DS Forums

 
 

Helen isn't so nice then.


Closed Thread
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 31-10-2015, 07:21
Reserved
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 7,317
I haven't read anything in the papers but there is something about her I don't like!

It probably goes back to the show when they got to find out who their partners were, and when she found out hers she said "oh I am really pleased I thought I would get Anton"!!!!

I just thought that was really rude and disrespectful.
I'm not really a fan of Helen (her dances, I mean, this isn't Big Brother; I don't care for any of their personalities), found her routines to be quite forgettable bar last week, but I didn't take her launch show comment like you're suggesting at all.

The wording is unfortunate, but it sounds a lot worse on paper than it was on the show.

Her comment was harmless; she simply shared her prediction with us, it was more of a "I thought I was going to get Anton, but Aljaz is just as good!" to me, rather than the context you thought, and just by her tone, I think I'm closer to the truth, especially since you don't like her so of course will twist her words.

The fact that nearly all of the cast have come out and defended her tells me all I need to know. Like I said, I'm not particularly a fan (her Quickstep did make me sit up and take notice of her, finally), but I find the claims of her being some kind of bitchy diva hard to believe.

Craig even said that she's just quiet backstage and doesn't really join in the after show fun. Fair enough. Not everyone is the life and soul of the party, some prefer to soak in the atmosphere instead. She seems a bit unsure of herself, to me... a bit insecure. People often mistake quiet for some sort of arrogance, when it's often quite the opposite.
Reserved is offline  
Please sign in or register to remove this advertisement.
Old 31-10-2015, 07:43
Jennifer_F
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 3,520
I'm not really a fan of Helen (her dances, I mean, this isn't Big Brother; I don't care for any of their personalities), found her routines to be quite forgettable bar last week, but I didn't take her launch show comment like you're suggesting at all.

The wording is unfortunate, but it sounds a lot worse on paper than it was on the show.

Her comment was harmless; she simply shared her prediction with us, it was more of a "I thought I was going to get Anton, but Aljaz is just as good!" to me, rather than the context you thought, and just by her tone, I think I'm closer to the truth, especially since you don't like her so of course will twist her words.

The fact that nearly all of the cast have come out and defended her tells me all I need to know. Like I said, I'm not particularly a fan (her Quickstep did make me sit up and take notice of her, finally), but I find the claims of her being some kind of bitchy diva hard to believe.

Craig even said that she's just quiet backstage and doesn't really join in the after show fun. Fair enough. Not everyone is the life and soul of the party, some prefer to soak in the atmosphere instead. She seems a bit unsure of herself, to me... a bit insecure. People often mistake quiet for some sort of arrogance, when it's often quite the opposite.
I fully agree with all the points you are making, and this is how I see it too, As you say, the wording was unfortunate and had she had time to think about it beforehand, I'm sure she would have said it in a different way .I don't think it was meant the way it appeared.
Jennifer_F is offline  
Old 31-10-2015, 08:23
ravensborough
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 5,066
People seem to forget that Helen is an actress - she's more used to playing a role and embodying a character than being herself. She comes across as being quite reserved which people automatically mistake for being arrogant and conceited.
ravensborough is offline  
Old 31-10-2015, 08:41
j4Rose
Guest
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 5,259
I'm not really a fan of Helen (her dances, I mean, this isn't Big Brother; I don't care for any of their personalities), found her routines to be quite forgettable bar last week, but I didn't take her launch show comment like you're suggesting at all.

The wording is unfortunate, but it sounds a lot worse on paper than it was on the show.

Her comment was harmless; she simply shared her prediction with us, it was more of a "I thought I was going to get Anton, but Aljaz is just as good!" to me, rather than the context you thought, and just by her tone, I think I'm closer to the truth, especially since you don't like her so of course will twist her words.

The fact that nearly all of the cast have come out and defended her tells me all I need to know. Like I said, I'm not particularly a fan (her Quickstep did make me sit up and take notice of her, finally), but I find the claims of her being some kind of bitchy diva hard to believe.

Craig even said that she's just quiet backstage and doesn't really join in the after show fun. Fair enough. Not everyone is the life and soul of the party, some prefer to soak in the atmosphere instead. She seems a bit unsure of herself, to me... a bit insecure. People often mistake quiet for some sort of arrogance, when it's often quite the opposite.
I'm sure she didn't mean it like that. Let's be honest though, most people would be disappointed to get Anton

Helen is just reserved; there's nothing wrong with that, but it does make it harder to relate to her. She definitely doesn't come across as being cold to me though.
j4Rose is offline  
Old 31-10-2015, 08:44
j4Rose
Guest
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 5,259
Wow, claims that someone is bitchy (by a worthless toerag of a redtop that I wouldn't use to line a budgie's birdcage)..

