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Old 21-10-2015, 16:43
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If the majority started to use this amount of data then 4G could easily rival fibre for broadband....but is the system (and backhaul etc.) up to doing this?
If it isn't, why are they doing these promo SIM deals? Wouldn't 10 or 20GB free be enough for most people?

I'm now looking at 2017 for FTTC broadband thanks to BT's incompetence, so a mobile broadband solution is my only way for fast Internet - and I'd pay for a decent allowance.

BTW I got mine this morning. Hope I get the second soon, which then pretty much covers me into March.

It's mad I'm able to do this for £20!
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Old 21-10-2015, 16:55
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Got mine today as well that's Xmas round the girlfriends sorted as her WiFi is rubbish!
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Old 21-10-2015, 20:02
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If the majority started to use this amount of data then 4G could easily rival fibre for broadband....but is the system (and backhaul etc.) up to doing this?
Even if the system is capable, EE would probably charge nearly £100 a month for 100GB, so people would much prefer landline broadband which is nearer £35 a month for unlimited data.
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Old 22-10-2015, 00:48
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I don't think this is a terrible idea. I was on Three which is awful in my area (still can't get 4g) and I got one of these SIMs last Autumn. I was so impressed with the speed and 4g coverage that I cancelled my rolling Three sim and moved to EE on boxing day 2014.

It worked on me, and no I don't need 100gb of data a month. I use around 1gb of data a week.
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Old 22-10-2015, 08:29
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Even if the system is capable, EE would probably charge nearly £100 a month for 100GB, so people would much prefer landline broadband which is nearer £35 a month for unlimited data.
£100 would be too much. Look around the world where 4G is sold for home broadband use and prices are lower than that, and allowances are often higher.

For whatever reason, EE doesn't seem to want to progress the EE Home offering, which again makes me wonder why they tease people with all this data but never introduce something people can pay for.

If it is just to compete with Vodafone's unlimited data for the first few months, then give it to everyone and not just a promo SIM.

I do wonder if given how many are given out, and encouraging people to splurge, is actually a trick to boost their 4G subscriber numbers and also increase the monthly average for data usage. Each SIM will stay valid for around 6 months and it's clear many people got multiple SIM cards and it was/is dead easy to get more per household than they say is allowed.
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Old 22-10-2015, 10:44
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I've used each of these offers has they come round.

Use in about 4 devices on the go....so in effect they take 40 pounds off me, which for 4 sims I am happy to pay for the speed it gives me.

But why do they keep doing this ? I would be happy to pay 50'pounds per month for a 100gb data sim each month
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Old 22-10-2015, 13:34
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I've been invited to an event hosted by Olaf next week, talking about EE's vision for a 4G connected future so it's going to be one of the questions I hope to ask (if appropriate).
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Old 22-10-2015, 13:58
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£100 would be too much. Look around the world where 4G is sold for home broadband use and prices are lower than that, and allowances are often higher.
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You are right. I do a lot of work in Kenya with cellcomms and the biggest provider out there (Safaricom) has just introduced a home STB called the Big Box, and the data plans for this (LTE data) include one with 50GB for about £25 per month. I am using one of these to drive a network with about 20 computers on it. I typically get about 35Mbits, not quite like my VM at home, but pretty respectable for Africa.
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Old 22-10-2015, 14:11
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I wonder why EE (or indeed any) network isn't interested in doing a home broadband offering, with a fixed (but generous) allowance? Is it purely down to capacity issues?

Clearly if you planned to do this properly, you'd know that you'd be getting £25-50 a month (or whatever) and use that revenue to invest in more capacity and smaller cells - with added benefits for mobile users.

Scandinavia, where a lot of people have summer houses in rural areas, is very reliant on mobile broadband (or should I say, increasingly people are opting to go for mobile broadband than have a fixed line they don't need for nn months a year) - hence all the operators offer some form of LTE router with a decent data allowance per month, and not for ridiculous money if you compare against the cost of fixed broadband and the need for a phone line (£15-20 a month) that most people don't even want.

