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Supernovae
18-11-2015
The clip with Vana, Richard and Brett coming out of the boardroom could well be from next week and the way it's cut we can't tell if one or more people come out before or after. Depending on the number of people fired tonight you would expect either four or five people on that team if it's from the same episode as the bickering in the cafe.
DUNDEEBOY
18-11-2015
Selina for the interviews that way they can cope with her refusal to go on your fired
TheAuburnEnigma
18-11-2015
Originally Posted by Supernovae:
“The clip with Vana, Richard and Brett coming out of the boardroom could well be from next week and the way it's cut we can't tell if one or more people come out before or after. Depending on the number of people fired tonight you would expect either four or five people on that team if it's from the same episode as the bickering in the cafe.”

Doesn't look like it, end clip seems to have Charleine and Gary on the same team, so cannot be same ep as bickering in cafe unless Selina moves over (which it doesn't look like).

Pretty sure you can see Gary sat next to someone else in a BR clip as well (it's not Charleine as the jacket doesn't match), so seems his team lose and Selina wins.
Gwaed Waedlyd
18-11-2015
I think David is fired next week

Was there a clip of Scott in a three person team as well?
TheAuburnEnigma
18-11-2015
So from YF - Richard and Joseph swap over (Richard with Selina, Vana and Scott; Joseph with Gary, Charleine, Brett, and David), and David must go.

Scott should (as he hasn't been seen in any late intro clips thus far, unless there were some new ones tonight) be fired in week 9, so unless he's with Richard/Vana/Brett and just isn't seen when they leave the BR (which would involve Brett swapping with Selina), looks like the clips with Brett/Richard/Vana and Selina/Joseph/Charleine/Gary (with Joseph being PM) must be from week 10 with Scott leaving in week 9 - I'd say this is more likely as the Richard/Vana/Brett clip looks like they've won the task, and there's a clip of Gary next to Joseph in the BR that would fit with it being a losing BR (he's next to one of the girls in the other clip and he and Joseph are the 'bookends').

EDIT: meant to say Richard and Brett instead of Richard and Joseph
Sherlock_Holmes
18-11-2015
Originally Posted by TheAuburnEnigma:
“So from YF - Richard and Joseph swap over (Richard with Selina, Vana and Scott; Joseph with Gary, Charleine, Brett, and David), and David must go.”

Richard and Joseph were on the same team tonight



Originally Posted by TheAuburnEnigma:
“Scott should (as he hasn't been seen in any late intro clips thus far, unless there were some new ones tonight) be fired in week 9, so unless he's with Richard/Vana/Brett and just isn't seen when they leave the BR (which would involve Brett swapping with Selina), looks like the clips with Brett/Richard/Vana and Selina/Joseph/Charleine/Gary (with Joseph being PM) must be from week 10 with Scott leaving in week 9 - I'd say this is more likely as the Richard/Vana/Brett clip looks like they've won the task, and there's a clip of Gary next to Joseph in the BR that would fit with it being a losing BR (he's next to one of the girls in the other clip and he and Joseph are the 'bookends').”

Pretty sure that Selina (PM) wins the task next week and then switches over in week 9 to the other team. David is probably the other PM next week and gets fired.

Could be that Scott gets fired in week 9, but that doesn't explain the cafe bickering on the other team (there are 4 people there). Perhaps the double firing takes place in week 10??
Supernovae
18-11-2015
My theory is that the cafe bickering could be a prelude to a Selina/Charleine double firing. That might be why Selina has refused to appear on You're Fired.
TheAuburnEnigma
18-11-2015
Originally Posted by Sherlock_Holmes:
“Richard and Joseph were on the same team tonight





Pretty sure that Selina (PM) wins the task next week and then switches over in week 9 to the other team. David is probably the other PM next week and gets fired.

Could be that Scott gets fired in week 9, but that doesn't explain the cafe bickering on the other team (there are 4 people there). Perhaps the double firing takes place in week 10??”

