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Old 12-10-2015, 09:10
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As much dance training as Jay?
Jill Halpenny had a lot of dance training as had Tom Chambers, Natalie Gumbede, Denise Van Outen, Kimberley Walsh, Caroline. A good few of the other contestants this year have had previous training, Helen, Georgia, Kellie, Peter, Katie to name a few. The show needs the spectacular as well as the journey contestants. Jay has a lot of work to do on his acting performance level. I believe his is genuinely shy and his Mother also always looks amazed and delighted for her son which is really sweet
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Old 12-10-2015, 09:35
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If you feel you have to punish the celebs with dancing experience by not voting for them, please, do so. Yes, it's unfair to those like Anthony or Iwan who started with no experience at all and did not get a chance to improve, but OTOH BBC want the programme to be entertaining from the beginning and it would not happen if all dances were mediocre at best.
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Old 12-10-2015, 09:39
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You can tell that Len is fed up with all the faffing around, props and bar a few, very little in the way of proper dance steps and actual time dancing together in hold.
The whole of SCD has deteriorated so badly and perhaps subtly over the last few seasons, it would be an eye opener to watch earlier ones when props were not de rigueur.
Anyway, what were we doing with a themed evening so early in this series? And in the main (a few exceptions, granted) the chosen music is dire and out of character with the dances. The Rumba is nonsensical but the Paso and Cha, Cha Cha are going the same
way.
Time for the axe I feel.
It seems to me that they are taking DWTS as one direction they can go to please viewers. There already has been a Burn the Floor redirection. The original Strictly style of celebs out of their comfort zone being tested at something new and the interaction with the pro while trying to achieve a clear and consistent target, has been fading since Series 6.

With Aliona, they have a pro who competed in 10 dance, worked at teaching dance from a young age, studied costume design and art, and just happens to be good at choreography and generating chemistry. The full package for the Classic style of Strictly while keeping it fresh. So yes he is a ringer, but he has been paired with a pro who is VERY good at the Strictly job.

Aliona also showed what she can do with a beginner like Harry and his parents acknowledged how amazing Harry's progress had been.
@ 9:05 in this..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GFrbl_AGko
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Old 12-10-2015, 13:48
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It doesnt play automatically on my timeline. It's over 3 million on facebook now.
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Old 12-10-2015, 13:53
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It doesnt play automatically on my timeline. It's over 3 million on facebook now.
Closing in rapidly on 300,000 on youtube
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Old 12-10-2015, 13:57
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Closing in rapidly on 300,000 on youtube


Think 277,000 of them are mine 😳😳😳😂
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Old 12-10-2015, 14:18
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Unfortunately it looks like one of the side effects of the recent BBC charter review has been that they've had to clamp down on region locking the Youtube content (to domestic countries covered by a licence fee) and impose content blocking on other countries.

Feel free to blame the government

(I genuinely wish the BBC was allowed to sell iplayer in the same way as netflix - month subscription to overseas folk - that should fix some of their money issues...)
Thanks. Got it now.
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Old 12-10-2015, 14:21
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It doesnt play automatically on my timeline. It's over 3 million on facebook now.
They play automatically on my iPad as I haven't changed the settings but not on my phone as I DID change the setting (uses extra phone data apparently) - Not sure whether desktop computers have automatic playback.

https://m.facebook.com/help/1406493312950827
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Old 12-10-2015, 14:21
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I'm going to sound like a nut now, but I honestly think there is something about the way it builds that is weirdly addictive. It starts quiet, gets good, gets very good and then suddenly goes into a bit that makes make me feel 'I've got to see that again.' Weird - goes off to watch it again...
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Old 12-10-2015, 14:24
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I'm going to sound like a nut now, but I honestly think there is something about the way it builds that is weirdly addictive. It starts quiet, gets good, gets very good and then suddenly goes into a bit that makes make me feel 'I've got to see that again.' Weird - goes off to watch it again...
It's easily my favourite jive ever on SCD. Their characterisation is spot on
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Old 12-10-2015, 14:25
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I'm going to sound like a nut now, but I honestly think there is something about the way it builds that is weirdly addictive. It starts quiet, gets good, gets very good and then suddenly goes into a bit that makes make me feel 'I've got to see that again.' Weird - goes off to watch it again...
Know exactly what you mean...very addictive.
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Old 12-10-2015, 14:29
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I'm going to sound like a nut now, but I honestly think there is something about the way it builds that is weirdly addictive. It starts quiet, gets good, gets very good and then suddenly goes into a bit that makes make me feel 'I've got to see that again.' Weird - goes off to watch it again...
Nope, get it completely, it's structured beautifully, the cool, disinterested beginning, gradually building until WHAM as Misirlou slams in, culminating in the stunning side by side bit.

