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Old 19-10-2015, 16:38
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They have the salsa this week
If they both managed to do a commandable job then I will say that they have a very good chance of getting to the finals; this dance might be a good test.
If he wants to get to the final, and is serious about winning, then he needs to enlist a choreographer that can teach them both an exciting routine. His Latin choreography is certainly lacking and I think the SCD winner should be able to master both latin and ballroom confidently. Katie has real potential, he shouldn't waste the opportunity.
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Old 19-10-2015, 18:48
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If he wants to get to the final, and is serious about winning, then he needs to enlist a choreographer that can teach them both an exciting routine. His Latin choreography is certainly lacking and I think the SCD winner should be able to master both latin and ballroom confidently. Katie has real potential, he shouldn't waste the opportunity.
All the pros except Janette use an outside choreographer for salsa so it's a given that he won't choreograph the salsa. I believe this is an amazing draw for Anton - after this week, if the usual pattern of being able to pass on one dance is followed, he will not have to do any other party Latin.
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Old 19-10-2015, 19:10
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Oh dear, it's a salsa. A potential darnce disarster. They have gone from 20 points to 33 and it will be no surprise if it's close to the lower figure again. Fingers crossed they can keep out of the dance off but if they have pretensions about doing really well (not beating Jay but making the final) they have to be looking at more consistent marks and that means 28+ for the latin.
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Old 19-10-2015, 19:27
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On ITT Anton revealed they were freestyling at the end of their VW. He'd spoken to Dave Arch about speeding up the music near the end, but all he told Katie was if he told her to keep going, that's what she had to do. She was doing so well near then end, so he ditched the planned choreography and told her to keep going. So she did. Brilliant.

Katie and Anton could win. Yes, his Ballroom is stronger than his Latin, but as long as he doesn't have a Latin disaster, most of the viewing public won't notice. His popularity teamed with her ability could easily get them to the final.
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Old 19-10-2015, 21:05
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On ITT Anton revealed they were freestyling at the end of their VW. He'd spoken to Dave Arch about speeding up the music near the end, but all he told Katie was if he told her to keep going, that's what she had to do. She was doing so well near then end, so he ditched the planned choreography and told her to keep going. So she did. Brilliant.

Katie and Anton could win. Yes, his Ballroom is stronger than his Latin, but as long as he doesn't have a Latin disaster, most of the viewing public won't notice. His popularity teamed with her ability could easily get them to the final.

I really want to see what a Anton's showdance would look like
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Old 19-10-2015, 21:15
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Have they been doing alternate styles for all the couples? I suspect a few have had a couple of Latin in a row?
Jamelia I think has had Cha-cha, Salsa, Charleston in a row? Okay the last isn't strictly latin but only Strictly latin. But they don't usually go that long without a proper ballroom dance?
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Old 19-10-2015, 21:29
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Coincidentally, all the eliminated Pro's so far are Latin specialists.
Surely TPTB could get one of them to help out Anton ???
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Old 20-10-2015, 14:31
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Unfortunately, there are three issues with their latin dances, getting some decent choreography, trying to get the best out of Katie but the biggest problem is that Anton looks a complete shambles himself. None of the other professionals have that problem. If another celebrity was struggling the professional might do their best to cover it up. That doesn't happen with Anton as he just makes things look even worse. It is a major disadvantage.
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Old 20-10-2015, 15:00
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On ITT Anton revealed they were freestyling at the end of their VW. He'd spoken to Dave Arch about speeding up the music near the end, but all he told Katie was if he told her to keep going, that's what she had to do. She was doing so well near then end, so he ditched the planned choreography and told her to keep going. So she did. Brilliant.

Katie and Anton could win. Yes, his Ballroom is stronger than his Latin, but as long as he doesn't have a Latin disaster, most of the viewing public won't notice. His popularity teamed with her ability could easily get them to the final.

Yes, I was amazed that the extended spins were unplanned. Fab!

I agree that they stand a chance of winning - although I suspect Jay and Aliona will.

And yes, I don't think most of the viewing public know or care about the Latin 'weakness' as long as the dance is entertaining. And their ballroom is beautiful.
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Old 20-10-2015, 15:01
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On a point of fact that I never tire of bringing up, for someone's whose Latin is supposedly such a liability on twenty levels that it hampers his partner's every movement, Anton rarely actually gets eliminated on a latin dance. Of the 12 series he's done, he's gone out :

Twice with a Latin dance alone (Nancy, Kate)
Three times with one latin/one ballroom in a two dance week (Lesley, Patsy, Laila)
Seven times with a Ballroom dance alone (Esther, Jan, Gillian, Widgy, Jerry, Fiona, Judy)

