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Old 18-10-2015, 12:39
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It was her best dance and it suited her personality and Craig was right about the Josephine Baker reference but I don't think it was undermarked.
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Old 18-10-2015, 13:04
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I thought it was a good attempt by Jamelia and prob should have got decent marks to reflect that. Overmarked, well, lots of charleston can be, it's an easy dance for the judges to overscore (though I don't necessarily think they did this time). The ballroom dances and latin dances I think generally speaking should be harder to score well in, so I prob on this occasion would have put jamelia top, but tbh it matters little to me which beat the other.
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Old 18-10-2015, 13:44
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For me Jamelia's Charleston was the dance of the night. She looked amazing, and it suited her down to a tee. With Katie, it was obvious that after her Cha-Cha-Cha she was going to 'redeem' herself with a good Ballroom routine but with Jamelia it was a genuine surprise that she was so good.
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Old 18-10-2015, 13:49
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Did Tristan choreograph it or did they bring in the Charleston experts?
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Old 18-10-2015, 13:50
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Did Tristan choreograph it or did they bring in the Charleston experts?
I'm inclined to say it was probably the latter.
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Old 18-10-2015, 13:51
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Did Tristan choreograph it or did they bring in the Charleston experts?
I believe Gleb's the only person to have choreographed their own Charleston this series, although I may be wrong (I'm sure that'll all change when Katie does hers... ahem...)
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Old 18-10-2015, 13:52
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Did Tristan choreograph it or did they bring in the Charleston experts?
I strongly suspect there was outside support. Tristan would not have known most of those steps, nor be able to put that routine together.

Choreography is not his strong point. His salsa routine was very poor.
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Old 18-10-2015, 14:37
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Hi like jameila but I thought her Charleston was very messy. Don't think it was good at all. She's full of energy which means she over commits to moves which looks messy. She has improved but she was over marked
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Old 18-10-2015, 14:42
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Hi like jameila but I thought her Charleston was very messy. Don't think it was good at all. She's full of energy which means she over commits to moves which looks messy. She has improved but she was over marked
I kind of agree that it looked messy in places but that sort of was part of the appeal , also wearing flat shoes probably contributed to some of the messiness .
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Old 18-10-2015, 14:45
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Some of her moves were really well done and I was impressed by her dance..
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Old 18-10-2015, 14:54
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It was very good for her because her other dances have been so awful. That's why the judges were so effusive , congratulating her on getting beyond her need to look great/cool . It was a rather good charleston with some cracking moves and it totally helped that this week she removed the stick from her bum and just let loose having fun and pulling faces rather than her usual irritating fixed diva grin .
I'm not a fan of hers at all , but she most definitely upped her game this week and deserves praise for that . If she keeps it up she's in with a great chance of winning .
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Old 18-10-2015, 15:03
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I feel that last night she FINALLY turned up to Strictly come Dancing and showed 75% of the promise she showed in the launch show
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Old 18-10-2015, 15:12
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I agree, Jamelia's dance was my favorite of the night followed by Katie & Anton's, actually they were all enjoyable dances bar Kirsty's, worst of the night for me
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Old 18-10-2015, 15:32
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Jamelia's Charleston was good but, as with all her dances, for me anyway, she "sits" on her legs which makes them look too bent all the time and, while that suits this particular dance, it still means she's not getting the extension from the hips down through the leg which makes it look clean.
Her swivel action, on the other hand, was amonst the best I've seen on the show and she definitely had a Josephine Baker style to sections of the dance which were completely recognisable. If she'd straighten her knees in between thebending, even in a Charleston, her central core would look like it was being pulled through the steps even more and stop her looking so heavy on the dance floor as she's not actually.
Having just rewatched it, I see what you mean. If you ask me, that's what you get earning a living working on panel shows.

I thoroughly enjoyed her dance last night - fantastic energy levels, and she really does have a stonking pair of legs!

I'd love to see her do well. I know she can be a right gobby pillock at times, but there really is something rather sweet and vulnerable about her. I imagine she might have problems with focus - I'll bet Tristan has his work cut out! I'm sure a lot of her uncontrolled giggling is down to nerves and lack of self confidence.