Part 1: I did edit my post to say I meant Brett rather than Joseph

Selina must move over either in task 9 or task 10. I'm pretty sure the 2 clips I mentioned above are from the same task, which I'd believe to be task 10. I'd also say that this is the real estate task (there's a clip of Brett here and I think he might be PM, clothes match with the clip featuring him, Richard and Vana).

If the double firing is in task 10 (with the cafe clip), with just Scott going next week, then from another intro clip I've seen, either Charleine or Selina survives until the interviews, as Joseph, who looks to be PM, brings Gary back to the BR with him (clothing matches and Gary is sat next to Joseph as opposed to being the other end initally). From yet another intro clip (I know!) the other person he brings back seems to be Selina, which means that Charleine/Vana/Brett/Richard would be 4 of our final 5.
Gwaed Waedlyd
18-11-2015
Originally Posted by Supernovae:
“My theory is that the cafe bickering could be a prelude to a Selina/Charleine double firing. That might be why Selina has refused to appear on You're Fired.”

Personally I think

David is fired week 8
Scott is fired week 9

Team Vana/Brett/Richard some how win against team Gary/Jospeh/Selina/Charline

Then Selina and Gary are fired in double firing (Selina has it coming tbh, she wins the next 2 weeks but then is in the boardroom week 10 and gone, and Gary's edit has been nothing so far and he was a poor PM tonight so cant see him making interviews)

Both Jospeh and CHarline have had stronger edits and seem better performance wise than Gary and Selina so I would assume they make the interviews with Vana, Richard and Brett

I really think Joseph is one of the two finalists; his edit has been great so far compared to everyone else. I notice edit wise they show all his strong points and what he is good at so I think they are showing this because he is a finalists/winner
ShotDownInFlame
19-11-2015
Originally Posted by Supernovae:
“My theory is that the cafe bickering could be a prelude to a Selina/Charleine double firing. That might be why Selina has refused to appear on You're Fired.”

Ohhhhh that would be TOO sweet. Would be a good week, that boardroom.
slouchingthatch
19-11-2015
Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY:
“Selina for the interviews that way they can cope with her refusal to go on your fired”

It can't be engineered like that. Interviews were filmed long before Selina announced she wouldn't be doing YF.
Reggie Rebel
19-11-2015
Originally Posted by Supernovae:
“My theory is that the cafe bickering could be a prelude to a Selina/Charleine double firing. That might be why Selina has refused to appear on You're Fired.”


Odds on her doing Your Fired when they don't pay her?
Arthur_B
19-11-2015
Originally Posted by Reggie Rebel:
“Odds on her doing Your Fired when they don't pay her?”

Agree - despite her constant moans about the BBC on her Twitter page, I'd be very surprised if she didn't show up on You're Fired in the end.
CGG_12
19-11-2015
Originally Posted by slouchingthatch:
“It can't be engineered like that. Interviews were filmed long before Selina announced she wouldn't be doing YF.”

Indeed, a lot of people seem to forget this!

A lot also seem to forget that the YF Selina is appearing on is still a few weeks away from being filmed!

So she hasn't 100% actually refused to appear yet. I agree with Arthur, I'd be surprised if she didn't ultimately appear
CGG_12
19-11-2015
Originally Posted by Gwaed Waedlyd:
“Personally I think

David is fired week 8
Scott is fired week 9

Team Vana/Brett/Richard some how win against team Gary/Jospeh/Selina/Charline

Then Selina and Gary are fired in double firing (Selina has it coming tbh, she wins the next 2 weeks but then is in the boardroom week 10 and gone, and Gary's edit has been nothing so far and he was a poor PM tonight so cant see him making interviews)”

Yeah, this is my reckoning 100%

Not a hope in hell Selina is escaping another final BR and Gary is complete deadwood. Joseph will bring them both back and they'll be fired

I knew we had to get another multiple firing in somewhere between last week and the end of the series but it never occurred to me it'd be from the final 7- I just assumed Scott would go last night.

