Prefer Vana to that lovely British candidate Katie Hopkins ...
Why is there an American in it?
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Originally Posted by george.millman:
“Why is it a problem, if they got on it fair and square?
I have no issue with British nationals appearing on international editions as well, so long as they were living and working in that country.”
“Why is it a problem, if they got on it fair and square?
I have no issue with British nationals appearing on international editions as well, so long as they were living and working in that country.”
A Brit won the 5th season of the US version
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Yazbeck
Americans grow up with stilted, scripted TV where screaming and shouting at each other is the norm - all because they believe it makes "good TV". As long as they don't behave like that on the UK formats, I don't really care where they come from.
I like to be entertained as much as anyone, but forcing arguments like the Americans do on their shows really isn't entertaining, it just makes them look desperate. Too tacky for my taste, but it's already seeping through on a couple of our reality shows. I expect to start seeing those "some of this has been recorded for your entertainment" messages that the Americans have popping up soon.
That's because they are PC, the BBC admit it themselves, they don't see it as a bad thing. And in many ways, it's not a 'bad' thing, it's just contrived. We need a muslim, we need a refugee, we need a homosexual... it shouldn't be a box ticking exercise when it comes to casting for these things - they should simply choose the best. "Have they got talent?", "Have they got personality?" are the sort of questions that need asking, not "have you had a sex change because we really want a transgender this year to prove we're diverse".
I like to be entertained as much as anyone, but forcing arguments like the Americans do on their shows really isn't entertaining, it just makes them look desperate. Too tacky for my taste, but it's already seeping through on a couple of our reality shows. I expect to start seeing those "some of this has been recorded for your entertainment" messages that the Americans have popping up soon.
Originally Posted by firefly_irl:
“Agree, same when people say the bake-off is too PC, a whole group of 50+ women from the WI would not make an interesting reality show.”
“Agree, same when people say the bake-off is too PC, a whole group of 50+ women from the WI would not make an interesting reality show.”
That's because they are PC, the BBC admit it themselves, they don't see it as a bad thing. And in many ways, it's not a 'bad' thing, it's just contrived. We need a muslim, we need a refugee, we need a homosexual... it shouldn't be a box ticking exercise when it comes to casting for these things - they should simply choose the best. "Have they got talent?", "Have they got personality?" are the sort of questions that need asking, not "have you had a sex change because we really want a transgender this year to prove we're diverse".
In the very first series there was at least one contestant who was not British born.
Adenike Ogundoyin from the first series was Nigerian.
I just found out that she died 4 years ago.
http://adenike-ogundoyinayanbadejo.m...com/About.aspx
Was it ever mentioned on here?
There have quite possibly been foreign nationals in every single series.
Adenike Ogundoyin from the first series was Nigerian.
I just found out that she died 4 years ago.
http://adenike-ogundoyinayanbadejo.m...com/About.aspx
Was it ever mentioned on here?
There have quite possibly been foreign nationals in every single series.
Originally Posted by Reserved:
“That's because they are PC, the BBC admit it themselves, they don't see it as a bad thing. And in many ways, it's not a 'bad' thing, it's just contrived. We need a muslim, we need a refugee, we need a homosexual... it shouldn't be a box ticking exercise when it comes to casting for these things - they should simply choose the best. "Have they got talent?", "Have they got personality?" are the sort of questions that need asking, not "have you had a sex change because we really want a transgender this year to prove we're diverse".”
“That's because they are PC, the BBC admit it themselves, they don't see it as a bad thing. And in many ways, it's not a 'bad' thing, it's just contrived. We need a muslim, we need a refugee, we need a homosexual... it shouldn't be a box ticking exercise when it comes to casting for these things - they should simply choose the best. "Have they got talent?", "Have they got personality?" are the sort of questions that need asking, not "have you had a sex change because we really want a transgender this year to prove we're diverse".”
The main criterion you've missed is will they make good TV. You don't seriously think the BBC picks the most gifted applicants for this show do you? You'd just have 18 business school graduates with top company experience. A range of ages and backgrounds makes it much more interesting.
ITV do exactly the same with their reality shows but it's always the BBC that people blame for being too PC. It's more about equal opportunities than PC anyway. Imagine if they only had white British people in such shows. Even if only the white contestants had been judged good enough it would be very hard for them to argue that they hadn't been able to find a non-white contestant with equivalent skills.
I would also imagine that the BBC don't want to appear to be racist or homophobic. Picking a group of white straight people would make it look that way even if they were the best auditionees.
Originally Posted by Millie Muppet:
“Felipe:Colombian
Steven: Canadian
Paloma: Aussie
etc etc
Get a grip ffs.”
“Felipe:Colombian
Steven: Canadian
Paloma: Aussie
etc etc
Get a grip ffs.”
Stands up and applauds.....
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“In the very first series there was at least one contestant who was not British born.
Adenike Ogundoyin from the first series was Nigerian.
I just found out that she died 4 years ago.
http://adenike-ogundoyinayanbadejo.m...com/About.aspx
Was it ever mentioned on here?