Maybe this plan is on hold pending the BT buyout. I guess EE isn't going to answer any questions like that though.
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Old 22-10-2015, 15:28
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I wonder why EE (or indeed any) network isn't interested in doing a home broadband offering, with a fixed (but generous) allowance? Is it purely down to capacity issues?
It could be the cost for the network, rather than potential network congestion problems?. In the One Plan ending thread, people said it costs Three nearly £1 per GB for capacity on the cell site.
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Old 22-10-2015, 15:33
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I've seen home broadband on tele2 se with 100GB for about £30 a month. If a network launched that kind of deal here I imagine it would be fairly popular haha.
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Old 22-10-2015, 15:40
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i'll get one of these SIMs and then chuck it in the bin after just like I did with the others. I guess that's what the majority of people do.... Do they really think people want 100GB for such a low price and then switch down to 1GB for the same price? Stop with these stupid 100GB promos and make your plans more affordable.

People are better off going with BT Mobile. Better value and same coverage. 30Mbps down and 20Mbps up is enough on a mobile device, even when tethering.
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Old 22-10-2015, 17:09
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EE have made a right balls up of this. Those sims that have been sent out this week cannot be registered with the offer. Text christmas100 to 150 and you get a text back saying that they are working on fixing it.

I got a text yesterday lunch time saying it would be fixed in 24 hours... still waiting....
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Old 23-10-2015, 08:42
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I wonder why EE (or indeed any) network isn't interested in doing a home broadband offering, with a fixed (but generous) allowance? Is it purely down to capacity issues?
I think it comes down to Line Rental on conventional ADSL / Fibre. I know quite a few people who have ADSL / Fibre at home, but thanks to copious minutes and texts offered by mobile service providers they rarely, if ever use their landline for calls, and so really begrudge paying their service provider £16+ / month line rental, just to get broadband.

If EE, or any other mobile provider offered a reasonably priced alternative to ADSL / Fibre they would be swamped with people, who want a line rental free internet connection at home cheerfully cancelling their landlines, and signing up.

The only way it would work, would be for them to offer it only to subscribers in Postcodes known to have poor / no ADSL but I suspect the cost and logistics of a 'look up' system to check the ADSL speeds of the customers' postcode at sign up would make that prohibitive.

A lot of people in our area used Mobile Broadband as an alternative to rural 512k ADSL, in fact it was thinly suggested to us at a local meeting when the BT rep admitted they were unlikely to bring decent ADSL speeds to the area ("decent" being set at 2mbps!!), and 12 months later, when most households here were using 3G, the speeds from 3 and EE held up fine and I never saw less than 10mbps tethered on the One Plan even in peak times, and now we have 4G from EE its even better!.

However, whilst it may easily cope with 20 - 25 well scattered households in a rural area, I suspect it wouldn't manage in London or Manchester, if thousands of households began using it as a line rental free broadband connection, as opposed to a substitute for unusable broadband.
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Old 23-10-2015, 09:11
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EE have made a right balls up of this. Those sims that have been sent out this week cannot be registered with the offer. Text christmas100 to 150 and you get a text back saying that they are working on fixing it.

I got a text yesterday lunch time saying it would be fixed in 24 hours... still waiting....
I got mine to work eventually but doing a top up was as always too difficult. Trying out EE again as Three seem to be taking an age to improve
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Old 23-10-2015, 09:52
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Last weekend I ordered a 100gb sim from EE and still no confirmation email and no sim through the post.

Could the problem be that I ordered in the weekend when offices are closed?

This is the first time I have had problems because the easter and summer 100gb sim cards came instanly through the post within a couple of days. Oh well I guess I am not missing anything if people are having problems registering them to get 100gb in the first place.
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Old 23-10-2015, 10:37
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Last weekend I ordered a 100gb sim from EE and still no confirmation email and no sim through the post.

Could the problem be that I ordered in the weekend when offices are closed?

This is the first time I have had problems because the easter and summer 100gb sim cards came instanly through the post within a couple of days. Oh well I guess I am not missing anything if people are having problems registering them to get 100gb in the first place.
I ordered one last weekend, it arrived on Wednesday.
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Old 23-10-2015, 13:54
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I think it comes down to Line Rental on conventional ADSL / Fibre. I know quite a few people who have ADSL / Fibre at home, but thanks to copious minutes and texts offered by mobile service providers they rarely, if ever use their landline for calls, and so really begrudge paying their service provider £16+ / month line rental, just to get broadband.

If EE, or any other mobile provider offered a reasonably priced alternative to ADSL / Fibre they would be swamped with people, who want a line rental free internet connection at home cheerfully cancelling their landlines, and signing up.
Broadband without requiring a phone line already exists though, with Virgin Media. I think Virgin Media is only available to about 50% of homes, but it still means about half the country can get it.