David's edit has been terrible in recent weeks after starting out strongly, so no chance we're being misled with him. Can't see it with Scott either- he's been portrayed badly now the last two weeks after being a real contender till then
frally
20-11-2015
It's not obvious why most of you here assume that Scott will be fired in Task 9.

I personally think that :

Task 8 (Party Planners): David is fired

Task 9 (Property Agents): Gary and Selina/Joseph are fired (double firing)

And I'm starting to think that the producers may be aiming for a Richard v Charleine final to generate some interest in this flagging series.
CGG_12
20-11-2015
Originally Posted by frally:
“It's not obvious why most of you here assume that Scott will be fired in Task 9.

I personally think that :

Task 8 (Party Planners): David is fired

Task 9 (Property Agents): Gary and Selina/Joseph are fired (double firing)

And I'm starting to think that the producers may be aiming for a Richard v Charleine final to generate some interest in this flagging series.”

There's intro clips of Selina, Charlene, Gary and Joseph on a losing team, with another of Vana, Richard and Brett exiting the BR looking jubilant. 2 and 2 together job!

It could be a bit misleading, but I can't see it- Scott has gotten a terrible edit now the last two weeks, and pretty much asked to be fired in the BR last episode. He genuinely lost the plot. Can't see him surviving another BR

I don't really think LS and co make their decision (back in about April/May) for the final 2 based on apparent ratings that won't be known for 6 months. this isn't x factor

The bookies have Vana and Joseph as the clear 1 and 2 it'd be hard to go against them

They've been essentially throwing Joseph at us the last few weeks portraying him as infallable pretty much
PatheticFallacy
21-11-2015
The bookies still taking money on Selina when she's flat out said she doesn't win is shady as hell.
Gwaed Waedlyd
21-11-2015
Originally Posted by CGG_12:
“There's intro clips of Selina, Charlene, Gary and Joseph on a losing team, with another of Vana, Richard and Brett exiting the BR looking jubilant. 2 and 2 together job!

It could be a bit misleading, but I can't see it- Scott has gotten a terrible edit now the last two weeks, and pretty much asked to be fired in the BR last episode. He genuinely lost the plot. Can't see him surviving another BR

I don't really think LS and co make their decision (back in about April/May) for the final 2 based on apparent ratings that won't be known for 6 months. this isn't x factor

The bookies have Vana and Joseph as the clear 1 and 2 it'd be hard to go against them

They've been essentially throwing Joseph at us the last few weeks portraying him as infallable pretty much”

Agree completely with you apart from bookies having Vana in final 2 ]

I think it will be Richard vs Joseph myself. I dont think Vana has been that great at all
Gwaed Waedlyd
21-11-2015
Originally Posted by frally:
“It's not obvious why most of you here assume that Scott will be fired in Task 9.

I personally think that :

Task 8 (Party Planners): David is fired

Task 9 (Property Agents): Gary and Selina/Joseph are fired (double firing)

And I'm starting to think that the producers may be aiming for a Richard v Charleine final to generate some interest in this flagging series.”

I suppose this could be happen as well regarding week 9 but like CGG said Scotts edit has been poor lately and its not a doubt edit like Mark had last season.
TheAuburnEnigma
21-11-2015
Originally Posted by frally:
“It's not obvious why most of you here assume that Scott will be fired in Task 9.

I personally think that :

Task 8 (Party Planners): David is fired

Task 9 (Property Agents): Gary and Selina/Joseph are fired (double firing)

And I'm starting to think that the producers may be aiming for a Richard v Charleine final to generate some interest in this flagging series.”

It is possible for it to work out that way, however as CGG says below (and I've said this as well) - the 2 clips of Selina/Charleine/Gary/Joseph on a losing team, and Vana/Richard/Brett leaving the BR together, look as though they could be from the same ep (if it is the property agent ep, then it makes sense as there's a clip of Brett on his own and the clothing there matches the 'outside BR' clip; is that definitely the week 9 ep?). I've already said that it's possible that Scott was leaving with Vana/Richard/Brett and is just out of shot, but as Scott hasn't been seen in any more future clips, then chances are he's already gone by that point.