Only just noticed, during the eye bit just before Misirlou, Jay flicks a Victory sign at Aliona (not that I've watched it a lot to notice stuff like this )
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Old 12-10-2015, 14:30
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I'm going to sound like a nut now, but I honestly think there is something about the way it builds that is weirdly addictive. It starts quiet, gets good, gets very good and then suddenly goes into a bit that makes make me feel 'I've got to see that again.' Weird - goes off to watch it again...
Yes !!! You perfectly described it. It kept getting better and better. ... building momentum.
Hats off to Aliona for that choreography
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Old 12-10-2015, 14:57
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Nope, get it completely, it's structured beautifully, the cool, disinterested beginning, gradually building until WHAM as Misirlou slams in, culminating in the stunning side by side bit.

Only just noticed, during the eye bit just before Misirlou, Jay flicks a Victory sign at Aliona (not that I've watched it a lot to notice stuff like this )
Thank goodness it's not just me . I'm waiting to get sick of the soundtrack but it just isn't happening.Missed the Victory sign - now I'll have to watch it again ......
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Old 12-10-2015, 15:04
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I'm going to sound like a nut now, but I honestly think there is something about the way it builds that is weirdly addictive. It starts quiet, gets good, gets very good and then suddenly goes into a bit that makes make me feel 'I've got to see that again.' Weird - goes off to watch it again...
Agreed, plus I think the orchestra was splendid.
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Old 12-10-2015, 15:07
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I am not surprised, it was one of the beat dances ever on SCD, hope Jay wins, with Linda Carter to come second. 😁
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Old 12-10-2015, 15:21
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Thank goodness it's not just me . I'm waiting to get sick of the soundtrack but it just isn't happening.Missed the Victory sign - now I'll have to watch it again ......
Never saw it myself....and just like you had to go back and watch it.

Say I not going to watch it again....but it is just like chocolate them more you have the more you want it.
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Old 12-10-2015, 15:25
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Never saw it myself....and just like you had to go back and watch it.

Say I not going to watch it again....but it is just like chocolate them more you have the more you want it.
Only spotted it on my second (that may be a lie ) viewing, but he does it right at the end of the eye swipey section (which I believe is the technical name for the move)
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Old 12-10-2015, 15:32
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Only spotted it on my second (that may be a lie ) viewing, but he does it right at the end of the eye swipey section (which I believe is the technical name for the move)
Yes got it , don't know how I could have missed it the first 125 times
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Old 12-10-2015, 15:41
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Nope, get it completely, it's structured beautifully, the cool, disinterested beginning, gradually building until WHAM as Misirlou slams in, culminating in the stunning side by side bit.

Only just noticed, during the eye bit just before Misirlou, Jay flicks a Victory sign at Aliona (not that I've watched it a lot to notice stuff like this )
Yep. I thought he just felt awkward during those little bits but then I realised (after watching it about 10x in 15 mins!) that it was part of the act. Which makes it even better.
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Old 12-10-2015, 16:55
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I think FB videos automatically play on your timeline unless you have the function disabled (or at least this used to be the case) - for saying that though I would think Jays jive would still have a massive amount of views even without the automatic playback. I *think* YT is a much more realistic viewing figure though.
By the bellow quotes I take it really depends, so my reservations were correct. That is why when I collect my data (just as a way of wasting time) I also count the likes and shares. Sometimes I will add the amount of comments, though those can not be quantify in a qualitative way as the others (they can be positive, negative, off topic...)

With Youtube Likes are equally as important. Anyone who has an account can only like once, yet you can view it many times. So the conversion rate between how many views it takes to get a like is also very interesting, qualifies the views.

It doesnt play automatically on my timeline. It's over 3 million on facebook now.
They play automatically on my iPad as I haven't changed the settings but not on my phone as I DID change the setting (uses extra phone data apparently) - Not sure whether desktop computers have automatic playback.

https://m.facebook.com/help/1406493312950827
Closing in rapidly on 300,000 on youtube
311,813 views
3,072 likes (100 views per likes, after Anita's 94 views per like but she has 18,078 views)
37 dislikes (which is the lowest % at 0.01% of viewers dislike it, compared to the highest that are Carol and Anthony with 0.21 %).
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Old 12-10-2015, 17:02
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Excuse my ignorance, but I only use Facebook to save my Candy Crush Saga progress, how do I find that video? All searches are coming back empty.
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Old 12-10-2015, 17:05
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Excuse my ignorance, but I only use Facebook to save my Candy Crush Saga progress, how do I find that video? All searches are coming back empty.
https://www.facebook.com/bbcstrictly?fref=ts and scroll down the page
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Old 12-10-2015, 17:13
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Thanks. I was there, but did not see anything. But I think I was not logged on then, that's probably why
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Old 12-10-2015, 17:34
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I'm going to sound like a nut now, but I honestly think there is something about the way it builds that is weirdly addictive. It starts quiet, gets good, gets very good and then suddenly goes into a bit that makes make me feel 'I've got to see that again.' Weird - goes off to watch it again...
No, you are absolutely right, once you watch it, you have to see it again, it's like a drug...I watched it 3 times in a row on FB yesterday...I think the thing about it is - it's fast and hypnotising...then the music changes and gets faster still and you find yourself just drawn in.

It's additively memorising I think hence the number of views/likes.
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