In fact he's never been eliminated with a party latin - Nancy was a rumba and Kate a paso doble. I agree that sometimes it's an utter state to watch, but it doesn't seem to harm his vote.
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Old 20-10-2015, 19:22
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On a point of fact that I never tire of bringing up, for someone's whose Latin is supposedly such a liability on twenty levels that it hampers his partner's every movement, Anton rarely actually gets eliminated on a latin dance. Of the 12 series he's done, he's gone out :

Twice with a Latin dance alone (Nancy, Kate)
Three times with one latin/one ballroom in a two dance week (Lesley, Patsy, Laila)
Seven times with a Ballroom dance alone (Esther, Jan, Gillian, Widgy, Jerry, Fiona, Judy)

In fact he's never been eliminated with a party latin - Nancy was a rumba and Kate a paso doble. I agree that sometimes it's an utter state to watch, but it doesn't seem to harm his vote.
I am guessing that several of those were quite early in the competition? It is going to be more difficult with a poor latin against one of the better dancers later in the competition.
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Old 21-10-2015, 01:50
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OK, I am queuing up to see Anton and Katie's Argentine Tango! Unmissable.
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Old 21-10-2015, 04:21
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Yes, I was amazed that the extended spins were unplanned. Fab!

I agree that they stand a chance of winning - although I suspect Jay and Aliona will.

And yes, I don't think most of the viewing public know or care about the Latin 'weakness' as long as the dance is entertaining. And their ballroom is beautiful.
Beautiful indeed.
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Old 21-10-2015, 07:15
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I keep reading this thread title as Congratulations Anton the third. The first model is annoying enough. (Sorry Anton fans, last Saturday's dance was lovely).
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Old 21-10-2015, 11:21
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Not his biggest fan but I am so pleased for him to be at the top of the Leaderboard for once !!! Has that EVER happened ?

So chuffed for him .

Could he make his first Finale ?
I know this has already been said but just to say again Anton has topped the leader board before 3 times. With Lesley Garrett, with Patsy Palmer and with Laila Rouass. For some reason he seems to have forgotten these times.

Anton is so good at ballroom but unfortunately his let down is his Latin. If he can overcome this I think he will make the final.
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Old 21-10-2015, 17:47
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I know this has already been said but just to say again Anton has topped the leader board before 3 times. With Lesley Garrett, with Patsy Palmer and with Laila Rouass. For some reason he seems to have forgotten these times.

Anton is so good at ballroom but unfortunately his let down is his Latin. If he can overcome this I think he will make the final.

I didn't know that Susan, thank you.
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Old 21-10-2015, 22:05
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Hopefully, the couple of seconds on It Takes Two was deceptive. If not, they are in big trouble. It actually looked worse than the cha cha training.
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Old 21-10-2015, 23:00
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Hopefully, the couple of seconds on It Takes Two was deceptive. If not, they are in big trouble. It actually looked worse than the cha cha training.
Yeah ...it didn't look good. Well to be fair most couples didn't look good except Jay. We also have to keep in mind that it was Monday's rehearsals.
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Old 22-10-2015, 16:26
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On ITT Anton revealed they were freestyling at the end of their VW. He'd spoken to Dave Arch about speeding up the music near the end, but all he told Katie was if he told her to keep going, that's what she had to do. She was doing so well near then end, so he ditched the planned choreography and told her to keep going. So she did. Brilliant.

Katie and Anton could win. Yes, his Ballroom is stronger than his Latin, but as long as he doesn't have a Latin disaster, most of the viewing public won't notice. His popularity teamed with her ability could easily get them to the final.
I think we mustn't forget that Katie did attend a dance school so she has had some training. Not sure how much as I know nothing about dance training so I expect just basic. The papers say RAD exam results grade IV honours. I am sure someone will enlighten us on that one. Of course she could have gone on to do more as well after that.

Great freestyling though, well done.
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Old 22-10-2015, 17:03
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I think we mustn't forget that Katie did attend a dance school so she has had some training. Not sure how much as I know nothing about dance training so I expect just basic. The papers say RAD exam results grade IV honours. I am sure someone will enlighten us on that one. Of course she could have gone on to do more as well after that.
Grave IV in RAD is ballet training for ages 10 and over (but not over 15 I think). Not sure about the "honours" bit, but I'd imagine it just means what you'd think it would, "very good". This fits with Katie's early statement that she did enough ballet when younger to know "good toes from bad toes", but not too much else (apart from the flexibility and poise that never really goes, as we've seen).
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Old 24-10-2015, 21:33
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Oh dear, it's a salsa. A potential darnce disarster. They have gone from 20 points to 33 and it will be no surprise if it's close to the lower figure again. Fingers crossed they can keep out of the dance off but if they have pretensions about doing really well (not beating Jay but making the final) they have to be looking at more consistent marks and that means 28+ for the latin.
How is it that a completely untrained eye can see all the warning signs but Anton remains oblivious?

Imagine if Katie and Jamilia ended up in a dance-off the judges would have no option but to send Jamilia through.
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