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Old 14-10-2015, 12:29
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It has a nice quick beat going through, I think it can work and if they leave any stuttering in she can use it for a breather or some nice idiosyncrasy
Aliona has a good track record with quirky, for sure.
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Old 14-10-2015, 14:18
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They got tons of stick over their "Psycho Killer' Halloween Tango (IIRC) due to excessive theatrical faffing, but it WAS Halloween (and the first time I really thought I saw any real fire in Harry, possibly due to a song he knew and could relate to, possibly due to the freedom to let loose that Halloween outfits give - the one redeeming feature of this particular theme week, imo).

Aliona did faffing with Matt because he rarely had time to learn the whole dance due to work commitments, or at least, that's the rumour. I don't doubt that they would have won that year if he had more time to learn.
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It was Series 8 of course - where the Producer introduced props, etc. as something they wanted to see used.
IMO, The actual dance content was high in the CCC, Foxtrot, Quickstep, Charleston, VW, Rumba, Tango, Samba, and Paso Doble.

The ones where it wasn't so high were the AT, Jive, Salsa and arguably the AS where they just did the required amount of the Foxtrot
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Old 14-10-2015, 14:24
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They got tons of stick over their "Psycho Killer' Halloween Tango (IIRC) due to excessive theatrical faffing, but it WAS Halloween (and the first time I really thought I saw any real fire in Harry, possibly due to a song he knew and could relate to, possibly due to the freedom to let loose that Halloween outfits give - the one redeeming feature of this particular theme week, imo).

Aliona did faffing with Matt because he rarely had time to learn the whole dance due to work commitments, or at least, that's the rumour. I don't doubt that they would have won that year if he had more time to learn.
Regarding that tango. I remember Karen Hardy criticised it very very much, but towards the end of the series Karen said that Aliona had been right to do that because as like you others saw the fire in him as well as honed in the technique in small steps.
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Old 14-10-2015, 14:35
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It was Series 8 of course - where the Producer introduced props, etc. as something they wanted to see used.
IMO, The actual dance content was high in the CCC, Foxtrot, Quickstep, Charleston, VW, Rumba, Tango, Samba, and Paso Doble.

The ones where it wasn't so high were the AT, Jive, Salsa and arguably the AS where they just did the required amount of the Foxtrot
And I think all of those dances from Matt were examples of limited training time - except the AS which I think was just Aliona being flouncy and contemporary

The AT week Matt was ill, Salsa was probably just Aliona doing a Brendan and focusing on one dance (the Tango) in a 2 dance week, and the jive was managed on about 4 hours training due to getting stuck on Uist in snow filming the Countryfile Xmas Special.

Basically I think Aliona has had a lot of mud thrown at her choreography over the years but I think she's one of the best pros at delivering complex routines for talented celebs.

It's going to be fun seeing what she manages to deliver for Jay over the next few weeks
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Old 14-10-2015, 14:36
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Regarding that tango. I remember Karen Hardy criticised it very very much, but towards the end of the series Karen said that Aliona had been right to do that because as like you others saw the fire in him as well as honed in the technique in small steps.
I suspect that Aliona could have extended the in hold part a few more bars and still have got the performance from Harry, but it did mean that his legacy also included the ability to perform, because he acted that role very well.

Great music from the band too - it will probably be the dance his children show to their friends at school.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aafV0V2n97k
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Old 14-10-2015, 14:48
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And I think all of those dances from Matt were examples of limited training time - except the AS which I think was just Aliona being flouncy and contemporary

The AT week Matt was ill, Salsa was probably just Aliona doing a Brendan and focusing on one dance (the Tango) in a 2 dance week, and the jive was managed on about 4 hours training due to getting stuck on Uist in snow filming the Countryfile Xmas Special.

Basically I think Aliona has had a lot of mud thrown at her choreography over the years but I think she's one of the best pros at delivering complex routines for talented celebs.

It's going to be fun seeing what she manages to deliver for Jay over the next few weeks
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Yes - that's what I thought because it seemed accepted to 'be the case', and when Claudia mentioned only 4 hours of training in one of the last ITT's, Matt didn't say different, but Aliona in a Q&A said

3. How many hours did you have to train for the Jive, was it really only 4 hours?
Of course it wasn’t, I don’t know where it came from. Maybe because of all the travel and Matt’s work 4 hours a day some days yes, but other wise we worked our selves to death as always

taken from a Q&A on Aliona's fansite
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Old 14-10-2015, 17:53
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Wow, the video of Jay's jive has 452,781 views
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Old 14-10-2015, 18:19
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Wow, the video of Jay's jive has 452,781 views
And 3.3M on Facebook.

I know FB views are massively inflated as they autoplay but remember people will watch from there now and not even go to YouTube so they should be taken into account.
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Old 14-10-2015, 20:21
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YT SCD videos are now restricted to UK, so FB videos are now where the rest of the world can (still) watch.
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Old 14-10-2015, 20:37
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YT SCD videos are now restricted to UK, so FB videos are now where the rest of the world can (still) watch.
Yes so when you compare it to Sophie's Charleston (the most viewed dance from strictly) available worldwide for About 2 years and has 800,000 views it shows you how amazing the views are for Jays jive- nearly 500,000 in a week just in the UK
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Old 14-10-2015, 21:12
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Old 15-10-2015, 01:12
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And 3.3M on Facebook.

I know FB views are massively inflated as they autoplay but remember people will watch from there now and not even go to YouTube so they should be taken into account.
They only auto play if you don't turn it off
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Old 15-10-2015, 01:43
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I suspect that Aliona could have extended the in hold part a few more bars and still have got the performance from Harry, but it did mean that his legacy also included the ability to perform, because he acted that role very well.

Great music from the band too - it will probably be the dance his children show to their friends at school.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aafV0V2n97k
Aw. Nostalgia And of course, 2 weeks after that, his AT, when he looked like a winner.

I'm glad Aliona got Jay, she's more than capable of really teaching him AND playing a long game for the TV audience. I really have very high expectations.
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Old 16-10-2015, 23:18
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Jay and Aliona's Jive was Superb
Watched it a multitude of times
Can't wait for their next dance 😄
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Old 16-10-2015, 23:37
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Right now I don't give a stuff what Aliona has done in the past (some of which has caused me to spit like a witch's cat with bad manners).

Thus far, she's playing a blinder with Jay and long may it continue...

This opinion may change...
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Old 17-10-2015, 00:02
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Still haven't stopped watching this at least 3 times a day.
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