Also, if EE or another mobile provider offered a reasonably priced alternative to ADSL / Fibre, it wouldn't provide unlimited data, so I don't think loads of people would be cheerfully cancelling their landlines to sign up.
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Old 23-10-2015, 22:47
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I wonder why EE (or indeed any) network isn't interested in doing a home broadband offering, with a fixed (but generous) allowance? Is it purely down to capacity issues?

Clearly if you planned to do this properly, you'd know that you'd be getting £25-50 a month (or whatever) and use that revenue to invest in more capacity and smaller cells - with added benefits for mobile users.

Scandinavia, where a lot of people have summer houses in rural areas, is very reliant on mobile broadband (or should I say, increasingly people are opting to go for mobile broadband than have a fixed line they don't need for nn months a year) - hence all the operators offer some form of LTE router with a decent data allowance per month, and not for ridiculous money if you compare against the cost of fixed broadband and the need for a phone line (£15-20 a month) that most people don't even want.

Maybe this plan is on hold pending the BT buyout. I guess EE isn't going to answer any questions like that though.
EE already do home broadband or am i missing something?

https://broadband.ee.co.uk/home.do
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Old 23-10-2015, 22:57
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Home MOBILE broadband, using a Huawei 4G router with EE mobile broadband SIM, rather than fixed line broadband.

This is what EE soft launched and didn't appear to do anything with. You can't order it online, for example.

Given my ADSL is around 6Mbps and 4G is 100, you can see why I'd rather like EE to offer me mobile broadband for use at home (i.e. larger allowances than currently available).

I did actually sign up for ADSL with EE today, after deciding to ditch TalkTalk in light of their third hack, and hope that BT will soon enable me for fibre. Perhaps then I won't be so bothered about mobile broadband, but I'm looking at an activation date of 2017!
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Old 26-10-2015, 21:23
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Has anyone tried simply topping up say, one of the summer SIMs and then sending the Christmas trigger SMS ?
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Old 26-10-2015, 22:05
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Remember Relish/UK Broadband Limited offer unlimited 4G home broadband in central London (coverage) for £20/month. They have 2 x 20 MHz blocks of 3.4 GHz spectrum, which is less than EE have for 4G across 800/1800/2600, so I'm not sure why EE couldn't offer something similar? That said Relish's website claims they have 6x20Mhz blocks, so maybe they actually have more than EE? A lot of other sites say 2 x 20Mhz so I'm not sure.
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Old 26-10-2015, 23:39
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Remember Relish/UK Broadband Limited offer unlimited 4G home broadband in central London (coverage) for £20/month. They have 2 x 20 MHz blocks of 3.4 GHz spectrum, which is less than EE have for 4G across 800/1800/2600, so I'm not sure why EE couldn't offer something similar? That said Relish's website claims they have 6x20Mhz blocks, so maybe they actually have more than EE? A lot of other sites say 2 x 20Mhz so I'm not sure.
According to this article they have 124MHz of band 42 and 43. So 6x20MHz sounds right.

UK Broadband is the UK's largest commercial holder of national radio spectrum suitable for 4G mobile services and fixed wireless solutions. We have 124MHz of spectrum in international LTE bands 42 and 43 (3.GHz and 3.6GHz), as well as additional spectrum suitable for high-capacity point-to-point and point-to-multipoint services in the 3.9GHz, 28GHz and 40GHz bands.
http://www.ukbroadband.com/about-us/business-profile
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Old 27-10-2015, 13:59
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Remember Relish/UK Broadband Limited offer unlimited 4G home broadband in central London (coverage) for £20/month. They have 2 x 20 MHz blocks of 3.4 GHz spectrum, which is less than EE have for 4G across 800/1800/2600, so I'm not sure why EE couldn't offer something similar? That said Relish's website claims they have 6x20Mhz blocks, so maybe they actually have more than EE? A lot of other sites say 2 x 20Mhz so I'm not sure.
How can Relish afford to provide 4g with unlimited data for £20/month? Is it because it's only available to people in central London?

The word was in the One Plan thread that aside from network congestion issues, mobile data is too expensive for Three to continue providing unlimited tethering.
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Old 27-10-2015, 15:40
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I mentioned here in the past that 3 Ireland have a 60GB per month 3G/4G data package for roughly £30, they now have even bigger allowances, 100GB for around £40 and 250GB for around £50!

http://www.three.ie/eshop/broadband-...pay-broadband/

Really wish 3's UK arm or EE would pull their finger out to offer packages like these.
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