Originally Posted by CGG_12:
“There's intro clips of Selina, Charlene, Gary and Joseph on a losing team, with another of Vana, Richard and Brett exiting the BR looking jubilant. 2 and 2 together job!

It could be a bit misleading, but I can't see it- Scott has gotten a terrible edit now the last two weeks, and pretty much asked to be fired in the BR last episode. He genuinely lost the plot. Can't see him surviving another BR

I don't really think LS and co make their decision (back in about April/May) for the final 2 based on apparent ratings that won't be known for 6 months. this isn't x factor

The bookies have Vana and Joseph as the clear 1 and 2 it'd be hard to go against them

They've been essentially throwing Joseph at us the last few weeks portraying him as infallable pretty much”

That's right, the interviews would have been filmed before the broadcast began. I actually reckon only one of Richard/Charleine would be in the final 2 (and my money would be Richard vs Joseph).

Also, it depends on when precisely the clip of Joseph/Charleine/Selina/Gary comes in (this is the same ep where Charleine cries outside of the BR btw, same jewellery and jacket) - if it's ep 9, then all we know is that Vana/Richard/Brett and Charleine survive to week 10, with Scott having to be on Vana's team and thus surviving (Joseph as PM brings Selina and Gary back into the BR, there are other clips showing this). If it's ep 10, then those 4 are 4 of the final 5 (Scott would be gone in week 9 in this scenario, as could only be single firings for weeks 8 and 9) with one of Joseph/Selina/Gary joining them for the interviews.

Basically there's another double firing at some point: it's either week 9 or week 10 (as David and Scott are on separate teams for task 8 iirc). Personally I would say that the 2 clips are from week 10, in which case Scott must be fired in week 9 and for 2 of Selina/Joseph/Gary to be fired in week 10. There is a chance that the 2 clips are from different eps, although I'd say it works out too well for them to be the same ep.
Sherlock_Holmes
21-11-2015
Originally Posted by TheAuburnEnigma:
“Also, it depends on when precisely the clip of Joseph/Charleine/Selina/Gary comes in (this is the same ep where Charleine cries outside of the BR btw, same jewellery and jacket) - if it's ep 9, then all we know is that Vana/Richard/Brett and Charleine survive to week 10, with Scott having to be on Vana's team and thus surviving (Joseph as PM brings Selina and Gary back into the BR, there are other clips showing this). If it's ep 10, then those 4 are 4 of the final 5 (Scott would be gone in week 9 in this scenario, as could only be single firings for weeks 8 and 9) with one of Joseph/Selina/Gary joining them for the interviews.”

The boardroom clip is 100% from episode 9, as team Joseph are sitting on the same side of the boardroom as this week (so, two weeks from now).

Don't think it's the same episode as the Charleine crying clip though, as she is seen wearing a pink blouse there (instead of the bright green one in the boardroom clip). But they could have had a change of clothes (remember that there is also the cafe scenes in between those boardrooms; can't remember if a change of wardrobe is common in between boardrooms).



Originally Posted by TheAuburnEnigma:
“Basically there's another double firing at some point: it's either week 9 or week 10 (as David and Scott are on separate teams for task 8 iirc). Personally I would say that the 2 clips are from week 10, in which case Scott must be fired in week 9 and for 2 of Selina/Joseph/Gary to be fired in week 10. There is a chance that the 2 clips are from different eps, although I'd say it works out too well for them to be the same ep.”

But would they show part of the final five in the intro? In the past they have shown (outside the) boardroom celebrations, misleading or not, but those were from recollection always from task 9 at the latest.

