigma:
“* Joseph's numbers not stacking up - not a good sign (Roisin last year was another one wasn't she?)”

The main difference I see between Joe and Roisin is that I never was fully convinced LS ever fully warmed to Roisin while he clearly is fond of "Valentino"! I could see him being prepared to take more of a risk with J.

Originally Posted by Sherlock_Holmes:
“Agreed with this, bar the last Charleine bit, especially since Claude (one of the interviewers!) seems to really dislike Richard.

The problem with Charleine is her twitter war with Selina, would be very surprised to see a finalist engage in something like that (even though we know that Charleine can be very emotional about things).

Mind you, it's now a foreign (girls) against english (boys) battle ”

I've actually really warmed to her recently

But yeah, it's surely a Joseph/Vana final now barring something strange. I'm ruling out Richard on all I saw last night.

Interestingly after the girls have been playing catch up most of the series they could well have 2 out of final 3, or at least (imo) 2 out of the final 4. Vana really upset the applecart since her disastrous first few weeks
CGG_12
10-12-2015
If we look ahead of ourselves, it'd be interesting to see Team Vana in the final. Most of the girls went out early and would have negative memories of her awful project management. I'd say most would prefer team Joseph/Richard/charleine!

She'd be hoping Brett and Richard are around, is the latter really going to come back and try and help another contestant take his prize though?

I hope Dan is back, he really was potentially a great contestant imo, didn't give a sh1t and was good entertainment.

couldn't see selina, april or scott returning.
TheAuburnEnigma
10-12-2015
So after final 5 show, my revised rankings are:

Final - Charleine and Vana
3rd - Joseph
4th - Richard
5th - Gary

Joseph in all honesty should be final 2 (all praise last night, he really should have been in the BR instead of Gary though), he got the sympathetic PM loss edit that I was looking for which usually indicates either a winner or at least interviews (Tom P, Ricky, Neil, Mark), but I think he'll get the 'with regret' after seeing his clip for the interviews.

I'm starting to think Charleine might just win........
ShotDownInFlame
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by TheAuburnEnigma:
“ I'm starting to think Charleine might just win........”

I hope not!!! Unprofessional doesn't begin to cover her! If either her or Gary win I will be bitterly disappointed. Even Joseph who I so despise would be a much more "satisfying" winner than either of those two.
Alex_McNamee
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by CGG_12:
“If we look ahead of ourselves, it'd be interesting to see Team Vana in the final. Most of the girls went out early and would have negative memories of her awful project management. I'd say most would prefer team Joseph/Richard/charleine!

She'd be hoping Brett and Richard are around, is the latter really going to come back and try and help another contestant take his prize though?

I hope Dan is back, he really was potentially a great contestant imo, didn't give a sh1t and was good entertainment.

couldn't see selina, april or scott returning.”

What they did last year was invite the eight previous eliminated candidates back for the teams (bar Roisin, who couldn't go because something came up. She was replaced quite strangely with Sarah.). I imagine that the three interview candidates with Brett, David, Sam, and some others from earlier (maybe Ruth) coming back (I can't see Selina or Scott coming back.)
BigDaveX
10-12-2015
An article at the top of the Daily Mail website right now describes Charleine as an "Apprentice finalist" rather than "Apprentice candidate." This might just be a case of the journalist not being aware that the interview round isn't the final any more... or maybe someone just carelessly revealed more than they were supposed to...?
chrono88
10-12-2015
Are there 4 interviewers as always? Claudine, Claude, and who are the other two? I cannot name them atm.
Sherlock_Holmes
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by CGG_12:
“If we look ahead of ourselves, it'd be interesting to see Team Vana in the final. Most of the girls went out early and would have negative memories of her awful project management. I'd say most would prefer team Joseph/Richard/charleine! ”

You have answered your own question, as I can't see the likes of Aisha or Jenny coming back (as very early eliminated candidates). Assuming that 8 candidates come back, I would say they would be 3x final five + Natalie + Ruth + Elle + David + Brett.

And Vana is friendly with most of the females on twitter However, Charleine does have a problem if she gets to the final (assuming those people will be back, she really has to hope that Vana is fired, as I can only see Brett on her side there; perhaps Ruth, but they didn't work much together but Ruth didn't like Selina either).

Unless we are getting a double bluff with Richard, I can't see him getting to the final now.

Personally, I would be ok with most combinations that don't feature Gary (lol). Joseph vs. Charleine would be the one that would cause me to go to sleep out of those options. Most of the others have had good rivalries during the series.
Alex_McNamee
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by chrono88:
“Are there 4 interviewers as always? Claudine, Claude, and who are the other two? I cannot name them atm.”