Anyhoo, anyone brave enough to be taken apart by the likes of Sean Lock & Jimmy Carr is OK by me, so I wish her well.
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Old 18-10-2015, 15:50
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I strongly suspect there was outside support. Tristan would not have known most of those steps, nor be able to put that routine together.

Choreography is not his strong point. His salsa routine was very poor.
They bring in outside choreographers to help with salsa too, and I think the names of the helpers Jamelia and Tristan had for salsa were Jenny Thomas and Scott Cupit (or maybe Ryan Francois or Kylie Cruikshanks - they're staff choreographers too I think). Someone posted that they said who they were working with on Facebook - but I didn't see the FB post myself but read a forum member's post who had seen the FB stuff.

Apparently, they get help with all the non-basic dances and even with some of the ones you'd expect them to do -- last series, Brendan specifically thanked a choreographer for helping him with his Viennese Waltz. (or maybe it was another series - I have a few of them on dvd and I get them mixed up) But the pros don't do all their own choreography and in fact, I'm pretty sure they can get help whenever they want - or when the show decides they should get help. (why Anton didn't get help with the cha cha is beyond me -- but my guess is they didn't want it to be good because it was part of the bad-dance-then-redemption storyline for those two weeks - bad cha cha followed by great VW.)
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Old 18-10-2015, 16:50
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It was very good for her because her other dances have been so awful. That's why the judges were so effusive , congratulating her on getting beyond her need to look great/cool . It was a rather good charleston with some cracking moves and it totally helped that this week she removed the stick from her bum and just let loose having fun and pulling faces rather than her usual irritating fixed diva grin .
I'm not a fan of hers at all , but she most definitely upped her game this week and deserves praise for that . If she keeps it up she's in with a great chance of winning .
That goes a bit far

Think that having Blackpool as a goal will be hard enough to achieve.

As you said, for her it was a good dance (compared to her other dances). She wasn't helped with Helen coming after her with those lifts, which to me instantly made her dance a bit more average (on the whole, taken out of her context).
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Old 18-10-2015, 17:31
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I loved Tristan and jamelias dance last night best dance of the night for me, the reason being that she improved so much from the previous three weeks, Tristan and her must have worked so hard on that routine it was great, she's had a lot of negative comments so it was good to hear that she's improving, hope she keeps it going now.
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Old 18-10-2015, 19:22
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Just my opinion, but I thought her swivel was excellent. I wasn't overly keen on the routine as a whole but that's probably because I don't find jamellia or Trista to be very dynamic. Again, just my opinion, but she has a tendency to slip into "disco" mode in her latin dances and she loses tension in her body.
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Old 18-10-2015, 19:31
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I liked that it was a different Charleston to usual SCD, but still very much in spirit
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Old 18-10-2015, 20:06
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it annoys me they made her wait for the results until the second half her name shouldve been the first called out tonight
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Old 18-10-2015, 20:10
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It was definitely Jamelia's best dance and that wig really suited her.

Not to take anything away from her dancing but it is so much easier to dance in flat shoes. I am speaking from experience and also noticed someone else the other week (oh dear can't remember who it was) also looked really comfortable in flat shoes.
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Old 18-10-2015, 21:42
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it annoys me they made her wait for the results until the second half her name shouldve been the first called out tonight
Why
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Old 19-10-2015, 00:00
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It was definitely Jamelia's best dance and that wig really suited her.

Not to take anything away from her dancing but it is so much easier to dance in flat shoes. I am speaking from experience and also noticed someone else the other week (oh dear can't remember who it was) also looked really comfortable in flat shoes.
Anita? Don't know if she looked comfortable but she was definitely in flat shoes.
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Old 19-10-2015, 00:50
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I enjoyed it. I just wish people would stop giving her such a hard time. After all it is only the early stages and she's learning. She was in sync with her partner really well and the dance worked.
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Old 19-10-2015, 01:24
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Well done Jamelia and Tristan for a very enjoyable Charleston . They should have got a standing ovation . It was much better then a lot that did .

The guy organising the standing ovations must have nodded off or maybe they don't fit in with the chosen few
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