That was the trouble with him being on the show (well, one of them, anyway) - a compere should not get to decide what is and is not mentioned on a show - TPTB let him have way too much power.

Good for Tess.

I'm really not convinced that either Bruce or Tess would have the power to make that decision. They are presenting the show, not producing it.

I miss Brucie in a funny kind of a way but his time had definitely come.

His high point for me was him championing Ramps to be allowed to re-do the Salsa and his low point was his appalling behaviour when Harry Judd's friends cam on stage to congratulate him after he won.

I thought he looked dreadful in his message at Christmas and it made me quite sad.

As this is an unpopular opinions thread...

I don't think Ramprakash should have been allowed to re-do his salsa. Think he won the whole show on a bit of a cheat.

But then he was a bit of a cheat off-show as well.

Shappy, did you actually watch the dance? The mike wire of one dancer got attached to the other dancer - they couldn't pull apart and couldn't finish their routine.
Bruce made things worse by being unhelpful and shooing away the quick-witted technician girl who had rushed onto the floor to sort it out. God knows what Bruce was thinking - he certainly couldn't have sorted it. Very embarassing all round.

Yep, I did, I was in the SCD studio audience for it.

Other dancers have had mishaps and had to just lump it. Ola's strap snapped and her top almost fell off; she had to do a whole ballroom dance unable to use one hand as she was holding her top to stop it revealing her boob. They weren't allowed to repeat their dance.

Anyway, I know it's an unpopular opinion - that's why I posted it here.

So, according to you, they should have carried on dancing even though they couldn't separate in order to perform the steps correctly? <Or maybe Mark should have given the wire a jolly good tug and then we could have gasped i shock horror at how much of his partner's wardrobe might have come off with it.
Oh never mind, it's water under the bridge - it's just one more example of Bruce's incredibly ghastly compèring

They should have stopped and quickly tried to untangle themselves and then continue what was remaining of the dance, not just give up and ask to restart. As I said, Ola managed to continue with the very likely possibilty of her boob falling out on national TV and one arm completely out of action for the entire routine.

Anyway, I think this thread is supposed to be a safe haven from indignant sarcasm of someone else's opinion.

Which dance of Ola's was that Shappy?

If that's the Karen/ Ramps Salsa video - watch it again!

By the time Mr Me!Me!Me! Came on to the floor - the technician had already run on, untangled the wires and was trying to escape when Bruce came in, grabbed her and attempted to dance with her. His interaction with her was totally unnecessary, and meant the incident lasted longer than it needed to. Karen was already showing the panel what had happened, and as Bruce always refused to wear an earpiece, he wouldn't have been able to hear instructions from the production booth anyway. Presumably the floor manager had to come on to the floor where Bruce could see him, and give permission for the restart.

The whole incident would have been over much quicker without his interference - he was late to the party, and just trying to horn in on the action.

I thought that was Lilia - her strap went in one of her dances.

and very funny

Tess saying the singers' names occurred when Bruce was off sick for one show. So somebody - either Tess or TPTB or both - took advantage of his absence to include the names. Which suggests that Bruce was the reason that this had not happened before. Maybe he thought they should just be included in the general introduction of Dave Arch etc.

Interestingly Matthew Bourne has suggested on Twitter that the choreographers should also be acknowledged by name on Strictly.

BIB I really dont know why they dont do that. That way we can criticise them by name!

I hadn't realised that. I wasn't being facetious when I suggested that their contracts had changed. It must have made a big difference to their profiles to have their names used other than the generic "Dave Arch and his wonderful wonderful orchestra". I think if they started mentioning choreographers as well it would get a bit tedious!

The naming of the singers takes place on the main show. The choreographers should be mentioned after the pro routine which takes place on the results show.
It wouldn't get tedious.

I'd be ashamed to have my name attached to some of the awful pro routines that we had on this series!

Having said that, some of the couples when they have their chat with Claudia after their routine do acknowledge by name a particular choreographer who has helped them.

Apologies, I did mean Lilia, not Ola.

It was in Darren Gough and Lilia's Samba in their semi final. The judges were completely unsympathetic.

This thread talks about the fiasco.

Also the choreographers who assist with the specialist dances would get credit, like Ryan Francois who works on the show to choreograph Charlestons. Aliona mentioned him on ITT.

Any guest choreographers are included in the end credits. I guess if they announced their work on the show it would at least let us attach a name to a routine for sure

Claudia naming the pro dancers after the musical guest would be a start - occasionally she attempts it or goes for the halfway "our brilliant professional dancers", but half the time they just get ignored....

And I agree the choreographers should be mentioned - the pros seem to all try to ensure they mention Neil & Katya when they can, but it's usually on a brief ITT clip...

And at least some of them try to give Charleston / AT / Salsa choreographers credit on the main show - I remember Janette thanking Ryan Francois on the live Saturday show for her & Jake's Charleston last year.

Naming the choreographers would be good as it would be credit where credit's due. The problem may occur if pros are helping one another. Should Janette name Aljaz for her good ballroom routines?

Only if he names her for his Salsa routines!

The pros have never made any secret of helping each other out really, particularly Janette & Aljaz (which is understandable!).

Couldn't Ola just have let the strap go and called it promotion for her calendar?!
I never used to understand the 'poor Ola' vibe whenever she had a wardrobe malfunction (which happened so often I suspected her of doing a 'Janet') I had to block her and JJ from my Twitter feed cos I was fed up of seeing her boobs/arse! Not classy!!

Mark couldn't have carried on, that was the difference ... and it was a long time before the final so not sure how he won by cheating? Great dance and I'm glad we got to see it properly.

Thank you for the full explanation, Carol!! My memory of this comes back. So during the time they spent untangling the wires, the music kept on playing, so they were missing out oodles of dancing steps, hence request to retake - at least from the point where the trouble started.

Bruce's intervention was not funny but lamentable and rude to the technician.
But other people found it funny. That is where opinions can differ.
But no way to say Mark "cheated".