That is the thing I'm struggling with. Can't see them both being from the same episode, and yet it doesn't seem to make sense if they aren't. Scott surviving has really thrown me in regard to explaining those two boardroom scenes.
TheAuburnEnigma
21-11-2015
Originally Posted by Sherlock_Holmes:
“The boardroom clip is 100% from episode 9, as team Joseph are sitting on the same side of the boardroom as this week (so, two weeks from now).

Don't think it's the same episode as the Charleine crying clip though, as she is seen wearing a pink blouse there (instead of the bright green one in the boardroom clip). But they could have had a change of clothes (remember that there is also the cafe scenes in between those boardrooms; can't remember if a change of wardrobe is common in between boardrooms).





But would they show part of the final five in the intro? In the past they have shown (outside the) boardroom celebrations, misleading or not, but those were from recollection always from task 9 at the latest.

That is the thing I'm struggling with. Can't see them both being from the same episode, and yet it doesn't seem to make sense if they aren't. Scott surviving has really thrown me in regard to explaining those two boardroom scenes.”

1st bit: Could you explain how it's 100% that the BR clip of the 4-team would be week 9? I would have thought that each 'team' would be on a particular side of the BR each week, for logistics (so for example, Versatile on the left facing Claude, Connexus on the right facing Karren). Happy to be proved wrong on that one.

2nd bit: For Scott to survive, and both clips to be from ep 9, he has to be the last one to leave and thus behind the door when Brett comes out (we know he survives next week as it looks like Team Selina wins, which he's on). There's also been a clip from the intros that we haven't seen yet, and that's one of Richard outside a building (or at least outside a room) being a little upset, which for all we know could be from the interviews (almost certainly not but you never know).

Been trying to work it out how it could be possible for the 2 clips to be from different eps (so the 4-team in ep 9 and the Richard/Vana/Brett clip from ep 10 going from what you said earlier) and the only way it could be done would be for Scott to be with Richard/Vana/Brett in week 9, then swap over to the other team in task 10 (which would make it almost certain that week 9 would involve a double firing from Joseph/Selina/Gary). It's possible, but from the actual BR clip of the 4-team, I'd still say that the narrative makes it more likely for both clips to be from the same ep.
frally
21-11-2015
Originally Posted by TheAuburnEnigma:
“1st bit: Could you explain how it's 100% that the BR clip of the 4-team would be week 9? I would have thought that each 'team' would be on a particular side of the BR each week, for logistics (so for example, Versatile on the left facing Claude, Connexus on the right facing Karren). Happy to be proved wrong on that one...”


You've just identified a major error in your own reasoning. Gary/Versatile is facing Karren in the 4 person BR clip, so it has to be from Task 9. Since Versatile lose Task 9, Scott survives to Task 10.

So all of you above (apart from Sherlock) who had pooh-poohed my view that Scott survives to Task 10, will now have to eat (loads of) humble pie.
TheAuburnEnigma
21-11-2015
Originally Posted by frally:
“You've just identified a major error in your own reasoning. Gary/Versatile is facing Karren in the 4 person BR clip, so it has to be from Task 9. Since Versatile lose Task 9, Scott survives to Task 10.

So all of you above (apart from Sherlock) who had pooh-poohed my view that Scott survives to Task 10, will now have to eat (loads of) humble pie. ”

Erm, was only giving that as an example to attempt to clarify my question (didn't know if that's what actually happened) and in all honesty, I still don't get how that proves it's task 9? (So what, they basically swap sides every week?)

Also, I didn't actually 'pooh-pooh' your view that Scott survived to week 10, as in an earlier post (the one where I mixed up Joseph and Brett) I did state that Scott could be with Richard/Vana/Brett and just isn't seen in the clip (something which I have backed up in later posts) and although it seems implausible that the 2 clips could be from different eps due to them having a narrative that works with both clips, I have actually come up with something to explain why they could be from different eps from what Sherlock posted.

Never said it was impossible, just said it was unlikely, so someone else might have to eat some humble pie too (joking rather than being aggressive-Brett here)
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