Mike Soutar - the one who always reads CVs and puts them into perspective. For example, his "konjac is not an original ingredient" quip, or purchasing a website Jade claimed to own.
Then a new one - think she's called Linda Plant or Perry? - the one grilling Charleine in the previews.
Alex_McNamee
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by Sherlock_Holmes:
“You have answered your own question, as I can't see the likes of Aisha or Jenny coming back (as very early eliminated candidates). Assuming that 8 candidates come back, I would say they would be 3x final five + Natalie + Ruth + Elle + David + Brett.

And Vana is friendly with most of the females on twitter However, Charleine does have a problem if she gets to the final (assuming those people will be back, she really has to hope that Vana is fired, as I can only see Brett on her side there; perhaps Ruth, but they didn't work much together but Ruth didn't like Selina either).

Unless we are getting a double bluff with Richard, I can't see him getting to the final now.

Personally, I would be ok with most combinations that don't feature Gary (lol). Joseph vs. Charleine would be the one that would cause me to go to sleep out of those options. Most of the others have had good rivalries during the series.”

Charleine doesn't work with Brett. She confirmed this on Twitter. Not sure if that helps at all - either means Charleine didn't make the final and both were picked on different sides, Charleine DID make the final and didn't choose Brett, or Brett didn't return.
Sherlock_Holmes
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by Alex_McNamee:
“Charleine doesn't work with Brett. She confirmed this on Twitter. Not sure if that helps at all - either means Charleine didn't make the final and both were picked on different sides, Charleine DID make the final and didn't choose Brett, or Brett didn't return.”

She could have meant the main series, offcourse.

As for guessing first picks (assuming Scott and Selina are out at the very least):

Charleine - Vana / Gary / Joseph / Mergim?

Richard - Vana / David

Gary - David / Joseph / Elle

Vana - Charleine / Sam / Mergim / Brett

Joseph - Gary / Mergim

Struggling for Joseph and Richard, who are both not that connected with the other candidates (if Selina was there, she would be Richard's first choice). And Charleine picks would be mostly be the other final fivers. Also depends on who comes back and who makes the final.

By the way, this is the trailer for the final five show next week (which was put on-line BEFORE last night's episode aired; which is why I knew that either Gary or Brett was fired):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8eqIMDQkio


And here is a preview clip for next week (introducing the interviewers):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-Hwcv4Ie9o
CGG_12
10-12-2015
Hmm first picks...

Provided they're not against each other, I'd see Charleine and Joseph picking each other first. They seemed to connect well throughout. Vana would pick Brett. Richard would pick Brett/Vana

In my hypothetical final between Joseph and Vana

Joseph: Charleine-Gary- Elle- Mergim
Vana: Brett- David- Sam- Natalie/Ruth (which one went first?)

Can't see Selina and Scott back, while I can't see Richard either he seems way too self-important to come back and help someone take his prize . April, might be back but she strikes me as the type who wouldn't really bother
inothernews
11-12-2015
Originally Posted by Sherlock_Holmes:
“She could have meant the main series, offcourse.

As for guessing first picks (assuming Scott and Selina are out at the very least):

Charleine - Vana / Gary / Joseph / Mergim?

Richard - Vana / David

Gary - David / Joseph / Elle

Vana - Charleine / Sam / Mergim / Brett

Joseph - Gary / Mergim

Struggling for Joseph and Richard, who are both not that connected with the other candidates (if Selina was there, she would be Richard's first choice). And Charleine picks would be mostly be the other final fivers. Also depends on who comes back and who makes the final.

By the way, this is the trailer for the final five show next week (which was put on-line BEFORE last night's episode aired; which is why I knew that either Gary or Brett was fired):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8eqIMDQkio


And here is a preview clip for next week (introducing the interviewers):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-Hwcv4Ie9o”

Why would anyone want Mergim as a first pick?

He may have been popular with other contestants, but if I wanted to win it wouldn't be about picking my mate.
Diorelli
11-12-2015
From the Final 5 programme and Claude's Final Five "verdict". It seems to me the Final 2 are Joseph and Charleine with Joseph to win.

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-...015-final-five

I prefer Vana v Joseph but let's see
Alex_McNamee
11-12-2015
Originally Posted by Sherlock_Holmes:
“She could have meant the main series, offcourse.

As for guessing first picks (assuming Scott and Selina are out at the very least):

Charleine - Vana / Gary / Joseph / Mergim?