Because it's not like anyone on here ever indulges in that kind of behaviour, is it? ... oh, wait ....
Very true - human nature I guess
j4Rose is offline  
Old 31-10-2015, 08:45
Jennifer_F
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 3,520
Very true - human nature I guess
All too common on this forum
Jennifer_F is offline  
Old 31-10-2015, 08:47
Bedlam_maid
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Milton Keynes
Posts: 3,078
People seem to forget that Helen is an actress - she's more used to playing a role and embodying a character than being herself. She comes across as being quite reserved which people automatically mistake for being arrogant and conceited.
I don't understand that argument at all. Yes, she may spend 10% of her time acting but the other 90% she is Helen the person (I have plucked those figures completely out of the air).

For clarity, I like what I see of Helen.
Bedlam_maid is offline  
Old 31-10-2015, 08:48
j4Rose
Guest
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 5,259
All too common on this forum
It is funny how people on here can be really vicious, but think that's OK. Then a celebrity says one word or looks at someone in the wrong way and they are labelled for eternity.
j4Rose is offline  
Old 31-10-2015, 09:25
lundavra
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 25,462
I have to say I agree with you. Something about her I don't like and I thought the Anton remark was very rude.
Everyone jokes about Anton, the contestants had probably been having a laugh about who would get him offstage.
lundavra is offline  
Old 31-10-2015, 09:31
perdiedumpling
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 6,394
I'm not really a fan of Helen (her dances, I mean, this isn't Big Brother; I don't care for any of their personalities), found her routines to be quite forgettable bar last week, but I didn't take her launch show comment like you're suggesting at all.

The wording is unfortunate, but it sounds a lot worse on paper than it was on the show.

Her comment was harmless; she simply shared her prediction with us, it was more of a "I thought I was going to get Anton, but Aljaz is just as good!" to me, rather than the context you thought, and just by her tone, I think I'm closer to the truth, especially since you don't like her so of course will twist her words.

The fact that nearly all of the cast have come out and defended her tells me all I need to know. Like I said, I'm not particularly a fan (her Quickstep did make me sit up and take notice of her, finally), but I find the claims of her being some kind of bitchy diva hard to believe.

Craig even said that she's just quiet backstage and doesn't really join in the after show fun. Fair enough. Not everyone is the life and soul of the party, some prefer to soak in the atmosphere instead. She seems a bit unsure of herself, to me... a bit insecure. People often mistake quiet for some sort of arrogance, when it's often quite the opposite.
When I heard about her remark about Anton, I thought it sounded bitchy. When I actually saw the clip, it seemed fairly clear that she thought she would have Anton because they'd been paired together for the opening group routine and they had got on well. We've heard similar before (though don't ask me who!) - "Oh, I was sure I was getting so-and-so", and nothing was made of it. Only with the presumed relief that she didn't get Anton was this turned into a big deal.
perdiedumpling is offline  
Old 31-10-2015, 10:01
JoJoJay
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 513
Not interested in tabloid crap .Yes , Helen seems to be aloof , but I suspect that underneath that ice maiden facade there is a little party animal . Not everyone is like Jamelia or Jeremy , always smiling or giggling , and not everyone is as genuinely funny and verbose as Daniel and Ainsley .
Someone said in another thread that her marriage very recently broke up , so maybe she doesn't feel like being miss congeniality just at this point in time and prefers to focus on the dance .
She's like a little dolly ballerina with those lovely long legs and huge eyes, very pretty woman .
Every time I see her I think she's like a little china doll 😃
JoJoJay is offline  
Old 31-10-2015, 10:20
Jennifer_F
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 3,520
Every time I see her I think she's like a little china doll 😃
I thinks she's quite lovely and thoroughly enjoying her time on the show.
Jennifer_F is offline  
Old 31-10-2015, 10:46
differentdrum
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 571
These sorts of threads are the reason why people should just vote on the dancing. You can make a judgement on the dancing but nobody should be dissecting their characters if you don't actually know them. Any one of them can put on a positive show (and probably do) for the camera.
differentdrum is offline  
Old 31-10-2015, 11:00
Jennifer_F
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 3,520
These sorts of threads are the reason why people should just vote on the dancing. You can make a judgement on the dancing but nobody should be dissecting their characters if you don't actually know them. Any one of them can put on a positive show (and probably do) for the camera.
Quite. And its for that very reason I personally am not interested in the personalities at all , just the dancing. I find it incredible that some " emotionally invest" in the celebritys - their words not mine.
Jennifer_F is offline  
Old 31-10-2015, 11:02
Ellie1967
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 1,727
I don't really know how you can separate personality from dancing - surely it is someone's personality that makes a dance more than just walking through a sequence of steps. If everyone was judged solely on their dancing, you might as well just send about 10 of them home in week one.
Ellie1967 is offline  
Old 31-10-2015, 11:09
Jennifer_F
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 3,520
I don't really know how you can separate personality from dancing - surely it is someone's personality that makes a dance more than just walking through a sequence of steps. If everyone was judged solely on their dancing, you might as well just send about 10 of them home in week one.
"personality" on the dance floor is something quite different.
Jennifer_F is offline  
Old 31-10-2015, 11:11
Agent Krycek
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Stalking David and Neal
Posts: 38,045
I thinks she's quite lovely and thoroughly enjoying her time on the show.
I really like her, although her Latin makes me nervous, loved her description of getting very British about it . Beautiful woman as well.
Agent Krycek is offline  
Old 31-10-2015, 11:18
MACTOWIN
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Broughty Ferry
Posts: 30,532
Another Saturday and another chance for some bile to be thrown at Helen for no reason but at least it is consistent bile.
MACTOWIN is offline  
Old 31-10-2015, 11:21
jtnorth
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,491
Shame to this thread resurface. I think Helen seems a lovely person.
jtnorth is offline  
Old 31-10-2015, 11:43
Vientre
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 921
I dont dislike her at all, shes good with the potential to improve more and very attractive. On ITT last night she seemed to have a somewhat rather bemused expression on her face when the camera panned onto her that struck me as a bit odd.
Vientre is offline  
Old 31-10-2015, 13:27
Servalan
Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 7,472
There's about as much truth in this 'story' as in any other behind the scenes 'drama' we've had previously.

