Well Davison was just a bit boring I will grant you that. But all the rest of the Classic crew could have served ham for England in the International Gammon Championships. Venusian Aikido anyone?

ive said it before I love Capaldi as an actor ..I just dont "get" him as the doctor. I thought smith was a great doctor tenant was good and Ecclestone was sadly short lived and would have liked to see a longer run

but Capaldi I just don't get it from the silly spoon fight against robin Hood ( so not what I was expecting from the "darker" doctor ) to sending a hologram back to the future (was there any reason explained why the doc looked like the ghosts that caused the threat why couldn't he just send the hologram of him looking normal ?)

I wouldn't mind if he was a darker doctor or grumpy or that crazy uncle type that is always drunk dancing at family parties I just wish the writers would make their mind up

im dying for a doctor saves the day with his zany brilliance ending and I for one cant remember one yet in the capaldi era ..again this isn't a slight on PC and more the writers and where/what they see the doctor being

I really don't like him as a doctor. He lacks that charisma and uniqueness I think the doctor needs. Don't get me wrong, he's a great actor and he makes the best of what he is given he just doesn't do it for me.
I don't like Clara either. There's no chemistry between them, I don't mean sexually, just there is something lacking.
It's not working for me.

Are you me? Couldn't agree more. There's something that's just not 'clicking', and it makes me feel bad, 'cos I can see everyone around me is enjoying his portrayal thoroughly. One of my friends, who has watched the show right from the start, thinks he's the best ever.

I agree. Some not great doctors but never really a I can't stand him one. For me the weaker ones were Peter Davidson, Sylvester McCoy (naff stories a fair bit though) and to some extent David Tennent) Although one of my favourite episodes is Curse of Fendrick with McCoy .

I think this has been a trend since MS - the writing seems to emphasise support characters rather than the Doctor. Amy Pond was a much stronger character in MS first Run and when Clara arrived I felt it almost transformed into the Clara show.

If I was uncharitable I would say its because Moffat is only interested in his creations and the Doctor gets short shrift as a result.

I actually think PCs Doctor could be great if the writing got better

Well that all comes down to your definition of "zany". I'd offer up Mummy on the Orient Express as possibly the best example of that. Nevertheless, his speech at the end of Flatline was terrific, his antics saved the day in Time Heist, and I'd say it was the Doctor's brilliance that saved the day in both two part stories this series, though not necessarily in a zany way.

I personally am really enjoying this slightly colder and more calculating Doctor, who still has time for a laugh and a slightly different sense of humour because that's still who the Doctor is.

I'd say Capaldi hits me in moments. There are moments where he is completely and utterly the Doctor and then others when I'm struggling a little bit. It took me a while to really get into the character, but so far he's been the best thing about Series 9 for me.

I think that if you think Capaldi is an awful Doctor, you don't really understand who the Doctor is. And you're a sad, humourless, fun-free, emotionless shell of a human being.

Weird. I think he's the most perfect Doctor in years. Utterly spot on. Exactly what the role needed at this time.

You seem to be blaming the actor for the writing. Its not Capaldi you don't "get" - it's the writing.

Not that I really understand why, given the examples you used I had no problem with. It's all a bit of fun at the end of the day, tempered with moments of great seriousness and pathos and drama.

David Tennant, was and is, very sexy and has a very powerful 'Bowie' like presence.
David Tennants portrayal of the doctor was engaging, exiting and convincing, he is funny and agile and good at fooling around.

The stories were great. Doomsday is a classic. The sets on doomsday are so atmospheric, the music was great too, while also at the same time becoming immersed emotionally by the story.

Matt Smith, is a one in a million actor, he has so much energy, the scene with Amy pond where he finds the fish fingers and custard and ensuing story arc is almost perfection, it is loaded with so much passion.

Clearly Moffet got a whole lot of things right, for he engaged me and that takes one hell of a lot to do, so hats off to the main writer.

Christopher Ecclestone, also has charisma, by the bucket load, quirky for sure but also like a mate down at the pub, he was superb.

But Peter Capaldi, I really wish he could do it but he cant seem to do it and clearly there are a lot of people who seem to have noticed this too, its just not right and not right by a long way.

Clara, some people say that Clara is irritating, where as Clara has always looked good, inside a Dalek. And she does, she looks amazing inside a dalek.

But once she is out of a Dalek with the exception of the snow men, she fails as she then becomes a prop.