Richard - Vana / David

Gary - David / Joseph / Elle

Vana - Charleine / Sam / Mergim / Brett

Joseph - Gary / Mergim

Struggling for Joseph and Richard, who are both not that connected with the other candidates (if Selina was there, she would be Richard's first choice). And Charleine picks would be mostly be the other final fivers. Also depends on who comes back and who makes the final.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-Hwcv4Ie9o”

I mostly agree with this I would make some changes though (people are ranked by choice)
Charleine - Vana, Joseph (the only two she hasn't really bickered with), Gary. Genuinely have no idea for the fourth. If I had to guess I might say Sam(?)
Gary - (making this clear now, there's no way this guy is in the final) - Brett, Joseph, David, Vana.
Joseph - Gary, Charleine, Brett, Sam(?)
Richard - Vana, Gary, Joseph (to his reluctance lol), Brett.
Vana - Charleine, Richard (ooh, the beef), Brett, Gary.
This won't be completely correct, it's just my assumption.

Not liking Linda as an interviewer already. She was really quite mean to Charleine, almost patronising ("are you gonna cry? huh?"), and it seems like she instantly took against her ("I think it's b*llsh*t"). Thing is with them though, they have to strike a balance between being tough (it's reality TV at the end of the day) and not just appearing one dimensional. That's why I think Ricky wasn't brought back. He seemed to ask questions just to make people look bad and then didn't really report anything to Lord Sugar.

The other three I like. Claude's a bit of a "character" but he seems to know his stuff. Mike's good too, he does quite a good job of taking the wind out of the sails. He does his research as well (konjac, anyone?). Claudine's quite good too. Even though she's meant to be tough, you can tell that she empathises for the candidates sometimes, if they're struggling emotionally, for example (Neil Clough, i.e).
Phoebica
11-12-2015
Originally Posted by inothernews:
“Why would anyone want Mergim as a first pick?

He may have been popular with other contestants, but if I wanted to win it wouldn't be about picking my mate.”

Depends on the task, but if any DIY is involved why would you not pick him?
Gwaed Waedlyd
11-12-2015
This season is truly the worst season ever if the final 2 are Ratface and crybaby
Tyjet
11-12-2015
Originally Posted by Sherlock_Holmes:
“Mind you, it's now a foreign (girls) against english (boys) battle ”

Wtf? Since when has being from Wales made you a foreigner?
Sherlock_Holmes
14-12-2015
So, You're Fired is being filmed tonight.

Assuming the two finalists aren't there (a smart producer would make sure that they were), we might learn something about the likely finalists.

Gary - Tweeted something 3 hours ago.

Charleine - Tweeted something 7 hours ago (including asking an advice on how to style her hair today)

Vana - Tweeted something 2 hours ago

Richard - Tweeted something 45 minutes ago (also retweeted two comments about a vana vs. richard final)

Joseph - Tweeted something 10 hours ago

Keeping in mind that Joseph doesn't tweet that much and Gary and Richard are almost definitely in London today.
CGG_12
14-12-2015
Gary is in London for the week anyway acc to his Twitter.

he obviously won't make the final, but if it was anyone else I still wouldn't overly read into it, hardly too obscure a jaunt to make!

Looks like we're pretty much all in the dark re Wed, bar assumptions!
Cats_Eyes
14-12-2015
Originally Posted by Tyjet:
“Wtf? Since when has being from Wales made you a foreigner?”



Possibly if and when the "other" girl makes the final in which case the "other" one can wonder back to the valleys.
ShotDownInFlame
14-12-2015
Originally Posted by Sherlock_Holmes:
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Charleine - Tweeted something 7 hours ago (including asking an advice on how to style her hair today)

Vana - Tweeted something 2 hours ago

Richard - Tweeted something 45 minutes ago (also retweeted two comments about a vana vs. richard final)

Joseph - Tweeted something 10 hours ago

Keeping in mind that Joseph doesn't tweet that much and Gary and Richard are almost definitely in London today.”

So based on that information, order of candidates most likely to make the final are:
1. Vana
2. Joseph
3. Charleine
4. Richard
5. Gary
I would have thought
Alex_McNamee
14-12-2015
Originally Posted by ShotDownInFlame:
“So based on that information, order of candidates most likely to make the final are:
1. Vana
2. Joseph
3. Charleine
4. Richard
5. Gary
I would have thought”

I'd imagine this is based on a mixture of logic and evidence we've gathered - hence why Richard and Gary are fourth and fifth respectively.

It could be anyone's game between Joseph, Vana and Charleine, with you thinking Charleine is third because of the hair thing and that she's quite unpopular.

I really think it's a Joseph/Vana/Charleine three horse race and this hasn't done anything but solidified my expectations - I'm not too sure who the final two actually are. Charleine's hair tweet could simply be a curveball, because surely, I'd have thought, she'd style her hair professionally if appearing on a business-related show, instead of asking her followers.

I could be very wrong though.
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