The main thing to bear in mind is that the press are largely anti-BBC and also broadly in Simon Cowell's favour (because he works them relentlessly with endless 'stories'). But TXF is not having the roaring success that Cowell predicted, and ITV is rattled that the person they've invested hundreds of millions in to hold up their channel is no longer delivering the goods in the way he used to.

So I'd fully expect these 'stories' to have no SCD source and instead to have come from ITV. The standard of journalism in the press is at an all time low - most 'journalists' do not bother investigating anything, nor do they substantiate what they write about.

Next …?
Servalan is offline  
Old 31-10-2015, 13:37
Kat 68
Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 423
Shyness is often mistaken for aloofness.
Kat 68 is offline  
Old 31-10-2015, 13:38
Ann_Dancer
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: London
Posts: 1,663
I don't really know how you can separate personality from dancing - surely it is someone's personality that makes a dance more than just walking through a sequence of steps. If everyone was judged solely on their dancing, you might as well just send about 10 of them home in week one.
"personality" on the dance floor is something quite different.
I have to agree with Jennifer here. They are totally separate. There have been some great dancers, outside of Strictly, who have not had the most attractive of personalities off the dance floor, but on it......wow!

On Strictly it is different in that there is an element of voting for who engages you as a personality. However, I don't know Helen (or any of the other celebs) anywhere near well enough to make a judgment as to whether they are 'nice'.
Ann_Dancer is offline  
Old 31-10-2015, 14:02
Ellie1967
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 1,727
I have to agree with Jennifer here. They are totally separate. There have been some great dancers, outside of Strictly, who have not had the most attractive of personalities off the dance floor, but on it......wow!

On Strictly it is different in that there is an element of voting for who engages you as a personality. However, I don't know Helen (or any of the other celebs) anywhere near well enough to make a judgment as to whether they are 'nice'.
I understand what you're saying, but I can't fully divorce off-floor personality from on-floor personality, because in many ways one dictates the other and affects partner chemistry etc. I don't judge anyone's personality in 'real-life' terms, because as you say I don't know any of them, but I can't help letting how someone comes across in the show affect how I view their dancing, even if only subconsciously. I think its great if you can though - maybe being more of a dance expert helps to separate the two .
Ellie1967 is offline  
Old 31-10-2015, 14:18
daziechain
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Running up that hill
Posts: 8,257
Quite. And its for that very reason I personally am not interested in the personalities at all , just the dancing. I find it incredible that some " emotionally invest" in the celebritys - their words not mine.
I find it incredible that people switch off from what is a basic human instinct.

For the record I like Helen and her dancing, she hasn't wowed me yet though. I guess I expect her to be good so when she is it doesn't surprise me.
She's very like Pixie .. but Pixie had more wow dances for me. Still early though.
daziechain is offline  
 
Closed Thread




 
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:36.