There have quite possibly been foreign nationals in every single series.”
“In the very first series there was at least one contestant who was not British born.
Adenike Ogundoyin from the first series was Nigerian.
I just found out that she died 4 years ago.
http://adenike-ogundoyinayanbadejo.m...com/About.aspx
Was it ever mentioned on here?
There have quite possibly been foreign nationals in every single series.”
It is known on here, but it wasn't known for quite a while after it happened because it wasn't reported in any UK press.
She and Stuart Baggs are the only former candidates who have passed away. RIP
Originally Posted by Reserved:
“Americans grow up with stilted, scripted TV where screaming and shouting at each other is the norm - all because they believe it makes "good TV". As long as they don't behave like that on the UK formats, I don't really care where they come from.
I like to be entertained as much as anyone, but forcing arguments like the Americans do on their shows really isn't entertaining, it just makes them look desperate. Too tacky for my taste, but it's already seeping through on a couple of our reality shows. I expect to start seeing those "some of this has been recorded for your entertainment" messages that the Americans have popping up soon.”
“Americans grow up with stilted, scripted TV where screaming and shouting at each other is the norm - all because they believe it makes "good TV". As long as they don't behave like that on the UK formats, I don't really care where they come from.
I like to be entertained as much as anyone, but forcing arguments like the Americans do on their shows really isn't entertaining, it just makes them look desperate. Too tacky for my taste, but it's already seeping through on a couple of our reality shows. I expect to start seeing those "some of this has been recorded for your entertainment" messages that the Americans have popping up soon.”
We haven't seen enough of Vana to be able to say either way yet (she seems to have sense, but she is quite loud) but in fairness I didn't think that Kimberly from Series 5 was like that. Apart from the one occasion on which she shouted, 'I'm going to have this fight! You want to see me with balls? I'm going to give you balls right now!', she was generally quite chilled and calmly spoken, if I remember correctly. I quite liked her.
Originally Posted by Eve Elle:
“And people say DS isn't xenophobic... *rolleyes*”
“And people say DS isn't xenophobic... *rolleyes*”
But you FMs are usually very nice to me - am I not welcome???
Originally Posted by Lurifax:
“But you FMs are usually very nice to me - am I not welcome??? ”
“But you FMs are usually very nice to me - am I not welcome???
”
You're very welcome!
The Apprentice forums are quite possibly the friendliest forums on Digital Spy. We had a discussion about it a while ago. There are some forums on here where people are resoundingly negative all the time, and sometimes quite unpleasant to each other with it. We generally have none of that here. We have differing opinions, sure, but everyone respects them and understands the concept of mature and reasonable debate. Generally I really like everyone on here, it's a really pleasant atmosphere.
Originally Posted by george.millman:
“You're very welcome!”
“You're very welcome!”
Thank you, Mr M! I found lots of old friends from BB and CBB here - stupid me, didn't think to come here on Wednesday. And no one much to talk to up here in the frozen north about the howling donkeys that make up the Apprentice.
Originally Posted by Reserved:
“Americans grow up with stilted, scripted TV where screaming and shouting at each other is the norm - all because they believe it makes "good TV". As long as they don't behave like that on the UK formats, I don't really care where they come from.
I like to be entertained as much as anyone, but forcing arguments like the Americans do on their shows really isn't entertaining, it just makes them look desperate. Too tacky for my taste, but it's already seeping through on a couple of our reality shows. I expect to start seeing those "some of this has been recorded for your entertainment" messages that the Americans have popping up soon”
“Americans grow up with stilted, scripted TV where screaming and shouting at each other is the norm - all because they believe it makes "good TV". As long as they don't behave like that on the UK formats, I don't really care where they come from.
I like to be entertained as much as anyone, but forcing arguments like the Americans do on their shows really isn't entertaining, it just makes them look desperate. Too tacky for my taste, but it's already seeping through on a couple of our reality shows. I expect to start seeing those "some of this has been recorded for your entertainment" messages that the Americans have popping up soon”
Very few American shows have that disclaimer, if anything British ones do like TOWIE.
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“That's because they are PC, the BBC admit it themselves, they don't see it as a bad thing. And in many ways, it's not a 'bad' thing, it's just contrived. We need a muslim, we need a refugee, we need a homosexual... it shouldn't be a box ticking exercise when it comes to casting for these things - they should simply choose the best. "Have they got talent?", "Have they got personality?" are the sort of questions that need asking, not "have you had a sex change because we really want a transgender this year to prove we're diverse".”
“That's because they are PC, the BBC admit it themselves, they don't see it as a bad thing. And in many ways, it's not a 'bad' thing, it's just contrived. We need a muslim, we need a refugee, we need a homosexual... it shouldn't be a box ticking exercise when it comes to casting for these things - they should simply choose the best. "Have they got talent?", "Have they got personality?" are the sort of questions that need asking, not "have you had a sex change because we really want a transgender this year to prove we're diverse".”