The reason, she looks so good inside a Dalek is that she is stunningly attractive and the concept of having such an attractive babe stuck inside a dalek is a very strong meme, a juxtaposition as we all would want to save her.

Try to put an ugly inside a dalek and see if anyone would care.

Peter Capaldi, does not seem to be smart enough to be the Dr, for instance would it be possible to cast Peter Capaldi as spock, would it work?

Could Peter Capaldi play against Spock for instance, or Data ?

Could Tom Baker have played against Spock or Data?

Could David Tennant have played against Spock or Data?

Could Matt smith have played against Spock or Data?

Could Christopher Ecclestone have played against Spock or Data?

The answer is clearly : No,
Yes,
Yes,
Yes,
Yes.

Sounds like my last work appraisal.

I think he's okay but too often I see 'Peter Capaldi' and not 'the Doctor', which isn't something I felt with Tennant or Smith.

10 out of 10 for complete waffle.

Something has clearly gone tits up because they have even axed the BBC3 Friday repeat
Only time will tell who or what gets the blame but with them plugging the show like mad then axing the repeats. It was still number 6 on Iplayer Monday morning (unlike the previous episodes that were number 1 by Sunday morning)

But Capaldi with his shades and guitar has a powerful 'Lou Reed' like presence. Whether or not he is sexy is for women and gay men to decide, but is totally irrelevant as to whether or not he is is great Doctor, which he undoubtedly is.

Well, I always thought it was 'Loo reed', ass it goes but that's just me. Perhaps if Peter was ten or twenty years younger then, perhaps but who nose.

I just don't understand PC's doctor sometimes he does things that contradicts his chracter and I'm like wtf

What sort of things? Hard to engage in discussion if nobody knows what you mean

I'd never seen Smith before Who, so that was never going to happen.

Whereas with Tennant I very often saw just David Tennant gurning a lot.

With Capaldi you'd think I'd see Malcolm Tucker in the TARDIS, but surprisingly I don't at all. I see a complex man embodying everything I've always loved about the Doctor - rebellion, mystery, drama, excitement, silliness, fun, curiosity, and more.

This last splurge of Trek gobbledegook is just... I mean... Huh?

Also I love how you reduced an actress's talent to "Do I want to **** her?"

Pathetic, sexist, demeaning AND nonsense, all in one post! Brilliant stuff.

Hmmmmmm.

I was about to post something similar. The fact that he has already been in Dr Who and Torchwood I have gotten over now.
He doesn't quite work for me. Don't know if its because I am too familiar with him in other stuff. Or just simply a good actor who doesn't fit. As with John Simm doing the Master.
I think he is a step in the right direction from Matt Smith. No one will equal Tom Baker for me.

Tennant remains the best portrayal of the Doctor for me, but Capaldi is a very close second, despite being the polar opposite in terms of style.

Matt Smith, while a fantastic actor who clearly gave the role his all, simply didn't do it for me. I'm willing to accept that part of this is down to Moffat's writing - I'm sure I'm in the minority here but I think the last two seasons have been structurally much stronger than the Matt Smith seasons in terms of writing - but Smith's biggest problem as far as I'm concerned was that I never bought into a sense of threat with him in the lead role. A little too quirky for my tastes.

I find that it's the writing that makes the Doctor. Give a great actor a good script and he can run with it and take it places the writer never thought of. I mean look at when 10 said goodbye to Rose. A good lot of why that was so good was to do with two wonderful actors giving their all to the script. And the fact a lot of it wasn't spoken it was the emotion and the way they looked. It was acting with the eyes and putting their feelings on show. Moffat can and has written some great episodes. The Girl in the fireplace and the 50th special. But when he took over as head writer when RTD left he wanted to stamp his mark on the show in a kind of a new broom sweeps clean kind of way. Back when RTD wrote it it had heart,it was funny,it was sad it had stories we understood,,it even had a love story that was written so well that adults got it and the kids did too but on a different leavel and he managed this all before 9pm when this kind of thing is on TV. What Moffat has done has changed all that. He likes to write bossy women that take over the show and leaves the Doctor as second in the show when it's his show. He has removed the heart from it and replaced that with plots that are so clever that few get or understand whats going on take last weeks and the Boot strp thing. And he wrote one of the worst serieses for Peter last year. We need to see more of the Doctor taking over the show, we need to stop this playing the guitar, give him a script he can get his teeth into. We don't want all this showy stuff. Just give Peter a story to get him acting so he can show he can act well and then let him stamp his mark on the Doctor. I'm sure he will be a good Doctor but he needs the writting and soon.