You call it box ticking I call it diversity and a diverse range of people is better than a bunch of people who are all the same as each other for drama purposes and that is all the Apprentice really is, a reality show and I'm sure the producer cast maybe 5 or 6 for their business plans and the others for entertainment reasons.
Isn't Vana related to Janice from Friends?! I think with her catchphrase she unwittingly invented the more recent and daft idea of a full-stop after every word in a sentence, but actually spoke it like that. "OH. MY. GOD."
Originally Posted by firefly_irl:
“You call it box ticking I call it diversity and a diverse range of people is better than a bunch of people who are all the same as each other for drama purposes and that is all the Apprentice really is, a reality show and I'm sure the producer cast maybe 5 or 6 for their business plans and the others for entertainment reasons.”
“You call it box ticking I call it diversity and a diverse range of people is better than a bunch of people who are all the same as each other for drama purposes and that is all the Apprentice really is, a reality show and I'm sure the producer cast maybe 5 or 6 for their business plans and the others for entertainment reasons.”
Why do we talk about 'serious business people' and 'entertaining people' as if they are mutually exclusive? The aim of the show is surely to provide candidates who are both entertaining and credible businesspeople. This has been the way right back as far as Saira Khan, who was one of the most memorable candidates of all-time, complete television gold, but also a very intelligent woman who got to the final on merit. Most of the candidates on it are very successful in their outside ventures. Even Sarah Dales, who had easily the worst edit on the show of all time, ran a successful hypnotherapy practice in Harley Street before she was on the show. I like to think that most of the candidates are chosen because they have a combination of both skills and entertainment.
Originally Posted by george.millman:
“Doing that wouldn't be very diverse though, would it? There need to be candidates with varieties of different backgrounds - if they were all from the same location, that would be a bit odd.”
“Doing that wouldn't be very diverse though, would it? There need to be candidates with varieties of different backgrounds - if they were all from the same location, that would be a bit odd.”
They should do a few a year from different regions on the UK - Birmingham, Liverpool, Newcastle, Cornwall, Essex.
Originally Posted by Mark in Essex:
“They should do a few a year from different regions on the UK - Birmingham, Liverpool, Newcastle, Cornwall, Essex.”
“They should do a few a year from different regions on the UK - Birmingham, Liverpool, Newcastle, Cornwall, Essex.
”
I don't think that would really work for this kind of show.
Originally Posted by Mark in Essex:
“They should do a few a year from different regions on the UK - Birmingham, Liverpool, Newcastle, Cornwall, Essex.”
“They should do a few a year from different regions on the UK - Birmingham, Liverpool, Newcastle, Cornwall, Essex.
”
The smell what sells task in Essex will just be load a van up with fake tan and flog it, a bit easy if you ask me
And as to diversity if we truly wanted a fully diverse set of races/sex/genders and what not it'd probably take about 500 years a series with all the possible combinations and probably it'd take half of each episode with the ultra feminist man hater shouting "they're raping me" the moment a male appears in her eyesight
Originally Posted by Maxatoria:
“The smell what sells task in Essex will just be load a van up with fake tan and flog it, a bit easy if you ask me
And as to diversity if we truly wanted a fully diverse set of races/sex/genders and what not it'd probably take about 500 years a series with all the possible combinations and probably it'd take half of each episode with the ultra feminist man hater shouting "they're raping me" the moment a male appears in her eyesight”
“The smell what sells task in Essex will just be load a van up with fake tan and flog it, a bit easy if you ask me
And as to diversity if we truly wanted a fully diverse set of races/sex/genders and what not it'd probably take about 500 years a series with all the possible combinations and probably it'd take half of each episode with the ultra feminist man hater shouting "they're raping me" the moment a male appears in her eyesight”
We've already had one candidate who wasn't fully human. Jaz Ampaw-Farr from Series 9 was half-machine. And she was fired first. Bit machinist if you ask me.
Originally Posted by firefly_irl:
“She lives in Barcelona according to her profile on the site so like the Irish candidates who've been on it and I think lived in Ireland she qualifies by virtue of EU resident.
Honestly who cares really as long as the show is entertaining and Vana is probably going to be a vocal character.”
“She lives in Barcelona according to her profile on the site so like the Irish candidates who've been on it and I think lived in Ireland she qualifies by virtue of EU resident.
Honestly who cares really as long as the show is entertaining and Vana is probably going to be a vocal character.”
Irish candidates ARE of the EU, whereas Americans aren't, and have to have Residency Permits.
Here's a link on it...
http://spain.angloinfo.com/moving/re...-eu-nationals/
Originally Posted by Abiix:
“Just the title of this thread and how many people replied cracks me up tbh..”
“Just the title of this thread and how many people replied cracks me up tbh..”
You're lucky it wasn't the migrants clamouring to get here, seeing other nations can come here for free, and be on telly at same time.
Originally Posted by gingerjack:
“Its called Multi cultural Britain”
“Its called Multi cultural Britain”
But her stay here is short, and being on the Apprentice won't tell her much re UK culture.
Last edited by Dix : 21-10-2015 at 19:36
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